The Democrats will lose in 2028 if they don't do enough of an overhaul of their party

[Hardkill]

 

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[Raze]

I highly doubt that, trump will be so unpopular by than even Kamala can beat the republican. 

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[Hardkill]

1 hour ago, Raze said:

I highly doubt that, trump will be so unpopular by than even Kamala can beat the republican. 

I often keep thinking about that, but the approval rating of the Democratic party is at such a historic low. What if the voters, including moderate and independent voters as well as progressive and Democratic voters just decide in 2028 to just stay home and not vote for either presidential candidate or either party?

I thought or was hoping that the party was currently making a good amount of progress on this matter, but clearly not. Also, the best messengers for the Democratic party have been AOC and Sanders. They may not be electable at the presidential level, but unlike most of the spineless Democrats out there who don't clearly state what they stand for, progressives like them don't play it too safe, aren't too afraid of being deemed as partisan, excel at moral clarity in messaging, and using strong, simple, and unifying rooted in economic populism.

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[Joshe]

4 hours ago, Raze said:

trump will be so unpopular by than even Kamala can beat the republican.

No matter how bad Trump does, it will not sway people toward Kamala. If they run Kamala again, they will lose. 

People don’t understand what happened in 2024. Through very effective propaganda and influencer marketing, Rs were able to bring many people over to their side, and for most who hopped on board, there was some degree of integrating right-wingism into their identities, which will not simply disappear with Trump. Think of all the apolitical UFC fans who now identify with the right and Trump. That doesn’t just go away easily.

Also, the winning strategy of identity integration, using influencers for memetic desire, and effective yet subtle psychological manipulation is now a tried and true strategy. Which means, the people with the money will implement it for as long as it works. In my estimation, that’s for decades to come.

It’s a whole new era. G-funk step to dis, I dare ya. Chords, strings, we brings, melodies, where rhythm is life, and life…. Is rhythm. 

[Leo Gura]

Way too early to worry about 2028. Relax and enjoy the non-election years. A lot of stuff will change orgamically by 2028 so it's useless to try to look that far ahead right now.

New Dem leaders will emerge. They always do.

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[Hardkill]

29 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Way too early to worry about 2028. Relax and enjoy the non-election years. A lot of stuff will change orgamically by 2028 so it's useless to try to look that far ahead right now.

New Dem leaders will emerge. They always do.

True, but Anand Giridharadas in that vid said that he's very disappointed with the fact that there are still too many Democrats in the party who have not really taken a deep, honest, and potentially uncomfortable self-examination on how the hell they lost to Trump and MAGA again in 2024 after almost losing in 2020 and lost in 2016.

He and the other commentators in that vid are saying that despite initial promises of introspection and reform following the 2024 electoral defeat has largely failed to engage in meaningful self-examination or implement substantive changes.

They talk about how the Democratic Party lost the 2024 election to Trump not just because of voter misinformation or Republican dirty tricks, but because of real internal failures—messaging flaws, elitism, strategic missteps, and a disconnect from working-class voters.

The Democrats really have not come up with a message that clearly defines who they are and what they stand for and MUST take a page from Bernie and AOC on how to message the people on economic populism.

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[Lyubov]

“A week in politics is a year in normal stuff.” This is what my dad used to say to me during the bush years. I think it’s sped up even more. A couple days is now a year. Same applies to tech now too.