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Sounds interesting but why don't you want to share your way openly on this forum?

Oh ok then I am really overdoing it. What did you do back then? How often and what road of administration?

How do you come to this conclusion, what was your spiritual journey so far? What other way do you think for a human will get you to the highest state

@James123 thats your assumption. Vaping alone without 5 Meo in it causes headaches. So having headaches is not a clear sign of overdoing 5 Meo. It can have other causes. I just ask me if here on this forum besides Leo has also these side effects sometimes.

Haha I think we have different approaches.But I highly respect your way of doing that. For sure you will get more out of it than 100 low doses. I just have sometimes a recreational side in me. I want to enjoy the beauty of creation on this level

Please read my disclaimer

I should have mentioned that it was an afterglow effect which lasts for several hours up to a week after the trip. So if I get into this state I will be there at least for 3 hours

Imagine you are a tech freak and you are watching Steve Jobs introducing the first iPhone for the first time back then. Exactly that feeling of beauty and amazement about the intelligence of design. It's very energetic, like a light bulb in your head going on. You can feel electric explosions emerging in your head and waves wash over you like taking a shower of energy I can reproduce this sometimes with 5 Meo on low doses and this state is what I am looking for

With a vape pen you take a dose of 0.6 mg 5 Meo dmt. The effects on this low level are almost not noticable and even if, it's just for a minute and then wears off quickly

My assumption so far is that vaping with a vape pen alone brings headaches and has nothing to do with 5 Meo. If there are some others who experienced this besides Leo please share

You don't know what you are talking about. I can sense you have no experience with 5 Meo

I am not interested in mild effects. I want strong recreational effects. Full immersion. 5 Meo has the potential for that. Meditation is great but it doesn't come close at all to effects 5eo has The strongest music effect ever experienced was on a microdose of 5 Meo dmt. For me 5 meo feels healthy for the brain but since I switched to vaping I recognized these headaches

People here know that you are not awake but how on earth were you so sure about that back then? I know someone who also has this phase of believing something to be absolutely right and in this phase he is 100‰condfident. Some form of maniac he has

@khalifa do you have informed yourself about Kundalini awakening and do you think this could be the case

Oh man I read the reddit thread, these young people are not patient. One week is really nothing. I had hangover effects for over one week from some psychedelics.in this hangover week I also had these symptoms of being drained out, feeling empty and had headache.My cognitive function was also low.Most of it contributed to sleep deprivation from psychedelic combined with not drinking too much water and probably some energetic things from psychedelics. It goes away. Just chill a bit

That is a good point. Yes facilitators can be a real problem in this case.

Welcome to this forum! You are for sure on a journey like all the other forum members here more or less.

You are back again, thanks for this deep insight into self mastery! It makes a lot of sense. But what about other beings who cannot do really self mastery l. Like insects. What's their purpose

I would follow Martin Balls advice and would do another full release dose but I can understand your fear of playing Russian roulette again. This fear needw to be reduced first

What do you mean with I as god created everything. Do you realize only what is in front of you created or really everything (like the Jupiter, billions of other people etc)

@khalifa I know a handful closed friends who tried 5 Meo and myself. It's all what Leo promised and even more. These friends never watched actualized they just took the substance and were so thankful for it. Back to your problem. First step is contacting Martin Ball for a counseling session. The money is worth it. He is the absolute expert for 5 Meo dmt and provided over 8000 times 5 Meo dmt. He will know your case and will give you exactly the plan how to get out of it.

you are right from a lower level of consciousness. But he speaks from a deeper level. You cannot understand him from your level of consciousness, I hope he comes down to your level so an understanding is possible.

I got also kicked out of the astral plane, at the end I was just a mad man, randomly molesting astral beauties. I thought this place is boring, what else is here to do?

It happens days before. I get nervous Breakthwork directly before helps against nervous thoughts

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