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[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Leo Gura How squirrelly of you - well played 

Edited May 27 by Natasha Tori Maru

[CARDOZZO]

I don't know why but as time goes on, I see that I'm not eligible for Leo's path on spirituality.

I'm not into psychedelics, chemicals or whatever substance. I'm just sober (no chems or alcohol).

 

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 minute ago, CARDOZZO said:

I don't know why but as time goes on, I see that I'm not eligible for Leo's path on spirituality.

I'm not into psychedelics, chemicals or whatever substance. I'm just sober (no chems or alcohol).

Gut out interpretation. I do not use psychedelics - anymore.

[Eskilon]

23 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

To understand that everything is a hallucination you have to take a psychedelic and contemplate how there can be a difference between hallucination and anything else.

You will see that everything is a hallucination.

This is too deep to understand sober.

You mean to say that I'm in a padded room somewhere imagining Leo Gura's, Natasha's, etc?

Jk jk.

Edited May 27 by Eskilon

[Eskilon]

10 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

I'm not into psychedelics, chemicals or whatever substance. I'm just sober (no chems or alcohol).

You are high on testosterone and horniness, full of chemicals my dude 

But seriously, why so blue?

[CARDOZZO]

13 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Gut out interpretation. I do not use psychedelics - anymore.

No, I was not talking about you ❤️

It was just an observation ❤️

[CARDOZZO]

6 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

You are high on testosterone and horniness, full of chemicals my dude 

But seriously, why so blue?

I don't know. The majority of people that I see using drugs are a complete mess. 

They live for this shit.

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

You mean to say that I'm in a padded room somewhere imagining Leo Gura's, Natasha's, etc?

Jk jk.

It is more radical than that.

You are God.

[Eskilon]

3 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

I don't know. The majority of people that I see using drugs are a complete mess. 

They live for this shit.

I see, but what about you though? You are here on this forum and a smart guy; what makes you think you will fall on the complete mess state?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

11 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

No, I was not talking about you ❤️

It was just an observation ❤️

I'm a fan 

I love seeing everyone's progression through post history, my dialogues with users and their experience. Ultimately outgrowing all and discarding all ground will happen. I think, anyway 😊

[UnbornTao]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

To understand that everything is a hallucination you have to take a psychedelic and contemplate how there can be a difference between hallucination and anything else.

You will see that everything is a hallucination.

This is too deep to understand sober.

Here we go again. 

At some point this will get through to some of your followers, if they're willing to listen: 

 

[UnbornTao]

6 hours ago, CARDOZZO said:

I don't know why but as time goes on, I see that I'm not eligible for Leo's path on spirituality.

I'm not into psychedelics, chemicals or whatever substance. I'm just sober (no chems or alcohol).

The real teachers weren't into psychedelic drugs either, and there's a reason for that.

Unfortunately, it's easy to hear similar terminology from different individuals and assume they're talking about the same thing.

Edited May 27 by UnbornTao

[Eskilon]

7 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Here we go again. 

At some point this will get through to some of your followers, if they're willing to listen: 

 

At this point youre an Adi Da witness. Shit is too funny.

Preach.

Edited May 27 by Eskilon

[UnbornTao]

On 5/27/2026 at 2:25 PM, Eskilon said:

At this point youre an Adi Da witness. Shit is too funny.

Preach.

Your position is obviously influenced by Leo or is downright coming from him, whether implicitly or explicitly, judging by your reaction. Take a look at this.

If I shared some of Leo's videos, you wouldn't call me a Leo witness, would you? Especially since they'd likely confirm this view of yours that you seem to hold.

Adi Da was one of the few who knew what he was talking about - it just saves time to share the video. I've shared my personal experience enough times, but it doesn't matter how many times it's said here. C'est la vie.

Edited May 29 by UnbornTao

[Eskilon]

21 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

If I shared videos of Leo, you wouldn't call me a Leo witness, would you?

It depends on the attitude of the person overall. If they came across as preachy and follower vibes then yeah, I would call them Leo witness.

You call people here followers but you exibit the same behaviour with some spiritual teachers. Funny how that works.

21 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Adi Da was one of the few who knew what he was talking about

You dont and cant know that.

Edited May 27 by Eskilon

[CARDOZZO]

10 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I'm a fan 

I love seeing everyone's progression through post history, my dialogues with users and their experience. Ultimately outgrowing all and discarding all ground will happen. I think, anyway 😊

[CARDOZZO]

8 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

The real teachers weren't into psychedelic drugs either, and there's a reason for that.

Unfortunately, it's easy to hear similar terminology from different individuals and assume they're talking about the same thing.

We'll never end this topic. 

There is no resolution  

[UnbornTao]

On 5/27/2026 at 3:23 PM, Eskilon said:

It depends on the attitude of the person overall. If they came across as preachy and follower vibes then yeah, I would call them Leo witness.

Welcome to the Actualized.org forum. 

On 5/27/2026 at 3:23 PM, Eskilon said:

You dont and cant know that.

It can get tricky because the performance and the impressions made by the person can be deceptive, too. People lie to themselves even about this awakening business, presuming that a state change is the same as a direct consciousness.

You can certainly pay attention and recognize in some way when someone has some sort of awakening, something authentic. At the very least you can smell it if you learn to be sensitive - beyond the terminology and experience being presented.

This is the same with someone like Ramana, or Buddha.

Edited May 30 by UnbornTao

[UnbornTao]

19 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

We'll never end this topic. 

There is no resolution  

Ahhhh 

[Eskilon]

@UnbornTao If Leo didn't touch any psyche at all and still made the same videos like he did, you would be kissing his ass. 

It's just so funny your bias against psychedelics, you haven't contemplated what it is.