If you have the money to get out of the USA, why haven't you?

[oldhandle]

On 9/13/2025 at 6:58 AM, Pox said:

if i was leo i would move to japan or western or northern europe

He says he isn't rich though

[oldhandle]

Trump is literally a Russian agent lmao USA is so cooked

[Breathe]

I think I'm going to leave. I thought about Germany, the UK, Australia, and Canada. I don't think I'll go to the UK now, though.

Germany sounds like the best option but will be the most challenging language wise.

I'm a tech dude but would rather teach math or programming at a high-school or community college level.

I need to figure out if I should get into teaching first then move, or move first with a tech job then transition into teaching once I leave.

I think the US is going down and it's going to be way worse than any can imagine.

American exceptionalism.

[Inliytened1]

On 3/20/2025 at 9:12 PM, oldhandle said:

Unless you are part of the 1% benefitting from Trump's policies, if you actually have the money to relocate and you aren't doing it, you are absolutely insane imo.

Most don't. 

[oldhandle]

On 11/29/2025 at 6:46 AM, Inliytened1 said:

Most don't. 

A sizable % of those that could, do not.

Anyway, this thread will continue to age better every day, lol.

[Breathe]

@oldhandle I'm not sure if there's anywhere to go. The US is only the first domino.

[LordFall]

Which other countries do you think offer better standards of living than the United States? 

[WonderSeeker]

I'm in Korea and while it's got its problems, it beats living in the U.S. at the moment. 

The U.S. is a clown show right now. I am so happy to be out. Plus, I'm young and pursuing a teaching career so moving to Asia made sense for me.

Those who are staying in the U.S., I ask why? Why do you assume it's the best. From personal experience I always find better relationships abroad and there are certain perks you just can't get in the U.S.

6 hours ago, LordFall said:

Which other countries do you think offer better standards of living than the United States? 

Are you serious? U.S. healthcare is atrocious. Education is abysmal, and only getting worse (I am a current educator, so I know this). PFAS now in the food/water (I used to work with PFAS, it ain't good for you). Childcare and paid leave barely exist, if at all. Unions are dead. The culture overall is meh. Cost of housing shooting up. Crushing student loan debt. Side note: Americans always come off as more narcissistic on the whole than people I meet abroad. And yet, all of that is still somehow better than most of the world, assuming you escape the rat race and find a good neighborhood in a good state to live. (I haven't done that yet, so that's my personal bias).

Scandinavian countries seem to have good standards from an "objective" standpoint. Only issue there is you can't build and maintain a sustainable biz for long... you'll get taxed to smithereens. But on average it seems a like a good place with awesome access to nature in places like Sweden, Finland, and Norway.

[oldhandle]

7 hours ago, LordFall said:

Which other countries do you think offer better standards of living than the United States? 

Are you saying this seriously?

[AJBrew]

A friend relayed to me that any of the Germanic countries are seriously worth looking into for a plethora of reasons. The Netherlands has some sort of relation with the US that makes moving there easier if you start your own business.

Edited 2 hours ago by AJBrew