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I think it's a very spiritual practice to develop a profound sense of separateness and isolation from all other beings.

Realising that all objects and beings are completely separate from each other.

This individualisation can bring deep peace.

When one realises that the outside world does exist, and that one is simply a body which is dissociated from all other bodies, a deep sense of calm arises. 😇

Controversial opinion perhaps 'round these parts!

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@TruthFreedom Separateness is not an illusion. The illusion is the “not knowing” of a beginning or an ending of the fundamental source from which all individuated beings take birth and then die.


While conceptual objects and things are by nature ( pluralistic) Each and every thing is sourced from the exact same cosmic womb.
The ( Aggregate ) being a self-sufficient, self-replicating, automatic feedback loop, in forming itself as and through the process of separating and joining together again.

 

So there’s many combinations of creation’s infinite creative process. Each crafted thing being its own unique universe within itself while at the same time being a holographic part of the whole.And this knowing is the peace that passes all understanding.
 

Deep Peace is full awareness already present.To say these words is nothing. But to mean these words is everything. 

Say what you mean, and mean what you say. Peace is effortless. The opposite of peace takes effort.

Deep Peace is already this full awareness fully restored and fully recognised in every moment in every separated thing.

 

 

 

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In other words, to say there’s no separation is ludicrous, of course there’s separation, that’s the beauty and intelligence of source. There first must be a source for any thing to be. 
 

The claim there’s no self is simultaneously creating self. As there’s no such thing as a not thing. A thing is a thing and a thing can never not be a thing. Nothing’s is never self’s known experience. Only something’s experience is known, only aliveness is known.
There Can only be self - replicating itself. 
Source is not known because you already are source from whence you sprung. Sounds paradoxical, and oxymoronic but source couldn’t have been any other way.

I Am

 I Can because I Am.

Once known a thing known can never become not known. When one thing is known everything is known. 

 

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I’ve thought about this myself a lot and I agree that experiencing a sense of separation is important for many people in balance along side being one with everything, Wu Wei balance. I think what’s most important though is to be conscious of why you want to be separate because sometimes it can come from long held beliefs about wanting safety or control. Not that those are wrong, just so you know if they are driving the car or not. 

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1 hour ago, Lyubov said:

I think what’s most important though is to be conscious of why you want to be separate because sometimes it can come from long held beliefs about wanting safety or control. Not that those are wrong, just so you know if they are driving the car or not. 👍

It is important, yes,the individual does matter. 
 

It may well be a self driving car. And yes, you are this self. 

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On 5/5/2025 at 1:05 PM, TruthFreedom said:

I think it's a very spiritual practice to develop a profound sense of separateness and isolation from all other beings.

Realising that all objects and beings are completely separate from each other.

 

Being isolated can be also harmful. I've been isolating myself for long and I think i'm starting to get crazy.

Moderation is important.

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You left. 
And in leaving you finally arrived.

 

“Don’t let all those empty people try and interfere with you’re mind.

Just live you’re life and leave them all behind”  ~ Black Sabbath 

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Feeling strongly separated from others can come from a strong self awareness of your own self. So it was for me, as a child before I gradually dissolved myself (not all the way) I felt scarily separate, it was disturbing and that awareness was a self awareness. If you’re more outwardly focused you might be in more flow state and forget yourself more thus feel less separate

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On 5/5/2025 at 3:05 PM, TruthFreedom said:

I think it's a very spiritual practice to develop a profound sense of separateness and isolation from all other beings.

Realising that all objects and beings are completely separate from each other.

There is nothing to develop here. We already see ourselves as separate and see objects separate from each other. How does one develop a sense of separation where a sense of separation is already present. I wouldn't have a clue on how to develop a sense of separation. Hey there, get a knife please so I can cut your body off from mine. Is that how. Or having to keep reminding myself we're separate. 

This just seems like a rebellion against the term 'nothing is separate'. We don't go around living our lives as one. We don't see oneness. Oneness cannot be seen. The chair is seen as separate from the table. No need to develop that sense of separation.


What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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