NL INFIELD TEST: Is Jordan Peterson Correct About Being DISAGREEABLE?

[AION]

I tried this out and it works lol

[integral]

He’s playfully disagreeing and it’s fun and engaging.

if your energies off doesn’t matter what you say, you’re not gonna be taking more serious than anyone else.

The average disagreeable person has exhausting energy and you want to run the other way after interacting with them.

So it’s not what you say it’s how you say, it the topics you take your pointing to, your overall presence and to be balance.

he was not 100% disagreeable in the social interactions. He often agreed towards the end to alleviate tention or create the joke/connection.

Edited January 16 by integral

[AION]

@integral disagreeable is just showing personality in my opinion. 

It creates polarization and dynamic social energy instead of energetically stagnant information exchange that happens in nice guy interactions like 

“what do you do?”

”I do x, what do you do?”

And so on..

Polarization just happens authentically and from flow if you are just yourself and just tell your truth without fear or shame.  

[integral]

@AION being agreeable and disagreeable is different from your energy and personality. These are different things. In the response you gave you've merged being disagreeable with personality + energy and not creating a distinction between them.

7 minutes ago, AION said:

Polarization just happens authentically and from flow if you are just yourself and just tell your truth without fear or shame.  

I agree on this this is on point. With this same statement we can see that some people who have awful energy and personality and who are highly disagreeable, like if you ever seen a angry protester. Their energy is exhausting and does not add anything to the conversation.

Or if you ever interacted with my father it would be very clear that disagreeableness is not some magical virtue that adds to every conversation lol

Edited January 16 by integral

[something_else]

Being playfully disagreeable can be attractive. But if you seem like you take yourself too seriously and you're disagreeable, you'll mostly just repel people.

[AION]

3 hours ago, integral said:

@AION being agreeable and disagreeable is different from your energy and personality. These are different things. In the response you gave you've merged being disagreeable with personality + energy and not creating a distinction between them.

I agree on this this is on point. With this same statement we can see that some people who have awful energy and personality and who are highly disagreeable, like if you ever seen a angry protester. Their energy is exhausting and does not add anything to the conversation.

Or if you ever interacted with my father it would be very clear that disagreeableness is not some magical virtue that adds to every conversation lol

When they say disagreeableness , people mean disagreeable personality. 
 

Personality is basically what you think, feel and how you behave. Or it other words your being. And if are agreeable or not is not a spiel. It is how you are being with people. 
 

That is how I made the link between agreeableness and personality. Perhaps you have different definition of personality? 

And about your dad: be nice to him. I don’t think disagreeableness is a virtue to begin with. It is just a trait of his strong personality. He got your mom so he was doing something right. 

[Leo Gura]

If you are fun and playful and extroverted it makes no difference what you say or how agreeable you are.

The key is to be in a playful state.

Edited January 16 by Leo Gura

[Unsavory5291]

I love how Owen basically just interviews people nowadays 

[Twentyfirst]

I thought infields are only legit if they don't know the camera is there. Of course the women love to be on camera 

[AION]

I’m doing Owen’s Blueprint Reloaded and how he calls it is: being positively dominant or positive entitlement ..

People but especially women are very prone to social signals. So if you have low self esteem you are constantly sending her sub conscious signals that you have no success, are afraid to stick out and get yourself in trouble and afraid to mate with her. 

Obviously all these fears are outdated but 100-200 years ago you would still get in big trouble if you talked to the wrong girl or got her pregnant. 

You basically need to program yourself to not be afraid to be positively dominant through body language and most importantly breaking rapport tonality which sub communicates you have success, don’t need her approval, you don’t need anything from her, so she can relax and just have fun and ease in the flow.  
 

Even though Owen is an expert in this field you still see him fumble a lot when talking to those black guys or to that Latina woman who was there with another guy. So you don’t need to be the top dog. Just show positivity sprinkled with some little dominance aka not be a low status wuss. 
 

In peace time women don’t go for the most dominant guys. It is only in war time that they do. But they still want that little positive dominance, breaking rapport vibe and just have fun. 

Edited January 17 by AION

[Spiral]

It's rather simple, give them an emotional experience.

It's like a movie, if it doesn't make you feel anything it's not particularly good. You don't go to see a movie to learn, do you?

[Leo Gura]

The best guy I ever met in game wasn't a pickup artist. He is just an extreme extrovert. He can run circles around professional PUAs. He doesn't try to dominate or act alpha or be disagreeable. He's just extremely talkative and happy with everyone.

Once I told him about "state". He said, "What's that?" I explained it to him and he said, "Oh, I'm in state as soon as I get in my car". I said, "You fucker."

He could talk the panties off a bus-full of Catholic nuns. He's also the most fun to game with. Gaming with him is like magic.

PUAs are try-hard perverts. Natural extroversion is real game.

Owen modeled his game off naturals. But you can't turn an introvert into an extrovert.

Edited January 18 by Leo Gura

[Whitney Edwards]

He is being playful. He is quite extroverted. 

Better to be disagreeable, but in a softer way. Some people can be disagreeable to a neurotic degree where it ruins the mood and repels people. 

Edited January 19 by Buck Edwards