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Sounds like me with running lol. My hips are so knitted up after all these years of running that it’s been difficult to get mobility I didn’t know was even remotely possible for me. My real issue that I seem to have in body when I sit how tension I have in my lungs when I sit, particularly without backpack support. To be metaphorical, my lungs feels like I’m grabbing onto a rubber chew toy and I’m squeezing it and I can’t let go. Can’t even really do pranayama because of the amount of anxiety I have in my system. Reichian therapy like morning gagging help a little bit but not much. It’s been a huge challenge for me.

If he’s the Messiah then I’m god himself... oh wait...

Excellent stability throughout that whole routine. Didn’t see a bit of instability. Looks like you’re striking the hard balance between mobility, flexibility, and relaxation with solidly foundational core strength. Keep it up man! Good to see faces behind these profiles!

Again, you’re relating to your own ideas. Not competing with you nor do I care to. Project whatever you want about me.

If you spot it, you got it. Whatever you see in Leo or anyone is what you yourself have. So check yourself on that Actually you do. If you wanna play the game of thinking you know someone deeply by “seeing his unconscious behavior” and thinking that YOUR extremely limited interpretation based on what you see on someone forum profile or videos and fraying conclusions about that, that’s just pure arrogance and naivety. That’s about you. What you’re not admitting here is that you actually DON’T see any of those things claim. You can make certain extremely limited conclusions but that’s about it. The rest is your own projections and fantasies about him as a person. If you want to pretend you’re a psychoanalytic expert that pretends to know how to read people, go ahead and play that game. You seem to lack an understanding of how much your own minds conclusions can’t be trusted. If you wanna be loose with the titles you give people, fine. Calling someone a master though tends to have certain criterias that come with that. Spiritually MASTERY has very little do with just having cool experiences and even insights.

First off, just going through his channel and his content speaks for itself that this young guy ain’t some enlightened master. Second off, you speak as though you know this guy personally. Let’s be clear, if you have never met this guy, you’re mostly just relating to your own ideas of the person. In truth, if you haven’t met him or any teacher, you don’t really know them. No one here who watches Leo and hasn’t really gotten to know him personally in person actually knows Leo. They just pretend to know Leo (or any other teacher). No one is saying this guy may not have something valuable to say, however, all because you have something valuable to say and you talk about spiritual stuff doesn’t make you a master whose put in the tens of thousands of hours.

If you’re serious... 3 Volumes of Capital by Karl Marx

This chubby Conor McGregor clone ain’t an enlightened master . Sorry lol.

Emotional Work: I’m personally trying to not make this development too overly structured because that really engages the Achilles heal (which is also my greatest strength) - complexity. Consciousness work is unfolding as it has to. I’ve had many glimpses now and all I can say is that enlightenment is not dependent upon talent. The degree to which your state can hold such a realization (and that realization is not dependent upon states) is another matter. I do certain techniques in Reichian Therapy, psychedelics, and other stuff, but the heart of it is grounded in honesty. Which bums people out because hey, that ain’t a fancy solution. Honesty is PROFOUND. Most people, even people, have no idea what honesty is. Not in its radicalness or even difficulty (and it’s very difficult) but in the very nature of what honesty is. Simple yet profound, which is how it tends to go. Having said that I’m also seeking out psychotherapists again, which is hard for me because I’m not earning much. I’m about to switch from working 60-70 hour weeks in pest control earning just $1500-$1700 per paycheck but now to a waiter at a fine dining restaurant here in Boulder, CO where I’ll start by probably earning as much as I am now but with half the hours but I’ll be moving up in pay as I go on and improve. With that said, though you want to have a psychotherapist who works with modalities that are effective and useful, the most important part is finding one that gets you and resonates with you. I don’t mean that in some mystical sense (though that helps). I’m actually switching from a psychotherapist whose VERY awake but I didn’t find effective outside of our appointments. So I’m switching to someone else. I personally was hesitant to go back to therapy because after 10 years of pussy level therapy where nothing got done, I was on medication that made my cognition worse over time, wasted my time, and much more, I actually didn’t want to go back. I’m trying to work on a variety of things now including shadow work. Shadow work because 1... you CANNOT do shadow work by yourself. Let me repeat: You CANNOT do shadow work by yourself. I find shadow work to be absolutely crucial this day in age given polarization and I want to work on it also becaue I want to be a more responsible and effective citizen of this planet. Wilber, Consciousness, and My Vision: I moved to Boulder, CO largely because I want to be around the Integral commmunity (however that’s not that the whole picture). I want to meet and talk to Wilber and I’m serious in making that happen. So understand that my move was part of that. I’m also part of Integral Zen here. Part of it, not committed. The Integral community is VERY small for reasons partially regarding Wilber’s health. I also want to meet David Loy who I’ve yet to meet. I’m also around Ralston’s Cheng Hsin community quite often and am in contact with some of his main students that I talk to somewhat regularly. I do plan on meeting Ralston at a retreat or something. I want to meet that man before he stops altogether as he is ready to step away from the whole thing very soon. As far as my path, like I said, it’s unfolding as it has to and a lot of I think my path is going to be that of letting go of my neurotic need and compulsion to control my future and what not. It’s really simple, all I want is to know. Thats it (though that’s no small task). I am currently not a strong enough person in terms of commitment, integrity, discpline, emotional stability, self esteem, etc. to do what I want to do. I will likely need a teacher or teachers. I intuit my real life purpose and contribution won’t come till after and that just feels like that’s what true for my path despite my preferences and desire to have things be otherwise at times. Even then though, I still don’t feel that comfortable having this “mission” of “awakening the world”. I’m not here to be Superman. I understand for some VERY FEW people (and I think Leo is maybe one of them - however I don’t know, I haven’t met Leo so I can’t say and don’t want to pretend like I know him) can say ACTUAL honesty that they do have such a genuine intention and drive. However, most people I imagine say that really are just caught up in a fantasy. A statement such as that isn’t REALLY genuine, much less even remotely lived. I think Leo would be the first people I’ve ever heard of have that vision first and then work both the contribution and the realization sides at the same time and make that real. And even then, to be quite honest, I just don’t want to brainwash people with some vision and have people follow me. That’s never been my way. There have been plenty of mystics and sages like Buddha and Christ and what not but just don’t want the attention and just lived differently. That’s fine. You’re not less awake all because you don’t want that kinda stuff.

Lol

@SvanteTheBeast space doesn’t exist.

It’s very simple: relax and surrender. That doesn’t mean you forcibly stop anything. Surrendering the mind and doing nothing DOES NOT mean you stop the mind. It’s means you stop and allow whatever that is occurring. If you’re mind is going crazy, allow it, surrender, do nothing. If you are driving in your car, you are driving allowing your mind to do whatever it does. THAT is surrender. The fact that you’re trying to make this complex is what makes this so hard. Sit down on a chair and let the mind go on, allow the mind to go crazy and bitch and moan. If you’re sitting still fine but that’s not the point. The point, as far “recognition” (and that itself is false because that implies cognition and enlightenment has nothing to do with cognition) of Truth goes is that you’re not your body-mind. Notice how you’re aware of all that mental, psychosomatic, physical, etc. nonsense. Who is that’s aware of all those thoughts? Whose agitated? Whose confused about this technique experiencing this mental state? The whole technique of doing nothing is the recognition is that what you are is that silent presence which is everpresent and is and has always been doing absolutely nothing. Good. Now, you’ve heard a cute little story, great. Now surrender and doing nothing moment to moment through out your day.

An enlightenment is not dependent upon circumstances.

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This is not at all universal. Most people who run hundred milers or even marathons dont really even hit that. Don’t turn this into a fantasy. Running is fucking hard when you take it on seriously. Osho aint no runner. Have him run a hundred miler in the mountains and I’d bet money that dude would still fall apart. Your mind doesn’t just all of a sudden stop or something like that. You allow the mind to do its job and staying present and a few other aspects but this idea that you have to reach exhaustion is silly. I suggest you don’t speak as though what you’re saying is universal.

The short answer is yes. As a competitive runner for 12 years now, I’ve found that the more meditative you are comes from really 2 things: perfecting your craft letting go Flow states in running is really just another type of meditative state. The best way I can put this is that when you run with the aim of meditating, keep in mind that this can get more difficult because the mind will get extremely punchy. Controlling your mind is really about what you don’t do. It’s staying focused. So when you run, run. Stay there and allow. This will get hard when you get tired. If youre like me and you’re going up steep 10, 12, 14% vertical grades for miles at a time, that shit gets REALLY hard because the mind can and will react. Correcting running form mechanics really helps because it’s all about becoming more efficient. In this case it also helps it become more “effortless”. @Conscious life does make a point where it sometimes does take points of exhaustion to really reach that. However, it doesn’t have to be that way. If you’re meditating regularly and are really working to perfect your craft at meditation, you can bring that into running. They walk those miles. Which is why it can take them 15+ hours to finish. You’re an endurance animal that was physiologically designed to run hundreds of miles at a time. Give it time.

Had the EXACT same thing on LSD. Then I realized I caused the holocaust. That all of it was love. What a trip that was LOL

Stop believing period. Disbelieving is still believing. The actual truth is that you don’t know. Stop trying to hold a position so you can sit back and be a victim. You’re writing this. I don’t see a no free will excuse for that. If you don’t know what you want to do I suggest you read The Path of Least Resistance. Showss you how to be a creator in your own life. Probably the best self-help I’ve ever read. Helps you give you an orientation on how to get clear on what you want to create in life. Read it and take action on it. Try psychedelics Let go of the neurotic “need to know” and open up. Take actions like sitting in a room for a week and do nothing. Even if you don’t want to do it. What other choice do you have? Keep complaining and not trying anything only to end up wasting the precious time that is your life and not try anything?

I’m honestly looking for any tool right now that can help with deep self esteem issues, crippling self-doubt in making bold decisions and taking action deciding my life purpose and having the stability of mind to pursue it without sabotaging my efforts a couple days in. On the Big 5 Scale (too no surprise of my own), my weakest points was that I scored all across the board on all the different scales with a high in neuroticism and low on all aspects regarding conscientiousness. I worked my ass off to get off all the SSRIs and mood stabilizers and adhd meds for over 10 years. Though I find breakthrough psychedelics very helpful, I can’t really sustain or even remotely integrate what comes up for me in my life because it’s nust so much and I’m really low Maslow hierarchy of needs and still trying to figure out how to escape wage slavery. Though I want an effective tool, I don’t want something that’s just going to work so long as I keep taking it. If the “progress” I get from microdosing is only brought about so long as I take it and not after i decide to stop (and as I keep doing the work despite getting off), as far as I’m concerned at least for me, that’s pseudogrowth and not what I’m looking for. I’m trying to utilize a tool that can help in the really rough stage of life to help life myself up into higher stages and also serve as tool to help facilitate deep personality change/transformation and also development or growth until I don’t need it anymore and then I can abandon it. With all that said, is microdosing a good potential option for going down that route? @Serotoninluv @outlandish @Shadowraix @Leo Gura @Girzo

There needs to be a siddhi for time traveling to the future to do Leo’s courses before they get released.

@TrynaBeTurquoise his sentence completions never really felt like they helped. I think the principles are more important than anything else. And when you stop taking it, let’s say for a month, but still keep up with your practice(s)? Does that progress tend to slide off or does it still tend to stick? @Shadowraix part of my idea was to use it to get more in touch with what I want to create in my life and have a tool that can help me build momentum in that direction. But yeah, definitely not trying to stay with it forever.

Show me studies of people who’ve taken such nootropics over the long term (at least 5 years or longer) and show me their feedback. And you’re correct about psychedelics. Hence why I personally would suggest you don’t try and rely on them and confuse state experiences (whether it be psychedelics or other substances) for actual growth itself. I personally have no interest in using psychedelics longer than I have to. Saying that as someone who really gets a lot of psychedelics. You don’t appreciate what taking these things over a long period of time (many years) does to the brain. Which is not to suggest not taking any. Personally, none of these nootropics have provided any benefit on a day to day basis for me even after 2 weeks. I’m all about trying to kickstart growth through certain mediums so long as they help facilitate long term growth after. If you the only time you can meditate, for example, is when you take modafinil or some other thing and when you don’t you can’t meditate for shit, you’re not actually improving. Period. You and I though still are on the same page at the heart of it which is that tools ALONE without initiative, discpline, or action don’t mean shit. Tools don’t do the work. They merely help get the work done.

Done with nootropics. Given an almost 20 year history on various medications, nootropics such as modafinil, armodafinil, l-Theanine, etc. don’t have any effect after a couple days. As far as I’m concerned, they’re merely hacks that don’t help over the long term (years and years and years and years and years). Most people don’t appreciate that because they don’t take these things over the long haul. Which brings me back to the underlying point that I don’t want a hack or pseudo growth.

I can see how gravity as a concept is something human beings invented and now project in order to interpret the world around them. However, I still don’t understand how the principle of what the concept of gravity is pointing to wasn’t there prior to Newton making that distinction. The example I still get stuck on in my own contemplation of the matter is such: if I pick up anything and I drop it, whether or not I made the distinction of gravity and the force of it, it still fell down. Planes operate they do because of a force that we now call as gravity. Even if I take away the distinction in my mind, it still falls down as it did even when I had the distinction of gravity. Where am I getting lost here?

Idk what your imagination is telling you I’m projecting about you. None of what I said has anything to do with you. Learn to handle criticism.