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@Adamq8 Once upon a time a screen thought there was a movie. ?

@Arugoel https://youtu.be/1TxOmW3Iz_c

@Adamq8 ‘They’ don’t ‘dissolve into consciousness’. That’d be two. Nothing is undeniable.

@Rubywoo Welcome Home. ? If you think of your boyfriend as a separate self, that feels off. If you think he’s hurt by the removal essentially of ‘your’ love, that feels off. If you see that he too can open this present, that feels pretty nice.

When you turn a light off in a room, there’s no more room. But you don’t add a narrative about how a you or a room dies. And the room certainly doesn’t add the narrative that it’s thinking.

@GreenWoods Another great thread. ??

Well said.

@PurpleTree If you were trying to overcome your hands, probably not gonna happen. But perspectives can be changed. Unless one focuses on the same perspective, in an attempt to overcome it.

@Endangered-EGO Awesome insights. ??

@PurpleTree Looking in dualistic thoughts, in the ‘this’s or that’s’ of thought, or, in the ‘true insights or delusional insights’… for Truth… is the very activity of thought which is the veil of The Truth, of The Oneness. The ‘you’ of thoughts, and the ‘oneness’ of thoughts. Through this thought (duality) believing & sorting lens, one convincingly experiences as if the Oneness comes & goes… was realized in a past (you & a past) and thus a way to realize in the future (you & a future) is longed for. This perpetuates the veiling mental activity of a ‘you & The Truth’. The believing of the ‘this or that-ing’ is the believing of one’s own defining & defending. Thus it seems there is a you and and store, and not simply Truth… a you and an inside, and not simply Truth, a you and a sales person, and not simply Truth, a you and a website, and not simply Truth, a you and clothing, and not simply Truth, a you and this level, and not simply Truth, a you in time, and not simply Truth, a you and time, and not simply Truth, a you which replicates, and not simply Truth, a you and God realization, and not simply Truth. A you and insights & visions, and not simply Truth. Imagining there are insights & visions, defining them as ‘not me’… ‘they’ seem to stand to deliver or bring about the Oneness sought. But the Oneness sought is perpetually held at bay, apart, seemingly, only by the thoughts being believed... about “the oneness”, or “Truth”. Infinite can not know finite.

You can’t be them by definition.

@Terell Kirby The forum seems helpful. That could’ve went on for ‘years’.

@PurpleTree The Truth. Why else? Might be easier than you think (and define ‘things’).

Yes.

Can you overcome your perspective? Or is overcome a perspective, like shame?

…and not even.

@PurpleTree You’re imagining there are “insights” & “visions”. By definition this is delusional.

The only way this can be a dream is if there is not a this or a dream. (Imo) Investigate every single one of those inquires. Don’t settle for conjecture. ??

Reality’s so preposterous.

@Someone here Great realization.

@Albert Roiterstein The double slit experiment. Convincing others would be conflictual though, as there is a ‘deeper’ implication (and hopefully revelation) in regard to the findings of that experiment. Also, look into ‘quantum erasure’.

@catcat69123 ?? @fopylo Also comes to mind… the approach of “the secret”. Sometimes when we haven’t yet accepted something about ourselves we make a secret out of it in a way, and feel ashamed, and don’t want anyone to ‘find out’ or know our secret and judge or not accept us. This can make it seem like we have to be overly critical and always on guard so no one finds out. But no matter what, if it is, whatever it is, it is something to embrace, love, & nourish. Often, the more unique / rare / or specific whatever the aspect could be, the more we ‘keep the secret’. But in truth, the variety, the uniqueness of us, both in our preferences and our experiences, is the greatest.

Care more about how you feel than what other people might think. Notice that’s always what you’re thinking, and in owning the judgment it ‘come into the light of awareness’… and the emotions and specifically doubt are clearer. As in, you begin to realize how you are creating how you feel, and you lean toward not judging yourself via what you think other people might think. Inspect the fear on paper, not ‘in your head’. Write about what you’re afraid of. If you do this thoroughly what you were afraid of disappears / is realized to only have been what you were focusing on / thinking. I’d also write about relationships with parents etc growing up, and look to discover and realize things like where the focus on needing validation or approval began. That can also help unravel it. Also you mentioned when talking with people it’s hard to focus on yourself. Try not trying to focus on yourself. Be curious, inquisitive, interested in someone while talking with them. Ask them questions about themself or their experiences, or simply how they like this or that. Use that engagement as a break from focusing on yourself, and feel the relief of doing so. Also, don’t use other people’s concepts like authority, authenticity, survival, realness, etc against yourself, or, as your means to create doubt or impatience. Use the emotional scale, it works. Start with whatever emotion you’re experiencing, like fear or doubt, and express that you are feeling it, and then express that when you feel that emotion, you feel the next one higher on the scale. Finish the scale each time you use it / go all the way to the top. And don’t skip any emotions on the scale. Also comes to mind, from Byron Katie, there is your business, their business & God’s business. I think that is a clear way to frame up experience for you presently. Gotta let other people’s thoughts & words be their business. You could also try exposure. Bring to mind what you’re afraid of someone saying to you, and have someone say it to you. You might feel the trigger or reaction. Then relax the whole body and feel breathing from your stomach, so you can see & experience that the reaction comes & goes. You’ll see more clearly how & why it’s triggering. Repeat that until you’re not triggered, but feeling lighter and hopefully laughing as it clicks that there’s just no use in trying to control what you have no control over (what anyone thinks or says). And there is much use in controlling what you do have control over (what you think, focus on, and say). It’s a bit like having a fear of bee’s, and then just purposefully getting stung. It stings, but you realize it’s not as bad as you were making it out to be. But you gotta do / experience this stuff. Just thinking about it doesn’t change anything.

Infinite can not know finite.

@blessedlion1993 The difference between focus on escaping X vs creating Y seems subtle but is not. It is actually thee difference. Focusing on escaping is focusing on the absence of, or the no longer experiencing of, what you don’t want. Not that I’m trying to push any specific avenue, but the stress doesn’t come from the managing, but from the lens, from what and the way one is interpreting & focusing.