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@Arthur Me too. I see there are some masters, of masters, of marketing. We’ll see though. Maybe.

@Mikael89 Yes. You?

@Mikael89 That reality is subjective, and you aren’t aware of that, is exactly what would prevent that. ❤️

@Anton Rogachevski Ok, I hear you. After around 20 years of meditation, one misc day, sat down to meditate and boom, no self happened in an instant - I was a blubbering blissful fool for a week, and was never that previous ‘guy’ again. My eyes were opened, I was all ears - spirituality was real. Reality, life, was so much different, so clear, so connected - I had to know and experience everything there was to this spirituality once that happened. So I researched quantum physics, religions, etc, etc..then I came accross Leo on Youtube. Then this forum. I read about psychedelics. I had no idea man. Hugely eye opening for me. I had tried a little shrooms 20 years prior, basically as a kid, I had no idea there was a connection to spirituality. I had thought of them as just another ‘drug’. But I listened, and I got it though, and started the adventure. About 15 - 20 incrementally wise, diligently prepared trips later - BOOOOOM - first nondual seeing. Saw what I am. The actual Self, The One. Actual Reality. Infinity. No one could have told me what psychedelics really were. No one could have told me what I really am. Never would I have had any understanding of what the word “enlightenment” was actually pointing to. Never. No chance whatsoever. I thought it was ‘something about the buddha’, cause he was wise & giving. Lol. TLDR: Psychedelics. asap. Responsibly. Do not spend 20 years only meditating like I did. Why, is not communicable. You’ll only know “why”, after. You are more than ready. Fear, self doubt, any sense of lack, over thinking, anxiety, depresssion - suffering: gone. I don’t remember them.

Music is poetry & melody.

If there’s an objective alien, then subjectively, to the alien, you are an alien. But then if you’re an alien, then obviously aliens exist. Unless of course, “exist” is entirely subjective. If reality is subjective, are there ‘other’ animals, humans, etc? Wouldn’t an ‘other’, whatever it is, require reality to be objective? If reality is subjective, it’s really not “reality” anymore. It’s you. If it’s entirely subjective, then it is only subjective, to you. This would mean everything seen & heard, is somehow you. But if everything seen & heard is you, then you must not only be a person, as it seems. But if you’re not a person, because reality is subjective, you’d have to be everything seen & heard. But if you’re everything, to experience every thing, you would have to be no thing, which of course means there would have to be no thing. If there’s no thing, then what is seen & heard? @Strikr Could pure magic even be a belief though? Isn’t it the same as “I don’t know”, or “I can’t know”? Like, as a descriptive term, “magic” is like saying, “I have no knowledge which accounts for this experience, I don’t even have beliefs which “explain” it, even if I acknowledge it’s a belief”. I agree with both of you though.

“Is there a pre-stage required in life to start seeking Enlightenment ?” Forgetting = Life.

What if there actually is no objective relative reality? What would that mean, relative to aliens?

@Serotoninluv nice! A broad stroke might be that orange is focused on their own situation, head down - ‘getting ahead’, ‘making their mark’, moving beyond / transcending the blue pack - then once they have, doing the self discovery that blue doesn’t realize is possible yet, - then they lift their head up so to speak and start to apply focus to other than themself, the world and society, because they’ve seen part of blue is heavy ideologies & nationalities, etc. They’re inclined to spread awareness about this, which is green. Or another view, blue isn’t satisfied with ‘falling in line’, with blue consciousness, “there must be more” - so the orange adventure begins. Once they’ve become their own orange hero, they start to feel inclined to give & share, to help others. In this way, green is more developed as orange see’s more ‘every man for himself’, and green see’s some futility in that, as ‘we’re all in this together.

Dang, I put too much Wu in it.

@Aaron p ??❤️ Awesome. I’m playin too. I just want ya to discover that love that slaps the words right outta the mouth. I suppose I want everyone to know. ???❤️

@Serotoninluv yes! ???

@Serotoninluv Or a Wuuthie.

@Gneh Onebar Interesting question. Also, it can be extracted to liquid by boiling, Would continuing to boil remove almost all of the water? I would not ‘just try it’ to find out btw. Substances are definitly not all received the same by different orifices.

@Gligorije The answer is the relativity to your own meaning for “more developed”.

This is what’s within? This profanity, this sexual enuendo, this “#reg like”? Keep going.

Or when you already know every word is bs. It makes it much easier to identify and discard what is not even relative (over thinking).

@Shin A.05. How much they are sold for together is inconsequential / unrelative. B. Yes. It’s yes wether Lea is married or not. It’s a matter of which ‘looker’.

@Anton Rogachevski What is meant by self control? Who’s controlling, who is being controlled? What processes are directly experienced to support this “division”? Are you one Anton or two Anton? What about avenues of opening up the mind as to what the reality all around you is (to step away from concept), such as quantum mechanics, and or teachers like Bashar, Abaraham Hicks, Jane Roberts, The Law of One, etc? Their teaching’s are nonduality, or, that each is their own reality - keep in mind, only you are hearing what is said. About 1 in 100 people actually comprehend what they are saying, and I have a hunch it might pair with where you’re at quite well. If they sound foreign to you, or “out there”, that might be an indication they’re exactly what is needed at this point in opening the mind up.

Hi, welcome to the forum. There’s no assertion, “requirements” are a meaning you hold; in actuality, it’s always been and is, up to you. Wether you believe what any one person says, is always up to you. A speech course, like Toast Masters, etc, might be a fun way to develop public speaking with others in the same boat. Yes, forget about ‘enlightenment’ and be honest internally to expand understanding of conditioning / mental patterns, understanding emotional reaction, etc. Later, these won’t appear as two different things, but it appears your current definitions reflect meaning for enlightenment which is not helping. Doing proper self inquiry will bring these facets into the light of awareness. Have you considered the Life Purpose course? Sounds like a good fit / good timing. All of these avenues will be, and already are, culminating in unison together, eventually resulting in self actualization. Watch for the trap of “I should develop myself before X”. Often, but not always, X is the very thing you need to do for the “development”, or breakthrough. You can face a fear to transcend it, and you can also self inquiry, uprooting it, and transcending it. Also, look for the distinction between developing what you actually are, vs learning, practicing, and getting experience, enhancing this life / experience / perspective. What you are can not be developed as you are already whole and complete, and have never been separate from anything. There is always room to learn and master what you’re doing in life.

@Pouya Yes, there is a point everything must be dropped. Every thing. Then a lasting all encompassing recontextualization occurs.

@Charlotte Nice! Food is mood, mood is thoughts, thoughts are choice, ...choice of food. Important cycle to be aware of. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/09/your-gut-directly-connected-your-brain-newly-discovered-neuron-circuit

@Ampresus Nice. Even if you do give it purpose, still. ?

@andyjohnsonman Believing and attaching to thoughts, awareness convinces itself there is a separate being, so there then is automatically an illusion of other than you. With only the emptiness, it is clear there never was either. The emptiness is often first experienced as the ‘space inbetween the thoughts’, with attention kept on stomach breathing; deeply in meditation and as a practice 24/7 - instead of unconscious involuntarily lung breathing & over thinking. Practices! Because thinking will not resolve / transcend thinking. Thinking will merely convince awareness that you have transcended thinking, so there’s still a ‘you’, thinking, in actuality, rather than awareness of actuality (awareness / being). Are you aware yet thought is linear - one at a time? Why would this be the case, that not one of us can hold two thoughts at the same time? (Should arouse suspicion at the least, no?) Can you see how there is no such thing as a new thought? &. That there is no such thing as a thing? If there are no things, is there a calling for thoughts? What are words, without thought? Does meaning remain, or cease? What are words, without meaning? Does thinking cease? What is the first, absolute word, which all other words are based on? What is the first, absolute thought, which all other thoughts are based on? How do you make a spoon disappear with your mind? When being appears. If there is “no direct experience because all experience is conditioned by past experience”; which are you actually experiencing in your direct awareness right now, “past conditioning”, or a thought about there being past conditioning, right now?

@Ampresus Read them now, and then again every two years or so. It really reveals how perspective has expanded, which later on I think you’ll agree, is very valuable in self realization.