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@Shin Limbo, like inbetween two stages. Feeling off / not grounded or centered...made worse by remembering feeling grounded & centered and not knowing the direct path to the next stage, to transcend and again feel grounded / centered. Like you left one stage (willingness to check the messages / feelings), reached the inbetween / limbo stage (received the message / are aware of the feeling), but have not yet understood the message. Relativity looping in the sense...The bundle of thoughts, or the idea of Nahm is a thing of or “in” relativity. If awareness is seeking the knowing of it’s nature, but is looking from the bundle / Nahm idea, and also looking to relativity or thinking; that’ll just keep looping with occasional slight deviations (elevated and downgraded moods / feelings) , a potentially infinite thought loop, with awareness never arriving at the discovery of it’s nature, prior to thought. Like playing the three cups and a peanut game, but never finding the peanut, nor losing cathartically enough to seek the means of realizing exactly how it is that there never was a peanut.

@Harry Howard It’s rare for someone to be sheltered from all suffering for half their life, only to be shocked to their core when finally witnessing it (like The Buddha). Folks are just not likely to drop the life / lifestyle / stuff / & perspectives accumulated through the desires & motivations of materialism and separatism. There is typically a smoother transition, like satisfying and then transcending survival-self oriented motivations into inspiration from synergistic perspectives, win win solution oriented thinking, etc. In general the common barrier is the retention of individuality via projection on “woo-woo stuff”; like the vibrational nature of things, the collapsing of dualities, quantum mechanics, etc. The dilemma is the tier one boats must be burned....but they’re your own boats. If one isn’t aiming beyond turquoise, there isn’t much illumination within to work up to it. A conundrum of not getting to the bigger picture, because you haven’t seen there is, a bigger picture.

@Shroomdoctor Great to hear. ??

@Shin Sounds like you are in limbo / relativity looping.

@EternalForest You are reality. It’s not something else.

The more you have going on, the more “you just can’t get away alone” - so the more you must. Like desire, if we don’t care for this, it’s hard to pinpoint the unbalance because it’s foundational and all encompassing of reality. The eyes can never see it. Just gotta schedule it, even if it’s on the calendar a month out. The peace from concrete planning it is enough to trigger the relief. Life in this era is seriously complex and very taxing on us. Sometimes an intense disciplined retreat is need, and sometimes you just have to get the fuck out of here for a few days. The hard hard factor is, that isn’t clear until you’ve pulled the trigger on it and done it. Alone. Entire days full of everything you enjoy. No working, no thinking. Creative light fun stuff, nature, spa pampering, whatever brings ya back to life. You can’t just march forward day after day after day months, years on end - especially when you are making big moves forward, new ventures, transcendent to where we have been. Not getting away - it’s the unseen holding you back. Got’s ta do it. Then you can see it.

@Shin Are comments appropriate / welcomed on your journal? I really never looked at them, not sure.

@Shroomdoctor Hi. How’s this workin out?

@SQAAD Add some exercise, yoga, and or tai chi prior to meditation...something breathing into the pain of extended muscles / stretches while maintaining breathe control & awareness. For meditation, you can super charge what you’re already doing up another level even, with earbuds and the link below. (Keep attention to stomach breathing, or try attention to the left / right moving sound). Head’s up though, in a few consecutive days or so, there is high potential for a purge / purification / major breakthrough, and if you resist - it might be not so fun, and misunderstood - so time it with a few days off work afterwards if possible. Hard to time stuff like that, I know. Just a suggestion. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5n9pLRsBx_Y Also, if you haven’t, consider learning the proper way to sing via youtube. It will push your inner body awareness through the roof, excellent groundwork to embodiment, if you’re ‘there’, or for when you get there. Sing ♥️

@dimitri ?? Another cover, but, this one won me over - “showed me”. And the one on the far left... perfectly lost ♥️

“Just LOVE for my living!” ♥️

Yep. Ya. Yes. I know, but still, yes. Absolutely.

(All credit to Jimmy of course, but I just love the breakdown in the middle here)

The point is your experience of now, and that’s it. The point of the entire cosmos existing is literally Paul’s experience. So let the “what’s the point” story go man. Of course “Close the deal”! “Make Paul great again”! Universe: here’s the point buddy! (Super hot girl manifests) Paul: meh.

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Appreciating the contributions everybody, thanks!

Right. Obviously. Was going from your op.

I’m financially independent (no boss / self employed but still dependent on the economy). Paper route at 12, expanded & subcontracted it, full time hours via 3 part time jobs at 13. Developed focus, letting go, breathe control / inner body awareness, flow & confidence playing guitar & singing. Learned perseverance & commitment producing albums, sacrifice from having a family, management working up in retail, law of attraction from Ester Hicks, entrepreneurship, marketing, seo etc owning an agency, parlaying profits into rental properties. Currently 43, writing a book, having awakening conversations / starting a new life / company. I agree that mindset is most fundamental. “Wether you think you can or can’t, you’re right”, cause you’re creating a life. Habits...Wake up early, self inquiry for a few minutes, 5 - 6 miles on elliptical, minor lifting, meditation / yoga, clean eating, mindfulness that experience is paramount, enjoying, loving, listening & asking questions, zooming in & out, practicing. Non-Habits...Watching tv etc, eating sugar / sweets, carbs, breads... partying, enabling, justifying, blaming, wishing, hoping. Yes, I was ‘entrepreneurially-minded’ from the womb, as well as wanting to understanding all of reality.

The floors analogy was a light hearted pointer, like the video your post is about. You’re talking about a video talking about something. I was suggesting you take the video as a pointer and discover the truth within your self.

@Jack Walter Leon Nice!

@tecladocasio You’re on floor 2, thinking. Floor 1 is awareness. Go to the basement yourself and see what all the hoopla’s about. See where words come from.

One approach would be, before you say (or type) anything, first pause until you can see the opposite perspective as equally true. The relative (ego) is conditional perspectives, absolute is unconditional (all & no perspectives). This is a way of peeling conditions (thoughts & perspectives) off to realize unconditional (what is - prior to thoughts & perspectives). Another way to say this is the point is amplifying / realizing the impersonal unconditional awareness (you / truth) which knows the experience of all personal conditional perspectives (duality / ego). Another way is to let every thought / perspective go, and agree with no perspectives. Only detachment, always impartial. This flirts with suppression, careful with the distinction. If desire for achievement is strong, this might not be the ideal practice. Another way is expression, in any form. Expressing your perspective all the way through, until there is no desire to express anymore. Journaling daily is great for this, and it’s an accumulative practice / result. It’s key to make note of when the perspective has been expressed all the way through, and no longer remains. The nugget in this, is realizing nothing changed for having expressed the conditional perspective - that thinking and emotions arose in the expressing, but afterwards returned to ‘baseline’ (awareness is constant & unchanging). Seeing that you are still you, now (didn’t actually go anywhere, nor change what you are). It was just a perspective, just an expression. You were always prior to it, through the entire observation, and part of what was observed is the appearance that you were attached to the perspective. Another approach is inner self study. Observing the inner proccess / experience / causation of: what is seen (object), what is seeing it (object), & what knows of the seeing & thinking (awareness). Anything observed with ample scrutiny literally disappears (nothing was there the whole time is revealed). With ample oberservation it is revealed there is no proccess, and that it was a deep rooted assumption all along that there was, leaving only the truth (I am / being / now). One more way is “understanding understanding”, knowing understanding as “of the true identity”. This is a little more complicated, and sounds silly initially. Pick something which you don’t understand how it works. For example, a combustible engine. Read / watch videos about how it works. But be mindful that the aim is not about the engine, but attempting to witness the actual understanding itself. I didn’t understand how it works, now I understand how it works - where did the understanding itself take place. Isolate & locate the understanding as specifically as possible, point to the understanding, describe properties of it. One more...not very popular but... Take the most basic, fundamental, scientific pragmatic approach, to looking into the distinctions between the known, and the knower. For example, a cup sitting on the counter is known. You are the knower / what knows there is a cup sitting on the counter. Start googling / researching what the cup is, and what you are. Examples of googles might be what is a cup made out of, what are molecules made out of, what are atoms made out of, what are quarks made out of, and so on. Then do the same for the knower; what is a human body made out of, what are cells made out of, etc, etc. The similarities & distinctions realized can be profound in terms of self realization, but also, this is a practice. Thinking about doing this is the same as doing nothing, actually doing it can yield the realization. These are suggestions of which the aim is the outcome of knowing being through scrutiny, by exhausting the distinctions.

Satisfied is dualistic, still in the matrix.