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@okulele Great report man! Sounds a little nuts!

@Monkey-man no.

@Charlotte What’s the current living situation? Does he have a job? Could he find a place to rent? Is he your responsibility, or are you your responsibility?

@Leo-Tzu 6 days a week, 6 mls / 50 minutes, elliptical & ipad,choc almond milk latte, protein shake.

@Joseph Maynor I really liked that. Thanks

@FeelFree I don’t understand it anymore than I am enlightened, but I enjoy them and have been actively interested in both for many years. I’m assuming you’re talking about qm’s (vs physics). Forgive me if my assumption is wrong. I think Neils Bohr is my favorite. He was one smart dude: I discovered Bohr when I was into reading about Einstein. I remember reading their famous (I think) convo after the Copenhagen gathering, when they were reeling in the ‘results’ of their lab test on Young’s double slit & kicking off superposition, and Einstein asks Bohr if he really believes the moon’s not there when he’s not looking at it, I think Einstein says something like God does not play dice with the universe (confirming his determinism) and Bohr says, don’t tell God what to do. I thought, this Bohr guy’s an arrogant idiot! I was so happy when I discovered I was the arrogant idiot! QM’s was not shocking to me for years of learning about it, then one day, on a trip, glad I had it in the foundation, very shocking indeed. How about you? Got a favorite? What turned you on to it?

@Dodo Makes sense. Lol. Jk. Nicknames are funny... Namaste

@Dodo lol. Yeah. Or, maybe there never was a dodo, and it is representative within the illusion. Cavemen too perhaps. Even me, maybe. What do I represent to you, if anything?

@erik8lrl Damn!!! What a trip! It’s so funny I’m not even laughing, and it’s so true it’s fuckin hilarious! Thanks for sharing it. Love the poetry too!

With religion, “X”, is the dogma. With LOA, “X” is what you want. Not what someone wants for you, wants you to have, wants you to do, wants you to give, wants you to help them with. ”X” is what YOU want. Perhaps loa is bunk to you because you haven’t taken time to distinguish what it is you want? Shot in the dark. Hopefully helpful, vs argumentative. ❤️ If the dodo practiced loa, would it be extinct? Lol

@LRyan I wonder about this. There is the ultimate no meaning, but meaning assigned, or meaning relative to the person dreaming and matter? I wonder. I had one dream in recent years, and it was about @egoless. Weird and funny right? The dream was like one of those rare immediate action inspirations, where you think about it after you do it. I woke up directly from the dream and sent a message to him. So, he’s in a position to weigh in on your topic I think. Perhaps it was a profound experience, perhaps it was meaningless. I do wonder.

@egoless I think it’s worth a glance, for the sake of pro-loa, that there is ultimately no difference between belief and knowledge. I look for the distinction between belief and experience, and I call ‘that’ known to me. Perhaps nothing can be known but the Truth it’s self, revealing all knowledge is not true. If knowledge were truth, how could loa be possible? I like how Dave Matthews put it - “In the end, it all piles up to one big nothing-at-all.” “We are innocent instead” So, back to loa - “Seek up an emotion” “Forget about the reasons and the treasons we are seeking”. We are innocent.

@Leo Gura ?

@JustinS Hell yeah man. ❤️ It is really funny.

I’m not sure what you mean by ‘my God’. There’s just the One. Any word could be applied. The word applied is, absolute. That’s not arbitrary. I like the word God better, but it twists connotation panties. I think that misery / hamster wheel thing is a fork in the road of go forward though it, or stop and set up camp. I don’t understand “beliefs of Truth”. To me, a belief of anything is still belief. Maybe I am heavy handed conversationally with the separation of beliefs and truth, but it’s here , on a forum, about Truth, and it’s fun. I am with you on freedom. It’s mentally delicious. Physiologically satisfying. I always found a roller coaster in desire and suffering. I wanted to have desire without suffering. I wanted to experience the truth for myself. I did. I now have desire (which is inherent), incredible desire, without the suffering I unknowingly applied all by myself before. I have this because I experienced the absolute. There is no suffering in the illusion now. I respect your power of mind though. I did not have that, so I was really never content before. Now, I am content with what is, because I see what is. Human wise, bigger picture, we’re both very happy with where we’re at. What a beautiful thing!!!

@JustinS You gave up before you got “there”. That’s not it. That’s conceptual. If you reached the “end”, “completing the loop” your sentiment would be very different. Just a suggestion, but look at your finger right now, and ask it “how funny are you”?

@SOUL Yeah, I hear that. Encountered a lot of flavors of that. I can only speak from where I’m at in life, but just to me, that is dogma, which is just very very different from the absolute / God within. It’s like someone experiences it, tells someone, and then dude #2 writes a whole dogma about it. Self inquiry / direct experience always seems to rise as the only way.

@Mighty Mouse Thanks. Very interesting views. Did you arrive at those perspectives after you experienced the absolute or before?

@SOUL right on. Drive safe man. ❤️

@SOUL Dude, I’m fascinated by what you are saying, but your statements seem conflicted. Are you willing to elaborate a little? How it absolute is a ideal, and how exactly it is sold, and how it is taught? No offensive. I am really intrigued.

@SOUL You think the absolute is an ‘ideal’?

@Leo Gura Don’t think of a pink elephant. And thanks a lot.

Miracles happen everyday - just look at your own finger!!!!! After miracles happen, they are easily explainable - that’s the mindfuck, not the potentiality. Loa is the most fundamental, intimately personal topic I know of. It’s like awareness to a muggle.

@zazed There is no transformation or change the first you can do to become everything. How do you know? I think maybe you’re elaborating on what Jo is presenting. I think he’s looking for the resolve, or ‘how it is these two are in fact one’? Let me know if I’m wrong about that @Joseph Maynor @SOUL How is that a paradox?