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@Joseph Maynor Dang it. Enlightenment is binary, and ultimately it’s not. It’s like saying that you were born is binary. Awareness in incremental. Ego dismantle is incremental too. It’s a classic case of both and neither. Lol. (IMO) Bad habits, shit beliefs, idiotic Ego attachments, stupid fears and superstitions, backward culture — all these take the rest of your life to root out and let go. imo, the bad habits don’t go, but are more easily changed...all the rest of that does go though. In one, binary, experience.

@Deep awww Deep!! Lol. Noooooooo ❤️

@Faceless Not trying to push ya, I hear you. I do want to clarify though, my intention was not a set up so to speak, asking for anyone to state wether or not they are enlightened. I get that. I was hoping we could share our actual enlightenment experience with each other. I’m more interested in that, then who can win the word battle. I’m probably the odd man out in that way right now though.

@BobbyLowell You can’t literally ‘become’ likable. “Liking you” is up to others, not you. Put how you feel as a higher (the highest) priority, and ironically, you’ll be more liked. There is an underlying attraction (non sexual) between people that is powerful. Frequencies attract to higher frequencies naturally, cause we all want to be happy. Happy people have much easier lives anyways. They’re like candles to moths.

@SOUL @Faceless @Shanmugam Seems like someone is stating they don’t want help, and someone is trying to help none the less. That semantic discourse, imo, is what’s been at play for the majority of this thread. Any chance you guys would share your personal story of your actual experience of enlightenment? Not so much what it’s like now, or the path, but the experience itself, when it ‘happened’? I think that would allow a much deeper understanding of where each other are coming from. The meanings behind the words would come out. Otherwise, it’s kind of a circle jerk. Not that there’s anything wrong with a circle jerk. Lol I know what is meant by the binary moment, there’s no question about God, the universe, my life, etc after that moment. But most people haven’t had that experience. So there’s a lot of back and forth with out every simply stating what it is we are talking about. Or tell me to piss off, too, that’s cool also.

@Preetom thanks for triggering me❤️

@Preetom I’m saying, they are two in the same. And that is beautiful, what you just said. Thanks for that.

@Joseph Maynor ??. #metoo. lol! ❤️❣️ Also, there’s no such thing as mass enlightenment. When you are free, all there is, is free. @Preetom

@Preetom Imagine you are the divine love and nothing else. And that everything sensed is your illusion. Hold that perspective to the best of your ability and let thinking fall away. Connect to the heart. Imagine that because you are aware of this, you perceive, naturally, someone asking questions, as an appearance in your own illusion, who is you, infinite love, but doesn’t know it. They think they’re the person in your illusion, so they, of course, have questions. See the humor in these....? ; ”when I am without my ignorance, will I know it?” ”How can there be infinite intelligence in DNA?” ”When I achieve the ultimate enlightenment, what will I know?” ?

@Preetom Yes! ❤️

@Joseph Maynor That could be a very very helpful realization of projection.

@MarkusSweden I think I’m hearing you on this Jim and where the world’s at. Like, you’re talking about him as a marker relative to the population median with suffering..? Personally, I have always loved Jim. I was a serious kid, teen, young adult - and I felt the authenticism in Jim’s goofiness even though I didn’t comprehend it. To me, just where I’m at, he’s leading, by too much. People need to let go, suffer less - get from 100 down to like 70....Jim’s at 0 and he’s loving it. I love to see him loving life. And the problems of the world; to me it’s like playing a video game. We like the excitement and drama, until it’s a little too much, and we’re a little too disconnected. So, then, we can take a break from it, meditate etc. This is life, and death. Experience, and contemplation / integration.

@WildeChilde anytime man. Godspeed with the situation. ❤️

Establish real love for yourself, and with the world. Then you can do anything.

@Shanmugam Thanks for everything you shared here so openly.?

@Heart of Space I get you man. And thanks. And I love those posts, they’re really my favorites, don’t get me wrong. Shit dude I was all choked up reading yours! I think every breakthrough is cause for celebration. I really do. I’m vicarious about it. Lol. My heart goes out to those who try to take away from it. It’s just that if we say it’s a digital, unenlightened or enlightened, I think we’re sending a message that makes it harder for us to stay on the practices after a breakthrough, and it triggers our ego’s by trying to claim we’re on the ‘right’ side of the on/off. Most of all though, it subtly drains a little energy. It’s not agreeable to the source we all are. I can feel it when I contemplate it. We can’t consider an eternal infinite intelligence within us to be of two ways, or black and white, and expect to conntinue to know it more deeply. It is always on the move. I am also moving ahead, and behind, where I authentically am, on the daily - there’s always more love and more awareness to be experienced in my opinion. Please smack me on the head as needed as well. Often two or three times in necessary, thanks.

@Serotoninluv Have you looked into epigenetics by chance? Just a thought, in terms of a potential bridge for coworkers, helping them to move out of their current paradigm a little. The movie Heal might be a great tool also. It’s an uplifting paradigm shifter. Really subtle. A while back, I pulled a couple ‘Jim Carreys’ and learned people think it’s flat out crazy to see that there isn’t really any thing such as random, so, I’m loving what you’re saying about random, and if we knew the quadrillions of data, is it really ‘random’... .....If we did have all that data, computed, what would it lead to? Like, where do you think it would end? @d0ornokey What you were asking about infinite intelligence...what if you saw it, and could look at it, and zoom in, what would you find?

@WildeChilde I can relate to working in business, but I don’t relate to participating in lying and cut throat behaviors. Can you share more? What is the lying you’re having to do about? Lying to coworkers, employer, customers? I have been in business for 30 years. I have found people with integrity, honesty, kind & genuine people, are the best leaders and are the hardest to find and most sought after (of course some analytical mind & long term thinking are needed too). I’m speculating, but, maybe it’s the specific industry you’re in? Maybe it’s the company you’re working at? I wonder if you’d be better off working for yourself. Sounds like you’re getting a lot of exposure to the environment you don’t want, which I think is very useful in knowing what you do want. One of my companies is an insurance agency. Insurance sales is right up there with lawyers & politicians, and far as people’s preconceived notions of scamming , lying, cheating, etc. This is the perfect scenario though, I find, because when someone senses I actually care about them and their well being, they tend to stick with you, and tell others. I’m not saying this to toot my own horn, but to express, there might be a goldmine within your own day to day that is a matter of perspective and authenticity.

@Timotheus suffering is illusion. absolute is reality. experiencing absolute reveals this. I could not possibly recomend it enough.

@Timotheus What are you talking about dude? I don’t get it.

@Phill SIlence says more in that situation. If you say something, it’s actually confusing to her, because to her, now it’s about you and her. If you just don’t say anything, and keep yourself feelin fine (no animosity) she’ll feel the gravity of her complaining. In the big picture, I feel for ya. When they won’t move forward, and you don’t want to go on without them that life gets pretty interesting.

@Timotheus WHere did the ‘infinite amount of suffering’ idea come from?

@Timotheus How so? Where you coming from on that? Terrifying, in the sense, you will go through all of your fears to experience it? Or do you think the absolute is terrifying?

@ExodiaGearCEO You’re staring a business because you know what you don’t want. What is it that you don’tt want? If not for this, you’d still be not starting a business. What you don’t want brings clarity to what you do want. “Money” doesn’t satisfy as an answer. I find freedom is inspiring and motivating. Even the simple freedom of not working for a moron.

@SgtPepper From your pic, you don’t mind some shrooms once and a while. Have you experienced absolute yet?