Nahm

@tsuki Nonexistence is a write off. It exists, because you’re creating it. I’m saying you don’t have to do such things which do not feel good to you. Also, if it doesn’t feel good to someone else, you can not be surprised by this, as it didn’t feel good to you either.

Pretend I believe in unicorns, and you ask me if they’re necessary. You wouldn’t. You’d say, “what unicorns” ?

@Lento ? ?

Help me with my suffering but don’t mention ignorance.

This is because there’s actually no such thing as “negative emotions”. They aren’t “identified”, they’re created with judgement of self or other / Self. This is a call for inspection work. ??

Sounds like you’re doing great, so good to hear. ??

Someone made a movie once where there was no such thing as suicide, but it tested so poorly with audiences that it was never released.

Yes. I know them because I saw them, as I also held them too. When we talk tomorrow we will inspect this and you’ll be right as rain. Too much ‘gets in’ when trying by typing. That will make sense tomorrow. We’ll clear that up too. For now, notice the feeling of irritability/pessimism, has an ‘urgency’ or ‘get up and run’ type feeling with it, an ‘avoid’ type of feeling. Then the depression/shame/guilt/fear feeling compounds it. Which denotes the length of time it’s been going on, which more actually denotes a high number of repetitions of... thought arises, doesn’t feel good, isn’t understood, is avoided somewhat subconsciously, adding confusion, and cycles back into the feelings on the lower end of the scale. What can happen in a conversation simply can’t be matched with text like this, but you will read this in hindsight (your comment) and it will be totally clear to you. Knowing we’ll be talking tomorrow...in a nutshell here...Reflect on, what have the efforts to feel better been? What have you tried to do to feel better, how much time have you spent on it? Where is it? How much does it cost? What is the proper dose, of feeling good?

@Buba The feeling, that terrible feeling...is love, telling you that those thoughts about yourself are not true, at all. In continuing to believe the thoughts, you continue to feel terrible. The instant you let the thought which does not feel good to you go, you see what I’m saying. You instantly feel relief. Continue as such, and that relief becomes a release. Cry it out, punch a pillow, pound the clay, whatever, but express it. Continue as such, and you’re on your way to the real, actual discovery, that you are the greatest possible being that could ever be. You can not think about yourself in a way which does not feel good, while being surprised you do not feel good. Wisest words ever uttered...”maybe I’m wrong about this”.

@Amit I want to acknowledge that it very much seems to be the case, and that I feel for you. “Where you’re at”, is not a fun place or time. There is this which gets referred to as awakening, enlightenment, etc. Obviously as you’re on the forum, you’ve heard of it. This could be the turning point from the “unawakened” “unenlightened” paradigm, taking the ‘turn’, the first step, into the new paradigm of what is pointed to by the word awakening. Having said that, what you said, as true and accurate as it does seem, it is not at all true. Further, unfortunately, you will continue to feel as you are until you see this. I want to help you see this.

@abrakamowse In the sense...someone could have the thought “thoughts are not important to creating reality”. Relative to truth, they would have believed a thought, which was nothing more than a cover up, or write off, and it ‘wrote off’ all thoughts. They could live the rest of their life in suffering, never realizing what transpired. Likewise but somewhat opposite, some could believe the thought “nothing”, and conceptually “get it”, but the thought could be the write off, and they never know Nothing. People use the word nothing, all the time, all over the place, never inspecting. Total write off.

@Amit Thanks for sharing, all very relatable btw. In looking at what you wrote there...take a minute to look at what of it is thought, what is perception (seen), what of it is sensation / feeling. Then, once located, where is the fear? Is it in thought, perception, or sensation / feeling?

@mandyjw ?

@VeganAwake Easily spotted too. ?

@Anton Rogachevski Anytime sneakypants.

@Serotoninluv Funny how the superposition is orgasmic. Where science & spirituality come together.

Right on. Go into that store. What’s a ... “fact”? What’s a double negative?

@Anton Rogachevski We might experience honesty differently.

That makes it easy. Just say, I don’t know. Otherwise, you’d be sharing / adding, a belief. Which I suppose if fine, if that’s your aim.

It’d require time to ‘trace back’. No time, no distance...then no “tracing back”...what’s perceived, is change. A separation between the perception of, and what is changing / what is perceived, can not be found. The separation between perception and perceived, can not be found. The separation between knowing perception, and perception, can not be found. For having inspected, this is ‘known’...what is known?....the Knowing itself known. By who? The knowing itself. So appearance of “change”, is actually No Thing, or, the “Nothing” “itself”, or, all that “is perceived”, “known”...is you, which is, knowing. What is known? Nothing. @mandyjw One of life’s many backwards questions.... “why the’ Nahm” ? Hard to say, but seems to first require to double you. There’s a tiny joke right in the middle too, I like to think, at least after the doubling.

@Lento Notice the more and more subtle. Notice you’re creating reality in the choosing of thoughts, literally. Careful not to write thoughts off, with a thought. “If I am truly consciousness & infinity”...it’s like window shopping with the “safety” of the glass (if). But “Because I am truly consciousness & infinity” “puts you in”, it’s like going into the store, having a real look around, seeing what it feels like, etc. The slight change in consideration can lead to obviousness, like, how else could I appear to be finite?

Inspecting and finding unique assumptions made of self & reality, which basically, limit in an unseen manor. Underlying perspective & experience all together. Before: What “guidance in sensation”? After: “Holy shit this is awesome!”. The thought / belief never aligned with the guidance of feeling...but “that’s just how it is”...or “that’s just how I am”. The realization you might say, is that. That “it’s just how I am”, or “it’s reality”...is not true, and never felt true. Transcend = become fully conscious of.

@Amit How is thought, feeling & behavior directly experienced by you? Check and see. When you asked the question, and felt “fear”...what is it?

@Raptorsin7 Ten people witness a robbery, and fill out ten police reports. Every one of them has a different account of what happened. To you & I, that makes sense readily. It’s all subjective. Right, “I get it”. However, she was also well aware, it’s all subjective. But it was at a highly intelligent, conceptual “functional” level, underpinned by a root belief she was unaware of. In doing the thought & feeling / emotional scale ‘work’, she felt great and had an instant that she realized what you and I hold to be pretty straightforward. She had a unique way of seeing things, and that included a subconscious ‘belief’ that everyone has the same, or very very similar thoughts. She realized, that is not even remotely true. This liberated all kinds of misunderstanding of feeling / all kinds of connection with the Goodness she is. She instantly felt drastically different, as her feeling which was suppressed, released a lot of insights, entire new ways of seeing much of what is most important to her, because she saw it all as herself. The wildest thing is you and me “get it”, and also have entirely unique - but yet the same thing goin on - in terms of subconscious beliefs and unique ways of experiencing. She said, “90% of my thinking, was about what was wrong with me”. (Very happily as she realized / enjoyed it...lot of ‘oneness laughter’)

That’s an assumption.