Blissout

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    What I am saying is not intellectual, it's my experience.

    But what can I do that you can't experience the difference between an object and pure awareness?

    From my experience when there is objectless awareness there is no sense of ME, I, a sense of you there, it's objectless duh!

    There is no center, the awareness is vast without any limits, certainly not some place in the physical body.

    All there is is peace. you are peace.

    I AM is just like any object such as the breath or a mantra.

    Many people confuse the I AM for pure awareness.

    The I AM is like a thin wall. watch it long enough and it will dissolve leaving the pure I which is different in nature.

    Also if you have this sense of an observer that still is an object in the mind. go directly to pure awareness and even that feeling/sense won't be there.

     

     

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    21 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

    @Blissout @Preetom  Nisargadatta may have used "I am" interchangeably.

    One quote is: "stay in the I am and in doing so trancend it".

    And in another quote:  Do not bother about anything you want, or think, or do, just stay put in the thought and feeling, ‘I am’, focusing ‘I am’ firmly in your mind. All kinds of experience may come to you – remain unmoved in the knowledge that all perceivable is transient and only the ‘I am’ endures. 

    I AM meditation is fine! but it's for beginners. once you can recognize pure objectless awareness, there is no need for I AM.

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    10 minutes ago, Preetom said:

    Let's not see it from a narrow perspective my friend. Let's sort this out experientially!

    If I AM is an object you can 'focus' on, tell me from your own experience what are objective qualities of this I AM? Is it a color, a sound, a subtle sensation? Does it have a specific pinpoint location? Tell me. If you can't find any of these qualities, then why are you declaring I AM as another object? Notice that whatever you point to as I AM is not the I AM but I AM THIS.

    If I AM was purely an object like lets say the sensations in the head, then Maharaj would advice to firmly focus on the sensations in the head. That would be a concentration meditation. But he repeatedly said that, Subtract the THIS and THAT and only stay as the I AM.

    From my experience, I AM is a pure witnessing state. This I AM cannot be objectified in any way. When Maharaj says that the I AM needs to be transcended or ''In the Absolute state I don't even know that I AM'', he means that by staying as that pure subject I AM in an unbroken fashion, at one point you realize in a flash that this very 'knowiness' or I AM is not something you personally own. Right at that moment, You discover the I AM as the impersonal Universal Consciousness, the Only Consciousness there ever was and ever will be. That is the absolute state where the last vestiges of personhood is given up.

    That's why I AM or pure witnessing is the direct doorway to Absolute. By staying with the I AM unbrokenly, you discover it's Truth.

    I am elaborating all this over and over again because I find from my personal experience that creating more and more layers in the Subject or I AM just makes the witnessing process more complex and inefficient. The mind runs into intellectual land to make sense of things by objectifying the subject, witness behind witness behind witness....I hope you get my point.

    Why not just take only one pure subject, the formless I AM and just watch...carefully eliminating everything the I AM is not...until the I AM reveals itself as the Absolute?

     

    Ugh.

    The whole point is to land on pure I.

    You can do that by bypassing the I AM (which is the root of the ego I) again, both nisargadatta and ramana mentioned this. Ramana calls it the i-thought. Robert Adams talks about it, Rupert Spira talks about it. Rupert spira tells you to ignore the I AM and go directly to objectless awareness which is not AN OBJECT. I AM is an object appearing in awareness.

    OR you can put attention on the I AM until it dissolves which will reveal the PURE I.

    Do some research!

    The feeling of a ME the feeling of an I is the I AM, it's an object in awareness. many can't go directly to pure awareness so they meditate on the I AM.

    I find it very easy to land directly on pure awareness which is objectless... in the pure I there is no I AM object.

    If you can't go directly to pure awareness that is your problem. but know the difference.

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    2 hours ago, eputkonen said:

    @TheSomeBody  my daily practice (currently) is what I call SOAK.  Softness, Openness, Appreciation, and Kindness...that is what I practice throughout the day.  Being softer (speech and such), more open (vulnerable...no defenses or walls)...appreciating all that is...and being kind to myself and others.

    But what for? Since you are already enlightened?