Socialist may defeat Andrew Cuomo in New York City Mayoral Democratic Primary

[Wilhelm44]

6 hours ago, Hardkill said:

These are valid questions. 

Some of them are pilot programs that Zohran is willing to try out only in certain parts of NYC.

If say the idea of having city run grocery stores doesn't end up working at all then he will cancel it. If it works then he will continue that and gradually expand it. That being said he doesn't want to make ALL grocery stores in NYC be run by the city.

FDR had a very similar mindset during the Great Depression, whereby he was very open to trying any bold new approaches even if they were socialistic.

Aha, thank you, I hear you.

It's a bit concerning though seeing him reposting something with the hashtag : communism

[Wilhelm44]

12 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

 

This last post seems to imply that he also has some affinity for communism ?

These are questions that will need to be addressed, like it or not.

[Hardkill]

21 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

This last post seems to imply that he also has some affinity for communism ?

These are questions that will need to be addressed, like it or not.

Well, it is closer to the old-style socialism/communism, but still not nearly close it. 

Democratic Socialism still allows for more freedoms and voting rights compared to original socialism/communist states. It emphasizes a democratic political framework where people have the right to vote and participate in decision-making processes. While it advocates for public or collective control of key industries and services, it maintains a multi-party democracy, with free and fair elections, civil liberties, and individual freedoms. The goal is to shift economic power toward the people through democratic governance, which means that citizens still have a say in how the country is run.

Historically, communist states like the Soviet Union, Maoist China, and others have been authoritarian, with single-party rule and no real political freedoms. These states would frequently suppress opposition, restrict freedoms of speech, assembly, and press, and really curtail individual rights to maintain control over the economy and society. The political system in these states was highly centralized, with leaders exercising near total control over political and economic life, and elections, if they existed, were often a mere formality with no real democratic choice.

Edited June 30 by Hardkill

[Wilhelm44]

2 hours ago, Hardkill said:

Well, it is closer to the old-style socialism/communism, but still not nearly close it. 

Democratic Socialism still allows for more freedoms and voting rights compared to original socialism/communist states. It emphasizes a democratic political framework where people have the right to vote and participate in decision-making processes. While it advocates for public or collective control of key industries and services, it maintains a multi-party democracy, with free and fair elections, civil liberties, and individual freedoms. The goal is to shift economic power toward the people through democratic governance, which means that citizens still have a say in how the country is run.

Historically, communist states like the Soviet Union, Maoist China, and others have been authoritarian, with single-party rule and no real political freedoms. These states would frequently suppress opposition, restrict freedoms of speech, assembly, and press, and really curtail individual rights to maintain control over the economy and society. The political system in these states was highly centralized, with leaders exercising near total control over political and economic life, and elections, if they existed, were often a mere formality with no real democratic choice.

I hear you, I still feel it's foolish to have any kind of communism hashtags on his wall, might be something that will come to haunt him. 

 

[Wilhelm44]

Plans to fund it all by taxing the top 1% of New Yorkers (those who make a million or more per year) only 2% more.

Crazy to think how little it actually takes to make things better.

[Hardkill]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I hear you, I still feel it's foolish to have any kind of communism hashtags on his wall, might be something that will come to haunt him. 

 

Yeah, that is certainly a real concern. Anything with the label socialism/communism is usually a killer for any candidate in American politics. 

Then again, Bernie and AOC have become successful members of Congress, even though Sanders in 2016 and 2020 in great part because he calls himself a socialist.

We really have to see how this whole thing goes.

 

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Plans to fund it all by taxing the top 1% of New Yorkers (those who make a million or more per year) only 2% more.

Crazy to think how little it actually takes to make things better.

Exactly! It really doesn't take that much more of a tax increase for the government and the people to get the funding they desperately need.

 

Edited June 30 by Hardkill

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Mamdani openly calling for seizing the means of production.

https://www.reddit.com/r/InformedTankie/comments/1lnzxeo/zohran_please_seize_the_means_of_production/

https://x.com/Osint613/status/1939657700553486380

Edited July 1 by Husseinisdoingfine

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Communist Party of India (Marxist) endorses Zohran.

https://x.com/cpimspeak/status/1937813024028479705

Edited June 30 by Husseinisdoingfine

[PurpleTree]

14 hours ago, Hardkill said:

Exactly! It really doesn't take that much more of a tax increase for the government and the people to get the funding they desperately need.

 

But the ultra rich are so greedy that they probably just leave to Texas or Dubai when the taxes get higher.

[Wilhelm44]

Ideally we want some kind of balance between socialism and capitalism. Going too far in either direction is the problem.

Any talks of communism are silly really.

[Wilhelm44]

 

[Raze]

[carterfelder]

How do y'all feel about this?

"Shift the tax burden from overtaxed homeowners in the outer boroughs to more expensive homes in richer and whiter neighborhoods:

The property tax system is unbalanced because assessment levels are artificially capped, so homeowners inexpensive neighborhoods pay less than their fair share. The Mayor can fix this by pushing class assessment percentages down for everyone and adjusting rates up, effectively lowering tax payments for homeowners in neighborhoods like Jamaica and Brownsville while raising the amount paid in the most expensive Brooklyn brownstones."

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iGn9ws9Ds0x_3kkB1tdM2pxLlbkPtT0k/view

https://www.zohranfornyc.com/platform

Edited July 1 by carterfelder

[Hardkill]

6 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Ideally we want some kind of balance between socialism and capitalism. Going too far in either direction is the problem.

Any talks of communism are silly really.

That's very true. A mixed economy is the best way a society can function and thrive. It. also makes sure that neither the government nor big businesses become too powerful by having the public sector and private sector check and balance each other.

However, I think more things need to be nationalized including:

• More of the healthcare industry being owned by the government.
• Having a parallel public option within the grocery system and publicly supported grocery stores in food deserts.
• Fully funded, fare-free public transit that’s reliable, safe, and green.
• More social housing or publicly owned housing, alongside some rent control and tenant protections.
• End private prisons and have all incarceration handled by the public sector.
• Public funding for independent journalism or publicly-owned platforms free from algorithm-driven profit models.
• Public broadband networks, especially in underserved rural or poor urban areas.
• Public banks at city/state/federal levels and a public postal banking system.
• Public ownership of electric utilities, or publicly-owned renewable energy companies.

Ideally, this would more or less lead to:

• Universal single-payer insurance such as Medicare for All, but hospitals/doctors remain private or mixed
• Public utilities as options, public green energy investment, anti-monopoly reforms
• Public or postal banking coexisting with private banks
• Municipal broadband in underserved areas, with private ISPs still allowed
• Massive expansion of social/public housing, but private ownership remains
• More fare-free, publicly run mass transit, infrastructure investment
• Public grocery stores in food deserts alongside private stores
• Public drug manufacturing for essential meds only
• End private prisons, fully public control over incarceration (this is full control here

 

Edited July 1 by Hardkill

[Hardkill]

2 hours ago, Raze said:

He undoubtedly won the Democratic nomination in a landslide.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Zohran Mamdani: "We will slowly buy up the housing on the private market and convert properties into communes" 

 

[Wilhelm44]

 

[Wilhelm44]

 

[Wilhelm44]

If Mamdani gets in it will be a proper miracle of sorts.

Edited July 10 by Wilhelm44