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@PurpleTree Looking in dualistic thoughts, in the ‘this’s or that’s’ of thought, or, in the ‘true insights or delusional insights’… for Truth… is the very activity of thought which is the veil of The Truth, of The Oneness. The ‘you’ of thoughts, and the ‘oneness’ of thoughts. Through this thought (duality) believing & sorting lens, one convincingly experiences as if the Oneness comes & goes… was realized in a past (you & a past) and thus a way to realize in the future (you & a future) is longed for. This perpetuates the veiling mental activity of a ‘you & The Truth’. The believing of the ‘this or that-ing’ is the believing of one’s own defining & defending. Thus it seems there is a you and and store, and not simply Truth… a you and an inside, and not simply Truth, a you and a sales person, and not simply Truth, a you and a website, and not simply Truth, a you and clothing, and not simply Truth, a you and this level, and not simply Truth, a you in time, and not simply Truth, a you and time, and not simply Truth, a you which replicates, and not simply Truth, a you and God realization, and not simply Truth. A you and insights & visions, and not simply Truth. Imagining there are insights & visions, defining them as ‘not me’… ‘they’ seem to stand to deliver or bring about the Oneness sought. But the Oneness sought is perpetually held at bay, apart, seemingly, only by the thoughts being believed... about “the oneness”, or “Truth”. Infinite can not know finite.

You can’t be them by definition.

@Terell Kirby The forum seems helpful. That could’ve went on for ‘years’.

@PurpleTree The Truth. Why else? Might be easier than you think (and define ‘things’).

Yes.

Can you overcome your perspective? Or is overcome a perspective, like shame?

…and not even.

@PurpleTree You’re imagining there are “insights” & “visions”. By definition this is delusional.

The only way this can be a dream is if there is not a this or a dream. (Imo) Investigate every single one of those inquires. Don’t settle for conjecture. ??

Reality’s so preposterous.

@Someone here Great realization.

@Albert Roiterstein The double slit experiment. Convincing others would be conflictual though, as there is a ‘deeper’ implication (and hopefully revelation) in regard to the findings of that experiment. Also, look into ‘quantum erasure’.

@catcat69123 ?? @fopylo Also comes to mind… the approach of “the secret”. Sometimes when we haven’t yet accepted something about ourselves we make a secret out of it in a way, and feel ashamed, and don’t want anyone to ‘find out’ or know our secret and judge or not accept us. This can make it seem like we have to be overly critical and always on guard so no one finds out. But no matter what, if it is, whatever it is, it is something to embrace, love, & nourish. Often, the more unique / rare / or specific whatever the aspect could be, the more we ‘keep the secret’. But in truth, the variety, the uniqueness of us, both in our preferences and our experiences, is the greatest.

Care more about how you feel than what other people might think. Notice that’s always what you’re thinking, and in owning the judgment it ‘come into the light of awareness’… and the emotions and specifically doubt are clearer. As in, you begin to realize how you are creating how you feel, and you lean toward not judging yourself via what you think other people might think. Inspect the fear on paper, not ‘in your head’. Write about what you’re afraid of. If you do this thoroughly what you were afraid of disappears / is realized to only have been what you were focusing on / thinking. I’d also write about relationships with parents etc growing up, and look to discover and realize things like where the focus on needing validation or approval began. That can also help unravel it. Also you mentioned when talking with people it’s hard to focus on yourself. Try not trying to focus on yourself. Be curious, inquisitive, interested in someone while talking with them. Ask them questions about themself or their experiences, or simply how they like this or that. Use that engagement as a break from focusing on yourself, and feel the relief of doing so. Also, don’t use other people’s concepts like authority, authenticity, survival, realness, etc against yourself, or, as your means to create doubt or impatience. Use the emotional scale, it works. Start with whatever emotion you’re experiencing, like fear or doubt, and express that you are feeling it, and then express that when you feel that emotion, you feel the next one higher on the scale. Finish the scale each time you use it / go all the way to the top. And don’t skip any emotions on the scale. Also comes to mind, from Byron Katie, there is your business, their business & God’s business. I think that is a clear way to frame up experience for you presently. Gotta let other people’s thoughts & words be their business. You could also try exposure. Bring to mind what you’re afraid of someone saying to you, and have someone say it to you. You might feel the trigger or reaction. Then relax the whole body and feel breathing from your stomach, so you can see & experience that the reaction comes & goes. You’ll see more clearly how & why it’s triggering. Repeat that until you’re not triggered, but feeling lighter and hopefully laughing as it clicks that there’s just no use in trying to control what you have no control over (what anyone thinks or says). And there is much use in controlling what you do have control over (what you think, focus on, and say). It’s a bit like having a fear of bee’s, and then just purposefully getting stung. It stings, but you realize it’s not as bad as you were making it out to be. But you gotta do / experience this stuff. Just thinking about it doesn’t change anything.

Infinite can not know finite.

@blessedlion1993 The difference between focus on escaping X vs creating Y seems subtle but is not. It is actually thee difference. Focusing on escaping is focusing on the absence of, or the no longer experiencing of, what you don’t want. Not that I’m trying to push any specific avenue, but the stress doesn’t come from the managing, but from the lens, from what and the way one is interpreting & focusing.

What seems to be thought about (infinite being) isn’t thought about, but is appearing as “thoughts”.

@Kalki Avatar It is at first, but simply for how it feels, one tends to ‘go less into it’. Like an event is experienced in such a way there is emotional discord for days. Then later, maybe a day. Then an hour, then just minutes, then in real time, aligned.

No ya didn’t. I understand you believe you did, but you didn’t. Lol no it wasn’t. No it didn’t & wasn’t actually. No, ya didn’t. ? no it doesn’t. Actually it totally did. Not even possible!

That’s nuts.

I hope the rest of this day is the best day you ever experienced.

Didn’t lift a finger, didn’t do anything at all, literally. Simply sat on the cushion like any other morning. But, I never heard any of what you mentioned above, so there was no story about me, God, dying, etc, etc, playing in my mind, which was perfectly empty from the daily meditation. Empty your cup. Try to actually notice none of that stuff is actually happening. It’s literally just thoughts about. Like a narration of a movie. Super simple… same ‘answer’ / ‘solution’ every time… just return attention to feeling breathing from the stomach. You could turn making a paper airplane into a college course at this rate. ? Lighten up and have a laugh… “who exactly am I even talking about which is selfish?!” … “Why am I even thinking that, focusing on that, thinking that way?!?” (And laugh) That you’re giving up anything is a thought. Meditation is most ideal for thought attachment.

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How you sleep is fine, how you feel when you wake up is fine, where you live is fine, whatever thoughts arise, it’s fine. Take every bit of focus on that it isn’t, and focus instead on the feeling of having what you prefer more. Your experience will become that. There is no other possibility, as this has been the case since day 1.

Thanks, appreciate it, but… I didn’t have anything figured out, and I never adopted the lenses of toxic or luck. Yes, loa, dreamboard - vibration. ‘Beneath’ a direct belief of the outward (perspective one is aware of), is an indirect implication belief of the inward (emotion one is aware of). For example my dad had his issues, anger, blame etc, but I didn’t choose to see him as an abuser because the indirect implication is I’m a victim. If I had, and I realized that, I’d have changed the belief via the realization, and what I attract would change in kind - in parallel - simultaneously. It’s always how one see’s oneself so to speak. The relationship if you will between you and source. ? Perception & thought are obviously convincing, but it’s never actually about either. It’s up to you and how you think about freedom. As an extreme polar opposite example, some people mentally hold that they are not so free because they didn’t have kids or a family. Again, that’s between you & source, not you and someone else’s opinion. It’s most beautiful in my experience. Easily above all else. But again, you gotta be true to you and where you’re at in life & on your path. Sounds like you are getting clearer by the minute imo. When you put the toxic lens down, like magic there are no toxic “others” anymore, never were actually. This does however bring shadow work to the surface to be let go of, but, that’s ideal ime. Consider, somewhere there’s someone to whom you are toxic. Wild, no? It’s really just unchecked judgement.