Elon Musk says America should leave NATO

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Elon Musk insists America should exit NATO.

It's real.

https://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-insists-us-should-really-exit-nato-2041837

https://fortune.com/2025/03/09/musk-us-quit-nato-europe-defense-spending-donald-trump/

 

btw, this is totally unrelated. But I made a thread trying to survey party affiliation among members of this forum. I've created a poll, see link below, but only four people have answered, and the thread it beginning to die. I really want as much people to answer the poll just to get an accurate assessment of what kind of people are on this forum.

 

[zazen]

Musk weaponizing Starlink is the same as the West freezing Russian assets - it creates a precedent that destroys trust and accelerates the search for alternatives. This is what non-Western nations have been dealing with - a Western hegemony that has abused their position

Trump, Musk and company seem to understand the importance of the dollar being a reserve currency (as Trump threatened BRICS) as it subsidizes US primacy. But they seem to have forgotten their payment for this privilege was providing security - the very security they’re using as a bargaining chip and not willing to provide.

The only reason Musk is able to dictate terms so arrogantly comes from the very security infrastructure the US provides in exchange for dollar dominance - but that he and his boys are undermining.

Edited March 10 by zazen

[PurpleTree]

^ I agree. The US leaving NATO just accelerates the US losing power and influence. Also when US always talks about China you would think they need allies but i guess not.

[AION]

Europe is brain dead. They should have known about dependency and the dangers of that.
 

Turkey already got a taste of the dangers of US dependence after 1974 Cyprus peace operation which after the US cut military support. After that Turkey started its own military complex and they produce their own critical weapons like tanks, jets and drones. 

 

Europe has the brains but not the leadership actually. 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

In other news, X is under an intense cyberattack.

 

Other news by Bloomberg.

 

One trillion was wiped out from the stock market in a single day.

https://www.asaaseradio.com/us-stock-market-crash-1-trillion-loss/

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Elon Musk retweeted.

So you all know that this actually came from Musk and is not tabloid gossip.

[Princess Arabia]

Let the dictatorship begin. It's starting already. This is just the beginning. 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

5 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Let the dictatorship begin. It's starting already. This is just the beginning. 

Its either a dictatorship or the end of capitalism.

 

[zazen]

On 10/03/2025 at 10:51 AM, PurpleTree said:

^ I agree. The US leaving NATO just accelerates the US losing power and influence. Also when US always talks about China you would think they need allies but i guess not.

Europe seems to be drawing up a plan to strengthen itself:

Could be just what Europe needed to revive itself. Issue is how it will be financed, which hopefully isn’t anything close to what’s suggested:

Edited March 16 by zazen

[Breathe]

On 3/10/2025 at 9:43 AM, zazen said:

That is scary for Europe. Damn.

[Elliott]

On 3/10/2025 at 5:43 AM, zazen said:

Musk weaponizing Starlink is the same as the West freezing Russian assets - it creates a precedent that destroys trust and accelerates the search for alternatives. This is what non-Western nations have been dealing with - a Western hegemony that has abused their position

Trump, Musk and company seem to understand the importance of the dollar being a reserve currency (as Trump threatened BRICS) as it subsidizes US primacy. But they seem to have forgotten their payment for this privilege was providing security - the very security they’re using as a bargaining chip and not willing to provide.

The only reason Musk is able to dictate terms so arrogantly comes from the very security infrastructure the US provides in exchange for dollar dominance - but that he and his boys are undermining.

The u.s. itself doesn't even makes it's own parts or upgrade their own equipment, it's private companies.

[LordFall]

On 3/10/2025 at 4:24 PM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Its either a dictatorship or the end of capitalism.

 

Dictatorships always fail as their need for control is unnatural. We are about to enter the greatest free age of humanity imaginable. Perhaps there is a period of dictatorship before that but I'm not even sure of that. Decentralized ownership of AI labor will free mankind forever.