The mirroir effect : Why you only speak to yourself.

[theleelajoker]

13 hours ago, Hojo said:

Its not a communication its a post and it is very smart. I will try to think of ways I am projecting. The long post was nessesary to get a point across.

With this logic You can say maga is actually the ones that want a 1 world government and they are projecting that on us. And trump is going to try to do it.

You can take any political figure and automatically see what they want to do based on their projections of other people.

The smart ones say nothing so you can't see their projections that are impossible to hide.

My POV:

1. Everything is communication, bc everything is an exchange of information. A post is communication because it contains information
2. Long posts are never neccesary to get a point across. Why should it? Don't see any reason why that should be so. It just shows you lack the clarity you have yourself to express properly your message + you loose the audience in the process. It happens to me often. I think and/ or write 1000 words and when I am finished I am sometimes lucky and I see that I actually only need 2 sentences..if at all. If you just want to express for yourself, don't post it in a forum, write letter to yourself at home
3.  Agree on saying nothing (or minimum of information) is often the best...not easy to do but the more I evolve, the more I see the value of that
4. Why you judge the post as "smart"? "I will try to think of ways I am projecting" --> projecting now? : )

Edited Saturday at 10:28 AM by theleelajoker

[Schizophonia]

19 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

My POV:

1. Everything is communication, bc everything is an exchange of information. A post is communication because it contains information
2. Long posts are never neccesary to get a point across. Why should it? Don't see any reason why that should be so. It just shows you lack the clarity you have yourself to express properly your message + you loose the audience in the process. It happens to me often. I think and/ or write 1000 words and when I am finished I am sometimes lucky and I see that I actually only need 2 sentences..if at all. If you just want to express for yourself, don't post it in a forum, write letter to yourself at home
3.  Agree on saying nothing (or minimum of information) is often the best...not easy to do but the more I evolve, the more I see the value of that
4. Why you judge the post as "smart"? "I will try to think of ways I am projecting" --> projecting now? : )

Sometimes i want to propose something simple, and sometime something in a more complexe or detailed form; Just like food lol. 

It's a matter of taste  🤔 I think this kind of detailed form has the advantage to offer more exemples, pov to cling to understand the proposed mecanisms for people who are too strangers to the topic discussed.

[Sugarcoat]

14 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Jokes asides it's actually easier that you think. 

At first, you don't really know what you're going to write, and then, with a little effort, the flow comes.
It requires a little work, but not that much.
It probably took me about one to two hours of consecutive work; and it could be more precise or simply clean.

That’s a lot of time

[Schizophonia]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

That’s a lot of time

Half an hour is little.
You have a good coffee and a few cigarettes (for me 👺), you take your time, you let yourself go with the flow of writing, you correct/change when you find a better way to say what you want to say in a certain place...
And two hours later, you can show off on Actualized with your new topic.

[The Crocodile]

55 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

My POV:

1. Everything is communication, bc everything is an exchange of information. A post is communication because it contains information
2. Long posts are never neccesary to get a point across. Why should it? Don't see any reason why that should be so. It just shows you lack the clarity you have yourself to express properly your message + you loose the audience in the process. It happens to me often. I think and/ or write 1000 words and when I am finished I am sometimes lucky and I see that I actually only need 2 sentences..if at all. If you just want to express for yourself, don't post it in a forum, write letter to yourself at home
3.  Agree on saying nothing (or minimum of information) is often the best...not easy to do but the more I evolve, the more I see the value of that
4. Why you judge the post as "smart"? "I will try to think of ways I am projecting" --> projecting now? : )

Could you sum this up in two words??  

Too long

[theleelajoker]

38 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

Could you sum this up in two words??  

Too long

F*** yourself.

There you go : )

Edited Saturday at 11:59 AM by theleelajoker

[Schizophonia]

5 hours ago, The Crocodile said:

(from a Carlos book):

I felt compelled at that point to present an argument. I sincerely contended that in European
thought we had accounted for what he called the nagual. I brought in the concept of the
Transcendental Ego, or the unobserved observer present in all our thoughts, perceptions and
feelings. I explained to don Juan that the individual could perceive or intuit himself, as a self,
through the Transcendental Ego, because this was the only thing capable of judgment, capable of
disclosing reality within the realm of its consciousness.
Don Juan was unruffled. He laughed.
"Disclosing reality," he said, mimicking me. "That's the tonal."
I argued that the tonal may be called the Empirical Ego found in one's passing stream of
consciousness or experience, while the Transcendental Ego was found behind that stream.
"Watching, I suppose," he said mockingly.
"That's right. Watching itself," I said.
"I hear you talking," he said. "But you're saying nothing. The nagual is not experience or
intuition or consciousness. Those terms and everything else you may care to say are only items on
the island of the tonal. The nagual, on the other hand, is only effect. The tonal begins at birth and
ends at death, but the nagual never ends. The nagual has no limit. I've said that the nagual is
where power hovers; that was only a way of alluding to it. By reasons of its effect, perhaps the
nagual can be best understood in terms of power. For instance, when you felt numb and couldn't
talk earlier today, I was actually soothing you; that is, my nagual was acting upon you."
"How was that possible, don Juan?"
"You won't believe this, but no one knows how. All I know is that I wanted your undivided
attention and then my nagual went to work on you. I know that much because I can witness its
effect, but I don't know how it works."

(Don Juan saying the nagual is unknowable in nature and not aligned with Eastern mysticism or European philosophy.)

Cool excerpt.

By Transcendental Ego it basically means higher self isn't it ?

[Schizophonia]

2 hours ago, The Crocodile said:

Could you sum this up in two words??  

Too long

lol.

 

[Princess Arabia]

5 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

@Princess Arabia @Hojo I trolled sugarcoat it’s handwritten.

Handwritten or not, those aren't your words and that's not your writings. Look at your comments VS the OP. Totally different style, grammar, spelling....everything. 

[Schizophonia]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Handwritten or not, those aren't your words and that's not your writings. Look at your comments VS the OP. Totally different style, grammar, spelling....everything. 

Those are my words, I don't know why you say that lol.
Maybe because I usually write directly in English, whereas here I wrote this first in French.
But not even that, actually.

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Those are my words, I don't know why you say that lol.
Maybe because I usually write directly in English, whereas here I wrote this first in French.
But not even that, actually.

So you used a translater. 

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, theleelajoker said:

. It just shows you lack the clarity you have yourself to express properly your message

It's quite the opposite at times. It can show the clarity and depth one has of understanding the point being relayed. Leo's videos are 3hrs long. Do you say he lacks the clarity to express his message that's why he does it in 3hrs. Provably not.

[Schizophonia]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

So you used a translater. 

When i do big posts like this one yes i generally first of all write it in french then i translate it with google traduction; I have a high level of vocabulary in french that i dont have in english so it's simpler like that. 

I just check the eventual errors in the post before posting it. 

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, The Crocodile said:

you loose the audience in the process.

Yes, because they're looking for entertainment. A quick fix. Shorts seemingly does this to the brain. On to the next, please. I don't have time for this. I'm in a rush to get to nowhere. 

[Princess Arabia]

Some posts are long, some are short. We want everything to fit into our little boxes. Move on if a post is too long and go get your short fix. This is Infinity where diversity is the spice of life. Short enough for you. Point taken? 

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

When i do big posts like this one yes i generally first of all write it in french then i translate it with google traduction; I have a high level of vocabulary in french that i dont have in english so it's simpler like that. 

I just check the eventual errors in the post before posting it. 

Ok, punctuation, grammar and all. All done by translater. Nice tool.

Edited Saturday at 01:51 PM by Princess Arabia

[Schizophonia]

11 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Ok, punctuation, grammar and all. All done by translater. Nice tool.

No by me. 

 

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Schizophonia said:

No by me. 

 

Ok. From now on I'm going to nick pit every post and comment you make for grammar, spelling and punctuation. I'll start here.

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Sometimes i want to propose something simple, and sometime something in a more complexe or detailed form; Just like food lol. 

It's a matter of taste  🤔 I think this kind of detailed form has the advantage to offer more exemples, pov to cling to understand the proposed mecanisms for people who are too strangers to the topic discussed.

I'll start and end here. Too time consuming to fish for grammatical errors in your posts. This has enough.

[Princess Arabia]

@SchizophoniaIt's fine by me and i don't care about your errors. I'm just showing how your own obvious writings are filled with errors for you to proofread with such accuracy all on your own. I make errors too, so this is not a criticism or judgement, just a pointer. I'll leave it here.