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However imagine, in that case the mindfuck would be so huge that you will doom yourself for whole your life chasing yet another biggest delusion. That is sort of double mindfuck you are preparing for yourself in that case. First one is when you discovered the Enlightenment path and the second one would be when you finally attain that knowing after living 10 years like zen monk. And then... you discover that that was just another, more deluded illusion. This time your brain chemistry trolled you like a little baby. And than you look at your friends who partied and lived their lives at fullest without caring where and why it goes to. And finally who knows, both of you just reincarnated in another lifetime. 1:0 for your current lifetime.

@Shiva I mean what if "True Enlightenment" itself is yet another deception. Which means that belief so strong that it alters brain chemistry thus making it into a special experience of knowing.

I relate to the first type. I always have been in search for answers. And I always have been depressed because I was not sure whether this life was real or not. Even since my early teens. That;s why Matrix has been always my favorite movie. But that does not mean that this makes Enlightenment the Truth. It can be, however it also can be just another delusion which seems damn so real.

I have had these experiences you are talking about and not a single one. I can sit for an hour with the still mind - close to 0 thought. Why so many of you here assume that you know my current progress? I still question everything and I recommend you to do so. Nobody knows yet what is human brain capable of. There have been numerous miraculous cases when human brain completely altered whole body chemistry. Thus the experience as well...

There is a chance that we are all here deluded including Leo Gura. Why nobody here is considering that there is the chance?! That alerts me very much... we need to be more critical. Leo you need to be more critical towards Enlightenment...

But there is the problem. If you find out yourself you may be trapped into that false realization and think that finally you understand it - Finally! You got Enlightened! And nobody will be able to proove you that it is just another product of shift in your brain chemistry!

So maybe all these Enlightenment stuff is just our mind'sproduct of false liberation? Our mind becomes so deeply depressed that it will do anything to save us. And that's what we call Enlightenment? Isn't that a possibility? Why not???

@Dodo that only strengthens my suspicions. And it should yours as well. When you are in trouble you are more exposed to biases and false realizations which supposadly will bring you liberation. Think about it. You begin to seek liberation so desperately that you may even change your whole brain chemistry with false ideas...

@Shiva realization and belief are not that far away from each other. Have you never experienced the false realization? When you were deeply sure that you knew something then the mindfuck happened?!

Exactly and that's what I'm saying. Most people start this journey to escape their hardships. Which might lead to bias beliefs. And maybe, just maybe Enlightenment is yet another belief and that's it.

@LaucherJunge what do you mean confirmation bias not needed though it means cognitive bias. It just happens. Nobody will do 10000 hours of meditation and self inquiry without initial belief. Think for yourself.

@Shin however you want to admit or not. This path is also very close to religion. First, you need to believe in the possibility that it may be True to start practice. So there is still an element of initial belief here. Then there is a confirmation bias - look it up in the google. That means that people are tend to lookup the information which fortifies their existing beliefs.

Read my comment right before yours... Start questioning everything. You are not sure in anything.

What about self-induced belief possibility

Doing both

I am sage, I am not Enlightened.

Tai Chi is indeed is very close to meditation, however Kung Fu seems more powerful. Anybody experienced in any of these to explain?

@Leo Gura will it be as effective if I just choose one channel for example seeing or inner seeing and do only it for 20 minutes every day? Or should I do all channels interchangeably? Also I don't quite understand what's the reason behind labeling it as seeing, hearing and feeling? And what do you mean by noting.

Shhh everything's gonna be okay...

I always feel that I have valuable wisdom and knowledge to share with the people but sometimes I can't. As an introvert it is hard for me to accept the spotlight and be comfortable in public speaking. I have tried many times to work on this skill but it seems like I lack some techniques, discipline. What kind of effective exercises do you know? Maybe book recommendations, Youtube videos, courses anything really.

I am totally addicted to James Marshall's videos. I think that's in my style. Mastering my body and PD to attract females naturally. I love how he emphasizes meditation significance in mastering your emotions and becoming naturally anxiety free with females. Does anyone know anybody similar to James Marshall? I want to be zen alpha male - unbelievably chill and anxiety free.

@Leo Gura Leo, me and you are friends right?

@Revolutionary Think don't drop your passion for creating motivational movement. Continue experimenting with your youtube channel while searching for another job. You can always do youtube even when you work full time.

I've become pure consciousness with no limitations during my ego death experience while tripping. I even experience same during very powerful meditations. But in my regular state I feel otherwise. Thereby, my answers are from my current perspective - Now. However I did not fully see how time works during my ego death experience. It seemed like observing figures from the different "angles" created their actions and movements - thus the change was happening not in the time but through the observation from different "angles". However still, how does awareness experience all at once? Is my life and your life happening simultaneously? Or "we" play every role one by one.