Truth Addict

@Rigel Observe figure #every_prophet: "You're gonna rot in hell and suffering if you disobey God. You're gonna be rewarded with the highest joys if you don't. That's not me being arrogant, greedy, or a liar, it is but the truth. You don't really have a choice, so pray and may God have mercy on your soul. I'm a prophet of mercy for those who believe, and of an eternal torment for those who disobey." _____ Now, that being said, results are different. You might succeed, and you might fail. You might even get killed. Are you ready to ongo such endeavour? Probably not. But you can definitely find other ways.

God is the perfect word. Because it's really Wow! It's like how come I couldn't see It before? Oh my God! Amazing! Hallelujah! God implies (Infinite Intelligence + Infinite Love + Infinite Beauty) = Absolute Infinity.

What if I have never experienced no-experience before?

@Aakash @Ethankahn Can I talk about experiences I never had?

@Ethankahn You're welcome at all times ?

Science is completely accepted here. And in fact, it's the foundation of this work. Some members criticise science because it's just too materialistic in its approach to understanding reality, and therefore limited. We go beyond mainstream science and we accept more perspective. Logic is kind of flawed, but is still useful. We don't reject logic, but rather, we question it. Philosophy is good, but not good enough. It can keep you stuck in theory land speculating, without ever getting down to reality, and actually work, and embody the concepts. Feel free to ask anything on this forum, the guys here are extremely kind and friendly and open-minded. They will do their best to help others. Have a great day!

Like what exactly? Please elaborate.

@fewrocker It's really more of a subjective matter. Do you feel thankful for what you have? Do you feel that you're gonna have a positive impression on humanity? Do you think that you have the ability to decrease human suffering?

@Shakazulu Me too bro, and I'm not perfect. I like those things. But, for me, peace of mind is way more important.

@Mezanti I agree. Right now, we need to focus on improving ourselves so that then we can help others. Cheers man! And good luck

You win the peace of mind, and you avoid suffering. What else could you ever ask for?

@Miavono There are a lot of traps, it's pointless to name them. The trick is to be mindful and aware all the time, and to be radically open-minded, and to do the work.

Animals go from point A (hunger, or horniness for example) to point Z (eating, and having sex) directly. Mankind goes from point A to point Z through B, C, D, E, F, etc... Mankind creates hell out of nowhere to feed their egoic complexities.

@Mezanti I don't think that's possible. A government is a very complex system, changing one person is gonna make allergic reactions to the system strong enough to get the foreign body killed, attacked, threatened, set up, or at least kicked out. You see, the government is a collective ego, and most politicians (at least the ones who have the most power and influence) are stage orange materialists, the only thing that holds their stranglehold together is their common selfish egoic devilish agenda. Imagine putting one sheep among 10 wolves, that's how it works in every system, because that provides stability for the whole system. If you want to change the government, you need to change it as a whole, which obviously is not possible because it's a complex network of individuals that share the same interests. The other and only way in my opinion is the media, but of course that's not easy. Take Actualized.org for example, it's a great rare tool for developing people up the spiral, and Leo is nailing it there, but that's not enough. The mindset of the collective system needs to change in order to make real effective changes. Which, of course, requires a lot of time and effort and energy and money. Media is power.

What is an ego? How do you know that other living beings don't suffer? For what I know, suffering is an experience.

What do you mean by confusion?

Why should I take this question seriously?

Health, (food, sex, repeat). Health, (hunger, horniness, repeat).

@Nagma Religion and politics are not the same thing. When they blend together they create best results. Religion is about finding Truth. Politics is about embodying your understanding in your practical life with others. Osho perhaps was a great mystic, and a bad politician. But for example, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammed, etc.. They were great at politics too. That's why new agers will never make a difference.

@Shadowraix Infinite Intelligence is not randomness. Dreams are not random, they're just out of your control. What governs them? Is it chaos? Or God (infinite intelligence)?

@Mezanti All of these spiral dynamics discussions are masturbation. You want to become effective. Become the media, or at least some part of it.

This. You never had control. Infinite Intelligence is working through you, with you, and for you. Just relax and do what you gotta do. With infinite intelligence, there's no fear anything can ever go wrong. Everything is gonna be alright. Embrace the moment and let go of the future and the past. Here's the takeaway: No plan is immune like being present.

@Guided Life is duality. Life is like a breath: inhalation and exhalation. You can't hold on to one of them, if you try to, there will be a reaction. If you hold your breath after deep inhalation, you will crave exhalation. And vice-versa. You can apply this rule to anything in life. There must always be a balance (Karma). Nothing is sustainable. Suffering ends, and so does everything else. Except...

@TheAvatarState If you mean by awakening: the freedom from illusion. Then, yes it is.