LA Protests

[PurpleTree]

9 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

None of the people under those leaders really cared about free speech

Protests don't keep the govt in check 

People who criticise the leadership in Iran and Saudi often just vanish without out a trace. Maybe end up being tortured or worse. Similar in China and Russia. While in Western Europe you can easily criticise the govt. Which is better and which is more violent?

Edited Friday at 09:57 AM by PurpleTree

[Twentyfirst]

2 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

People who criticise the leadership in Iran and Saudi often just vanish without out a trace. Maybe end up being tortured or worse. Similar in China and Russia. While in Western Europe you can easily criticise the govt. Which is better and which is more violent?

Western Europe that has genocide and dropping bombs down to a science lmao

This is what I am talking about with free speech. If you offer a westerner free speech they throw all logic out the window. It's like your in the middle of a mental asylum but they give you a piece of candy so you forget all about the mental asylum

Free speech isn't infallible in these countries either cancel culture is getting worse not better

Edited Friday at 12:46 PM by Twentyfirst

[BlueOak]

20 hours ago, hoodrow trillson said:

Honestly, I really don’t give a fuck if there are people living in America illegally 

That's how I feel. If I step into my own bias, I couldn't care less.

What I do care about is social order, crime and a functioning economy far more than where someone is from. Because these things all impact my life.

If they are contributing to society, not criminals and contributing to the economy then i'd open the borders as far as they can be, while maintaining the rule of law and social cohesion. This is why 'contributing to society is first on that list', because they'd be actively keeping it stable and prosperous.

People who should not be let into the country, are those who have no wish to join the society as it currently stands, don't want to work or have sufficient criminal records to warrant concern i.e more than a traffic or minor offense. So the very first question to any immigrant should be something like this for my country:

What do you love about the UK
What are you going to do to contribute to keeping it that way.

^That is healthy nationalism, not pulling people off farms then whining when you have no farm workers and asking for bailouts, and watching food prices rise. That's just plain idiocy. As is barging into elementary school graduations, the people responsible need jail time for that, from the person who organised it through to the goons executing it.

Edited Friday at 01:21 PM by BlueOak

[Nemra]

31 minutes ago, BlueOak said:

That's how I feel. If I step into my own bias, I couldn't care less.

I don't care about either, but people around me love the feeling of nationalism that comes with lots of beliefs about what their nation is to them.

Edited Friday at 01:51 PM by Nemra

[BlueOak]

1 minute ago, Nemra said:

I don't care about either, but people around me love the feeling of nationalism that comes with lots of beliefs about what their nation is to them.

You'd care if the country fell into instability, you were personally robbed or couldn't afford the basics.

[BlueOak]

Life in prison for these guys, no parole. 

[Nemra]

1 minute ago, BlueOak said:

You'd care if the country fell into instability, you were personally robbed or couldn't afford the basics.

I don't think you understood what I said.

I tried to say that people are so emotional about their nation that they have beliefs about what the nation means to them. Which means that even if people are being blinded by themselves, their emotions should also be considered because they will think you are being against the nation they love.

I didn't say having a nation is bad.

[BlueOak]

7 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I don't think you understood what I said.

I tried to say that people are so emotional about their nation that they have beliefs about what the nation means to them. Which means that even if people are being blinded by themselves, their emotions should also be considered because they will think you are being against the nation they love.

I didn't say having a nation is bad.

Apologies I didn't understand because you quoted my comment about crime etc.

Yes that's very true of anyone acting on an identity too strongly.

[Nemra]

7 minutes ago, BlueOak said:

Apologies I didn't understand because you quoted my comment about crime etc.

I apologize as well. I edited it.

I'm annoyed by people's beliefs about and emotional attachments to their nation, but as a leader I would not be able to ignore it.

Edited Friday at 01:57 PM by Nemra

[Jodistrict]

This is an interesting analysis. 

 

 

[Breathe]

22 hours ago, zazen said:

 

 

@zazen I'm glad you see it. When the tariffs eliminate jobs and when AI replaces the remaining jobs, what's next? Well, people will be poor. What's next? Well, people will resort to crime to survive. Then what? Well, they will be imprisoned. And guess what? It will be good for business. Private prisons get paid, they also get free labor.

 

FUCK YEAH AMERICA, THE AMERICAN DREAM. ANYONE CAN MAKE IT. EVEN PRISON CAMP CEOS.

[Breathe]

5 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

This is an interesting analysis. 

 

 

First thing that's given me any hope in a while