OBEler

First Video. It's really sad that some people think this can be real. This puppet alien with such a b movie voice.

@Sincerity sorry when this gets too Private but can you Name exactly what Was previously meaning full to you and then became total pointless? Were it small things like realizing it doesnt matter if your favorite Sport teams wins or not?

@Sincerity can you elaborate? For me spirituality, exploring consciousness, developing my mind and body gives me high meaning in life. Dont know how psychedelics could undermine these, they even raise my meaning more the more I take

@Leo Gura in what terms? Is it because of brain chemistry like less dopamin or because these states you were in were so high that things we can archive as humans seem less profound or because you can look through your ego and see that this ego tries to create meaning where there is no meaning really so you dont perceive such a pressure anymore ?

@LSD-Rumi you need to differentiate between normal dose and low dose 5 meo. On low dose, 5 meo dmt can be very therapeutic and you can release stored energy. This is key. These emotional patterns need to be released. That can be harsh sometimes but you will feel lighter after. If he is ready to encounter these stored energys, 5 meo is one of the best tools here. Nothing will be smooth if you work with psychedelics, only these dissociate components like ketamin. But even there you can expect fear coming up. So dont choose the smoothest easiest psychedelic. Choose those which heals you the most, even if they are harsh. You will get over it if you dont take too much.

Your psychotherapist has a bias against psychedelics. Because She handle daily with people who come to her with a broken mind (some of them through psychedelic abuse),but the people who help themselves with psychedelics successsfully she will not see, because a psychotherapist is mostly not needed anymore. Psychedelics are great tools for healing trauma. If you stick to low dose at beginning, it will be save as long as you have no schizophrenia or are deeply deluded or have a tendency to hurt yourself with Intention. 5 meo dmt or malt low dose is a great choise. You will be not functional for 20 minutes as a beginner but after it's over, no problem. Truffles are not as effective as 5 meo but also a good tool for exploring childhood trauma. Raise your dose until you feel a level where you can work with. A normal dose is mostly needed

If you are grounded I would start with psychedelics. They are the most effective tools. I personally prepare with malt for leo's upcoming course. This is a great motivation for me

So predictable, reminds me of someone who escaped scientology. See what happens then

@bensenbiz ok, start then with 1,5 mg plugged hope you have 3mg cups, thats around 1,5 mg weight

@bensenbiz Start with 3 mg plugged. Then 6 mg. Then 1,5 mg steps upwards to around 10 mg It depends how sensitive you are. Sensitive people feel effect on 3 mg

This exact question I ask me too, Thanks for creating this thread. People will have their Tools with heroic doses of combination of substances to reach infinity. Even with lsd it's possible. But I think it will not be so clear and smooth like malt

@bensenbiz Yes you should be worried if you dont go slowly. 5 meo is no joke if you are not carefully planning. You can scream your lungs out at your first breakthrough. I highly recommend taking Mdma (120 mg crystal) and directly after the peak is over (1.5-2hours in) take a breakthrough dose of 5 meo dmt. Then you will have almost Zero resistance and no fear, it will be smoth. Still expect fear and welcome it (if there should be still something arise) But before you do this trip on low doses 5 meo alone.

@JJfromSwitzerland why do you feel better about this video?

5 meo mipt will not skullfucl you on low/normal dose but on high dose. 5 meo mipt is one of my favorite psychedelics. It is under top three and on its own category so nothing will replace 5 meo mipt. Nothing. Not even Mdma, you cannot get such genuine love with Mdma. It's 1000 times better It's is incredible smooth and friendly on low /normal dose. Just be careful every mg counts here (stay under 14 mg oral). It is potent. A Friend of mine had an full body orgasms, every cell was exploding it was one of his best moments in life. 5 meo mipt is like activating your kundalini energy. Very sexual, erotic feeling. Also great for taking with a Partner. You dont get visuals like lsd on lower doses, just this energy and you are clear headed and full under control. I think for Yoga it will be also great. Take it oral, not plugging. I dont see a difference and oral is even stronger I think on this substance for whatever reason. Overall I highly recommend this substance to everyone, even for beginners (If they dose not too high!!).

@Holykael@Holykael I think you have depersonialization and derealization, too. But misinterpret it as spiritual awakening @KatiesKarma

@KatiesKarma this is cruital to understand what happend to you. I need exact description what happend before during and after this strange Event where you saw impossible videos@KatiesKarma

What Do you mean by that, can you elaborate?

@John Iverson you can do that but it will be a full time job. I had obe s. It is very time consuming to produce one and not really rewarding at all. Not as a beginner

@Leo Gura @Fluran I dont know how I would handle solipsism, no self, no others. Thats what I will discover when I go higher. I try it to understand these intellectually and I contemplate what that would mean for my life and how I would live after discovering this truth. I have too many attachments in my life. Could I still see my girlfriend the same way? Is her experience not there? I dont know..solipsism sounds for me like the worst nightmare comes true. Thats what hinders me to go further.

@Fluran Thats good advice, thank you! I plugged yesterday (28 hours passed since last trip) 9 mg 5 meo Malt. And I got effects like I expected from 9 mg. I saw no light, no breakthrough but some good insights about importance of friendship and creation of thoughts. 5 meo Malt is like Leo said more softer. I had feeling of controlling this trip but I know in higher doses this will not be possible anymore.

@Leo Gura ok maybe I need to try nasal spray then. Maybe the absorption there is more predictable I dont like it to prepare for a trip with low doses and random chance is 50% that I get effects or not

@Derek White I think you have bias here. You cannot blame leo's teachings not working for you if you dont even do the practice. He said over and over again that you cannot understand his work then when he has deeper topics. "What they do and what Leo does is experience some insight in the psychedelic state and then make conclusions from that and speak about it after from memory." Nope. Truth can stay. It might not stick with one or two insights but after many awakenings you will experience reality from truth. You need to embody and integrate the insights on psychedelics then it will happen. No one here said just take psychedelics and thats it. Contemplation and Integration work after are cruitial. You have a very shallow perspective on psychedelics, but thats not a surprise for someone who never took one.

@Fluran it cannot be measurement. Dosage is very accurate. I use 1,5 mg scopes and weight always the same. With my eyes I also can see that 3 mg is not 6 mg. Mood was always the same. I am stable. Only difference is, that I tripped together with someone else vs alone. When I did 6 mg alone two times I felt nothing.

@Leo Gura hmmm Peter Ralston says the same I think. You and Peter Ralston are then on a same level when it comes to this specific Issue. Got to read his book again

@Leo Gura Yeah I think here lies the misunderstanding. You talk about awakening which is 100% direct, but sometimes you talk about abstract perspectives. Peter Ralston switches also between these two. So if someone has a spiritual question, it can be answered from the perspective of awakening or with abstract perspectives. Abstract perspectives are fantasys, but might be true (some of them never can be validated) . Awakening perspective is 100% true always. I hope I got it