Post Modernism Pt 2

[JosephKnecht]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I will sell an empty jar labeled God.

Can you sell it without the jar, please? 

[josemar]

Around the 3h14m mark "There is such a thing as putting on too much make up, makes you ugly"

How dare you !!!?!?!??

 

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02:40:34 ... for example nationalism you know to have a country this is so basic that people don't understand to have a country you need to have a border and you need to have an army and that Army needs to be filled with men not with women with men who are willing to sacrifice their lives for that border and that country how do you get hundreds of thousands of men Along on this project to go fight and kill other men in brutal combat handy hand combat to defend your country you're not going to do it with

 

02:41:24 Marxism for that to happen you need nationalism your Progressive postmodern philosophy is not powerful potent enough to motivate somebody to go join the military the opposite in fact you know you're going to go deconstruct the military you're going to go deconstruct religion you're going to go deconstruct national identity you're going to deconstruct the Border as a postmodern you're going to deconstruct all these things what are you going to be left with you're going to be left with nobody to fight your

 

02:42:00 Wars and then when you get invaded uh raped and pillaged by your neighbors then you'll understand why not everybody was a postmodernist and why nationalism and modernism and even premodern were such important stages which we still haven't grown out of we are very far from growing out of those stages postmodernism tends to come with a loss of traditional and practical wisdom you can see postmodernists getting kind of ridiculed sometimes where they are so philosophical so intellectual that they just lack basic

 

02:42:44 common sense it's like you're so confused you don't even understand the difference between a man and a woman yeah in a sense that's ridiculous it's absurd to an ordinary person it is absurd that you're not able to distinguish between a man and a woman now of course there's a higher level of understanding where it actually does become difficult to distinguish between a man and a woman what is a man and a woman from a metaphysical point of view that's that's legitimate that's a legitimate question that's important philosophy but

 

02:43:18 you see for most people who are are just living their life who are raising a family who have children that need to go to school and just go to sports and compete and win championships and just you know succeed in the workplace and raise families of their owns and have a successful dating life for them this idea of you're confused about what a man and a woman is this is not only is this um so entitled so disconnected in a sense it's a disrespect for survival itself self it's a disrespect for life that you can be sitting there

 

02:43:53 worried about trans surgeries and this sorts of [ __ ] when in practice most people are barely struggling to feed their children and to have their children go to school and get decent grades and not commit suicide and not get you know addicted to heroin that's the reality of most parents' life not worrying about your [ __ ] hormone blockers this and is is he a man is he is that a man or a woman in in a locker R right like you have to be sensitive to how this kind of philosophy disconnects you from where most people are at in life

 

 

Exactly!!! I could bold the whole text around this timestamp!!!

[Twentyfirst]

Thanks for explaining woke. I honestly wish the woke would have packaged it up without ego and then maybe the world would be better off now. I am glad the MAGA people rejected it to give us all a breather. Gives the woke another ten years to redeliver it in a more appetizing way. It was not fair of them to ask and even demand we accept it in the form they were trying to rush to market. 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Bottom line is that, leftist woke postmodernist philosophy/ideology is only allowed to be created and exist due to significant technological progress. So that you can sit in your comfortable little chairs and philosophise. In a way, they're perfect examples of armchair philosophers

It's not the only thing that is necessary for it to bloom, but it is a necessary prerequisite

Edited January 27 by NewKidOnTheBlock

[The Crocodile]

22 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Bottom line is that, leftist woke postmodernist philosophy/ideology is only allowed to be created and exist due to significant technological progress. So that you can sit in your comfortable little chairs and philosophise. In a way, they're perfect examples of armchair philosophers

It's not the only thing that is necessary for it to bloom, but it is a necessary prerequisite

No, bottom line is the prerequisite for it is the cognitive capacity.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

9 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

No, bottom line is the prerequisite for it is the cognitive capacity.

And thinking that is exactly what's making you delusional

It's pure survival. Nothing else

Edited January 27 by NewKidOnTheBlock

[The Crocodile]

1 minute ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

It's pure survival. Nothing else

No, somebody could have Stage Green comprehension of reality in a Red country, silly Orange boy

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

1 minute ago, The Crocodile said:

No, somebody could have Stage Green comprehension of reality in a Red country, silly Orange boy

But that stage green comprehension doesn't mean shit, because the survival challenges being encountered in that hypothetical country are of stage red nature. And these challenges are not made up in the mind, but by the external circumstances (be it natural or man made). But sure, have fun being the only "smart one" LOL

[The Crocodile]

1 minute ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

But that stage green comprehension doesn't mean shit, because the survival challenges being encountered in that hypothetical country are of stage red nature. And these challenges are not made up in the mind, but by the external circumstances (be it natural or man made). But sure, have fun being the only "smart one" LOL

LOL, maybe that mod was right about you. Should've been you

Stage Blue thinking that Stage Orange is bullshit or Stage Red thinking Blue is bullshit, is not so different from Stage Orange thinking Green is bullshit.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

3 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

LOL, maybe that mod was right about you. Should've been you

Stage Blue thinking that Stage Orange is bullshit or Stage Red thinking Blue is bullshit, is not so different from Stage Orange thinking Green is bullshit.

This is the second time you have no real arguments against me and been boring me. If it happens a third time on a different topic, I'm ignoring your wokie ass. You are most likely another alt account anyway

[The Crocodile]

Just now, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

This is the second time you have no real arguments against me and been boring me. If it happens a third time on a different topic, I'm ignoring your wokie ass. You are most likely another alt account anyway

You had no argument to begin with.

Go reread everything I said with the knowledge it's absolutely true and you have no idea what you're thinking or talking about, blank slate. Just recognizing it was blank to begin with. 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

17 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

You had no argument to begin with.

Go reread everything I said with the knowledge it's absolutely true and you have no idea what you're thinking or talking about, blank slate. Just recognizing it was blank to begin with. 

Why would I do that

If your perspective and the way you chose to articulate it, is more correct than mine, then it should have clearly overpowered mine. But it clearly hasn't

And now you're throwing more pseudo spiritual nonsense in, hoping it's going to save you

Edited January 27 by NewKidOnTheBlock

[The Crocodile]

4 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

If your perspective and the way you chose to articulate it, is more correct than mine, then it should have clearly overpowered mine. But it clearly hasn't

You think Nazis would deconvert just from hearing a rational argument against it?

No, they wouldn't.

Whether it's extensive or limited in word count.

 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

12 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

You think Nazis would deconvert just from hearing a rational argument against it?

No, they wouldn't.

Whether it's extensive or limited in word count.

 

What does this have to do with nazism? We are critiquing post modernism here, and very specifically liberal woke version of it. So you should stay on the topic.

Russian philosopher Dugin also uses his version of post modernism and twists it in such a way to justify Russian actions. So post modernism can be used in a variety of ways

And since this is a video critiquing the former version of it, maybe you should be the one to examine your wokie beliefs. Not me examining mine

[The Crocodile]

Just now, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

What does this have to do with nazism? We are critiquing post modernism here, and very specifically liberal woke version of it. So you should stay on the topic.

Russian philosopher Dugin also uses his version of post modernism and twists it in such a way to justify Russian actions. So post modernism can be used in a variety of ways

And since this is a video critiquing the former version of it, maybe you should be the one to examine your wokie beliefs. Not me examining mine

No more bullshitting.

Do you like trump or not?

It's binary.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

2 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

No more bullshitting.

Do you like trump or not?

It's binary.

Lol

Sure wokie. Sure. Binary when it suits you, otherwise everything is on a "spectrum"

Idk. I don't care. I'm a bit afraid of what he's going to do in the office in terms of his international policies, but otherwise I don't care much about him. He's just another rich asshole you Americans produced, the only difference is that he's not afraid to let everyone know he's an asshole

[The Crocodile]

10 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Lol

Sure wokie. Sure. Binary when it suits you, otherwise everything is on a "spectrum"

Idk. I don't care. I'm a bit afraid of what he's going to do in the office in terms of his international policies, but otherwise I don't care much about him. He's just another rich asshole you Americans produced, the only difference is that he's not afraid to let everyone know he's an asshole

 That's a no

Very good.

[Thought Art]

That post modernist quote near the end was mind boggling. I didn't understand it and I still don't. I need to go and look up definitions of some of the words and then contemplate it. 

Leo, I don't know how you ever grasped any of what you are talking about...

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, ryandesreu said:

@Leo Gura Two and a half hours into the second video of the series on postmodernism, you finally drop the bomb that this teaching is only for the top 001% of thinkers, and to anyone else it would be counterproductive. You state that you are producing counterproductive material for the vast majority of your viewers because you like to teach advanced stuff. What am I missing here?

I teach very advanced things. Isn't that obvious? That's because I have an advanced mind and if you want simple teaching those are a dime a dozen. Bookstores are filled with basic self-help advice. My mind is not needed for that. My focus is to teach things no one else will teach you.

It's like I teach graduate school, not high school. Most people never get to grad school. 

But also, I try to make things very accessible because this doesn't require some crazy IQ to understand and normal people can learn it.

Edited January 27 by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

@The Crocodile Stop provoking him. Let it go.