Shaming non-vegans is not right.

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

Mmm, heavy metals, my favourite side dish.

It depends on where it is farmed and also on the size of the fish.
You can eat small fish like sardines as much as you want.

Soon we will have ponds with farmed fish inside completely free of heavy metals, it is only a matter of time.

[Something Funny]

1 minute ago, Ero said:

That, and the catastrophic effects fishing has (the doc 

His reward circuit did not evolve to care about that.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

B12 was already answered.

No it wasn't

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Vegetables are full of calcium.

Only some of them, and none of it absorbs very well

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Iron is easy to supplement.

Non heme iron again absorbs badly unlike heme iron from meat and I refuse to be another version of Bryan Johnson. That's an answer to you as well @Ero It's dubious whether any kind of supplementation as we know it today is good for you anyway

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

You still need to take omega 3 supplements, even as a meat eater.

No, you can just eat fish, which is superior to any other source anyway

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Zinc is easy to supplement.

Long term zinc supplementation can cause copper deficiency, disruption of mineral balance, gastrointestinal issues and so on. Why not just be a real man about it and have some meat, instead of being a meatless soyboy

Edited January 9 by NewKidOnTheBlock

[AION]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

You troll lol but actually i've never seen a video like that with bean bowls.

It says a lot on what foods we really evolved around and therefore developed neurological patterns associated with it in the reward circuit.

 

That is why the vegans try to make look everything like beef or chicken to trick their mind but you can't fake it to the body. 

[Ero]

2 minutes ago, Basman said:

Growing an animal is way easier. 

Lab grown would be fully automated. No salaries to pay, no food and land necessary. The mass meat industry will simply be undercut. There will probably still be some high-end, "free-roam" animal industry for all the rich people who would like to eat the real thing. 

[Something Funny]

Just now, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

No it wasn't

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Not my fault you can't even read. It was answered.

[Ero]

1 minute ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

I refuse to be another version of Bryan Johnson.

That's actually funny. It trips me up that a person who speaks of longevity and life-long well-being looks like a vulture.

[Something Funny]

5 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Why not just be a real man about it and have some meat, instead of being a meatless soyboy

That's what this all is about. You guys don't give a shit about nutrition or actually finding out what is healthy or not. 

You are just insecure in your masculinity and feel the need to overcompensate.

Chimps, lol.

[Schizophonia]

12 minutes ago, Ero said:

@Schizophonia The heavy metals are indeed a reason to significantly reduce your fish intake. That, and the catastrophic effects fishing has (the doc @Bobby_2021 pointed out) are the reason this is not sustainable. 

Most of the fish found in France is local or imported from Scandinavia.
Don't watch alarmist documentaries filmed in the China Sea for vegan propaganda purposes, and even there they finally manage to more or less manage the reproduction of the species and stabilize their production.

 

Edited January 9 by Schizophonia

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

That's what this all is about. You guys don't give a shit about nutrition or actually finding out what is healthy or not. 

You are just insecure in your masculinity and feel the need to overcompensate.

Chimps, lol.

Well I mean, it's not that much about insecurity but one must wonder, if vegan diet makes you literaly objectively physically weaker then logically the term soyboy would be accurate, not only because you likely literaly eat soy on a semi regular basis but also because of these aforementioned deficiencies. I mean I would certainly equate manliness much more with a diet that involves meat than the one that lacks meat

[Schizophonia]

5 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

That's what this all is about. You guys don't give a shit about nutrition or actually finding out what is healthy or not. 

You are just insecure in your masculinity and feel the need to overcompensate.

Chimps, lol.

He trolls a bit but you indeed want a good testosterone and muscle composition even for your health. 

[Something Funny]

Its ironic that this obsession is what makes you less masculine and actually an antithesis to what a real man is.

A man is supposed to be confident, stoic, able to endure harsh conditions, grounded in higher values, thinking big vs focusing on petty things. 

And you are obsessed with your looks, like a little girl, living in comfort, and stuffing your belly.  Those are all feminine qualities.

God forbid someone thinks that your muscles are not big enough.

God forbid people think that you are a soy boy. You are so afraid of it, you think it is some bad insult, lol.

You are obsessed with external opinions instead of being grounded in your own principles.

All about pretending and not being.

Pathetic

Edited January 9 by Something Funny

[Something Funny]

@Schizophonia my testosterone if fine and so is my muscle condition, thank you.

[Schizophonia]

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Schizophonia meat has even less than 350 ckal?

More according to the amount of fat + it's way easier to eat 100g of meat that 100g of beans weighed raw.

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Yes, you also have other legumes, and nuts, and grains, and oils, and seeds.

Yes of course, if you can do it that way it's great. My point is that eating like that is more expensive and basing your diet on beans or grains is full of problems.

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

@Schizophonia my testosterone if fine and so is my muscle condition, thank you.

That was his point eheh, personally i don't care about testosterone levels, all i care about is well-being and enjoying a practical diet.

[Something Funny]

I will leave this life aligned with truth and love, having contributed to a better world for my children. You will die a pathetic hedonist.

[AION]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

That was his point eheh, personally i don't care about testosterone levels, all i care about is well-being and enjoying a practical diet.

Our vegan Batman is probably suffering from male breasts hence the projection

[Something Funny]

3 minutes ago, AION said:

Our vegan Batman is probably suffering from male breasts hence the projection

Our brain melt here doesn't know what projection is.

[Ero]

6 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

I will leave this life aligned with truth and love, having contributed to a better world for my children. You will die a pathetic hedonist.

I feel the same with fossil fuels and energy, fast fashion industry, etc. While you are on the right side of history, I think you have to accept the fact that very few people are willing to sacrifice to live virtuous lives. That is one of the realizations that helps you to move from Stage Green to Stage Yellow. This is one of the reason I am pursuing highly technical fields, because I believe without fundamentally disruptive technological advancement, the Game A capitalist dynamics will lead to Earth's total destruction. So we simply have to beat them at their own game - by creating the alternatives that are so much better than the status quo that continuing would it would be unattractive to even the most myopic and hedonistic person. 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

7 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Its ironic that this obsession is what makes you less masculine and actually an antithesis to what a real man is.

It's just an honest observation

8 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

A man is supposed to be confident, stoic, able to endure harsh conditions, grounded in higher values, thinking big vs focusing on petty things. 

Sounds like a slave thinking to me. Also a set of values dictated to you by women (as a collective). Not saying embodying these qualities sometimes isn't usefull but I don't hold that shit like a religion. Seems like you are quite keen on following various religions like a slave.

12 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

And you are obsessed with your looks, like a little girl, living in comfort, and stuffing your belly.  Those are all feminine qualities.

Sound like you're just speaking out of your ass at this point HAHAH

12 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

God forbid someone thinks that your muscles are not big enough.

That's why I don't exercise for big muscles. Only occassionally cause of the sedentary lifestyle we're living nowadays, to keep myself healthy

13 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

God forbid people think that you are a soy boy. You are so afraid of it, you think it is some bad insult, lol.

I wouldn't be afraid of it literaly because I am not eating soy in the first place LOL seems like it would effect you much more tho. You seem quite emotional. You can only be insecure about something that is actually true or could ne true about you. In most cases. Not all of course.

15 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

You are obsessed with external opinions instead of being grounded in your own principles.

Everyone needs external opinions. That can never go away

16 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

All about pretending and not being.

Huh?