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It wasn't a counter-argument to what you said. Turn off the debate mode, please. I have been supporting your argument. I have said the photography stuff applies if someone takes your position. I assume we are on the forums and everyone has to have strong opinion and be cut-throat, otherwise we don't know who is who, where is up and where is down.

And also, some of the worst mates. Maybe not in an absolute sense, but the most deranged and ungrounded form all the spiritual people. Everyone is here.

@r0ckyreed The problem is, THE STATEMENT that a thing should serve such and such purpose in such and such way is no the same as its REALITY. The rules of science are not strong enough to ensure their proper execution by real humans in the real world. So in fact, it is a problem with science itself, no scientists. You can see that through using science on itself. If using the procedure again and again still fails by producing flawed research and biased scientists, then the problem is with the procedure. It's just not adjusted well-enough to the reality. It's arrogance to demand reality bend to some arbitrary philososphy spelled out by humans, which science is. It's not a reasoning that proves the problem is with science, but it shows a strong possibility it is so.

Some proof of that statement: https://metamoderna.org/what-is-the-mhc/

I have read this, it's integral theory adapted to relationships like a blueprint. A lot of authors from Ken Wilber's community do that when writing a book, they basically take integral theory and do this: They add their theme of the book as a new line of development. The book itself is a good read. It recycles some common psychology theories and is a good example of how to practice applying integral theory to a topic. Reading this book might give you some ideas on how to apply the theory to some other topic, like for example money, and think everything through as it has been thought through in the book. I have designed my own relationship based on his triangle and use it routinely to diagnose if any problems start to appear my gfs and my relationship. It's not his original idea, though. Many other ideas are not original either, but if you have never studied psychology nor integral theory in a serious setting, then you might find many ideas from the book new and refreshing

If you argue against work of an AI being your work, then it perefectly compares. Typing a prompt is like a skillful search of the stock database and you should credit Midjourney as a creator, the same as you credit an original photographer when asked who made the photo. There's way more nuance to every question, because even phot is not made by single person often. Who's the author then, the guy has pressed the button, or both he and the guy who setup lightning? A lot of nuance both for photography and AI art. But I think it's comparable, very well comparable.

People using the same arguments as people who have been arguing against industrialization 100 years ago. Humanity has had this conversation thousand times already. Guess who repeatedly won the debate?

Very good. I have been doing typesetting for a while and I think it's a shame there isn't an AI already doing that automatically well enough. Amazon has tried to make that for Kindle, and I don't know if they succeeded already. Maybe there is one in 2022, dunno. It's better for all book readers. I don't fucking care about sitting all day in InDesign with a coffee, there are many other valuable things I can do in my life.

I have read OP twice, but don't see anything I can comment on, other than disagree on your judgment on Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh-Gender being any kind of thinkers and skilled debaters. And if Jordan Peterson has any value to offer, it's not his farts on topics of gender or fat people. I am sociologist. If you are interested in the topic of gender, then you can read some Judith Butler. I think that by reading you will come to your own answers. You will also notice how much there is of a gap between people like Ben Shapiro and serious intellectuals.

Have you ever seen abyone with such a foking banner? I think it doesn't exist, it's not a serious position held by substantial amounts of people. What is the issue with colored hair, too? If people had access to cheap hair paint in medieval times, the kings would have walked around in purple mohawks.

@illusory The appeal to currently existing laws is not a proper argument for such philosophical questions. The laws are made for various reasons, and I am 100% sure these particular ones have not been made with "philosophically determining who is the artist" in mind. Copyright laws have been made to protect financial interests of companies, because we live in capitalism. Adobe could add a pragraph like you describe to their products, if they were lunatics. Would that mean people using Illustrator, Photoshop and InDesign are not artists anymore?

You should not. Now is the time to learn Math, Math is easy, it's just an algorithm. Check out a book named "Engineering Mathemathics" by K.A. Stroud and Dexter J. Booth. It starts with all the material from zero. You can find the book on Z-Library. This website is cool also: https://schoolyourself.org/ WHY? Why is it important to master Math now? Because you need it anyway to pass school, also it develops your brain, your resolve and other soft charactetristics. BUT. The most important reason is that MATH TUTORING pays $60/hour for doing almost nothing. You can start an account on Wyzant or something. You can also look for local clients. I strongly encourage you to become good at MATHS and a TUTOR. The alternatives are bleak unless you have a sensible life purpose idea already, which you are executing.

@UnbornTao You have spent a few posts to appeal to my feelings, which are different than you imagine, and completely avoided making any kind of argument. You can say something substantial about examples I have given in my earlier or construct some argument why you are against psychedelics as a tool to explore consciousness. Otherwise I am not really interested in talking to you. You know, I have 4 other walls to talk to in my room.

@Razard86 Basically, yes. Some degree of mastery of logic is needed, otherwise you'll end up as a woo-woo unhinged hippie. It's also important not to go too far the other way around, or you will end up as a smart-ass with your stick up your ass way too far. But as you can often see, one doesn't necessarily has to be logical to be a dense person.

What you are doing is pure rhetoric, or rather a logical fallacy, trying to undermine my position by saying that I must doubt myself and still holding that position even though I have told you that's not a case, I am sure of myself. There's no logic or argument in that, just an appeal to my non-existing emotions. People on this forum do a shit-ton of logical fallacies, even in this thread there's a lot of them. I know, I know, logic is not the proper way to truth, etc. What I am saying is, before transcending it one should try to somewhat master it, because otherwise this transcendence is more like a regression. I think that's in part why Leo has released episodes about self-deception yeeaars ago and only dives into God stuff now. That's the proper order of mastering life.

The point is there is only one avatar with consciousness you can be sure of having consciousness, you. And if there are other consciousnesses, you can never be sure of their existence, because everything you encounter is your consciousness, you can't distinguish between your own consciousness and influence of some other consciousness. If I understand correctly Leo says a. Other consciousnesses probably exist, b. We can never be sure of it, c. It doesn't matter though, because God is Gods, Gods is God

Not really, there's a lot of quality Buddha at The Gas Pump podcast's guests, who have had comfy childhoods and lifes. The only guy I know in real life who went to realise this fantasy of going to Tibet to meditate in the mountains have also had a comfy life and has been a doctor before going on a journey. So, yeah I don't buy it. Your past is probably not corelated in that way with how spiritual you are.

How does that compute with your belief that the Earth can sustain 100 billion humans or something? It's a stance of integrity. I am not a killer and, I wouldn't want a system that forces anyone to become an executioner. It's not a matter of being Green, it's hard to find a doctor to administer the lethal dose even with Blue or Orange values system. There is relative harm in putting someone in prison, but it's somewhat reversible, not always, but sometimes. Death penalty is absolute harm, there's no undo button.

It's a circle, but there are so many of the circles that they are actually a sphere, but there are so many spheres and they are all touching that actually you can go in any direction.

Nothing. There's a lot of people on these forums with touchy-touchy stomachs. I am one of them, but don't give a heck about eating mushrooms. Altgough, I like the addition of lemon, and eating some ginger as a ritual.

@Leo Gura actual mushrooms are for people who like mushrooms and don't want to get involved in the grey or black market of drugs. All kinds of mushrooms are fun to grow. I like Oysters, they are like infinite food, tiny straw bale costs $1, add some corn or whatever and you get tens of kilos of protein and various other diet elements.

@Razard86 Make a tea, drink only liquid, throw out the rest of the mushroom without eating it. You get a bit less potency but don't eat the mushroom body. I personally find it pointless, cubensis seems in taste like a normal edible mushroom, it's not that terrible.

Can we stop playing this "I am now so Enlightened, wow" game? How many identical threads with people behaving in the same way do we need? Same old story. People grabbing for attention, this one I would say even unsuccessful compared to previous posters like this.

@UnbornTao What exactly? You have quoted nothing. I am a fervent zealot of Nothing. But on a serious note. No. Asking questions is a rhetorical device. I need no help in sorting my worldview, all good in here, thank you.

You mean a day before session, and then going there to integrate the experience? Then I think it's okay. Anything else I would consider stupid.