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@Atb210201 I wonder if this is helpful…. The view, or way you’re framing experience up seems to point to a belief in two sources, as if there were a source of creating good, and a source of creating bad… such that there is then concern that “if I think about this or that terrible thing, it’ll manifest”.

@Windappreciator ‘What’ is a thought. ‘What is perception’ is a thought. ‘Perception’, is a thought, a label, which points and does not actually define. In the experience of thought attachment, it seems like thought does or could define perception, such as the believing in / of the thought ‘form’, which then seems to define perception as a thing or separate things. Beliefs can experientially have a sort of trickle down effect, where another one justifies (seems to) a previous one.

@Atb210201 Yes all arising concepts are absolute infinity. Also the concept of a leprechaun riding a unicorn could arise in thought, but not ‘in’ perception.

@Atb210201 No.

@SQAAD Might be easier to see these ‘bigger picture’ or ‘collective’ projections in regard to pleasure. (You kinda keep leaning to the undesirable.) And then bring them home so to speak, or notice it’s ‘your’ thoughts. (For the sake of ‘seeing through’, as prior, to the thought attachment).

A silly joke is funny and not in need of resolution. Maybe I’m reading between the lines too much (?)… but it sounds like the thoughts about the psychedelic are used to perpetuate and support self referential beliefs. Only the non repeating ultimately cures, as the nature of belief is that they’re already not true. Psychedelics are quite effective in showing you nothing you believe is actually true (that a belief actually is, a belief). Listening to how you feel also ‘works’. Sometimes we think, believe and say stuff about ourself that we’d never say about a good friend. That guidance of feeling… that’s a real good friend. A psychedelic review coming out of Stanford is kind of a joke in itself. Like a review of information on vegetarianism recorded in a meat processing facility.

What I’m saying might seem ‘radical’ or maybe difficult to consider, but I’m suggesting those thoughts don’t feel good to you, because they’re not true about you. To try to do something to ‘fix’ or ‘solve’ them, would be to continue repeat & believe them (those thoughts). If you accidently put your hand on a hot stove you’d immediately remove it. Not because it’s true or not, but because of how it feels. I suggest that same intelligence that is the body, is applied (or allowed to be applied) to the thoughts. For your own well being & happiness. Give these a read, and just notice how you feel as you do. Recognize that what you want, is to feel good. Prioritize feeling good, way above what you or anyone else thinks, says, or believes.

@somegirl I didn’t mean you’re crazy . Sometimes people think the vibrational approach for mental & emotional equanimity is crazy. ‘Crazy’ was meant humorously about my own comment, not about you. I hope it works out though, sounds like you got your hands full.

@somegirl Here I go on the relationship section about to say some crazy shit…. Buuuut have you considered the vibrational resonating vs not resonating aspect, like two tuning forks? My dad was unbearable when I lived at home with him, but the instant this clicked everything changed. Takes a little unpacking but the gist of it is… if she called you a refrigerator, a doorknob, or a toaster, you’d be perfectly unmoved, unaffected.

It’s neither wrong nor right. It’s preference. A thought.. “wrong”. You. The ‘bigger’ picture, the relevance is that you simply yet utterly & profoundly - can not get it wrong. If it seemed that you did, that’d be you or someone else judging.

@ndm678 Maybe it’s simpler, obvious even… maybe if you believe you will owe, you will experience as if you do.

It will even attribute the corruption to an outside source.

I think “it is laced with arsenic & razorblades”. It feels like it’s not. Sometimes I believe the thought, and so the feeling seems to be about that it is. But I remember it is the thought which the feeling is teaching me about. It is better to love and to lose, to be burned, to be hurt, to be scorned, bruised & broken - than to never have loved.

Real intimacy if you will, is indeed intoxicating. Practice, contemplate - play around with - you can get drunk anytime, anywhere, without anyone, without doing anything. Intimacy as a most unbelievable icing on that cake of youness. Let the mind fool you a bit on from where this ecstasy & bliss arise, but not too much. Lose yourself in it, yet know yourself as it.

One day you will be dying. You will know it is your last breath, and you would give anything just for one more second of her bitching at you.

Let comparative aspects / thoughts of self & other go; winning, beating, being better, deriving being the best from comparative thoughts, winners & losers (motive). Allow inspiration; giving your best, being your best, expanding your best, encouraging the best in every one. You might be heading full circle, exemplifying, teaching. Contemplate, go prior, what is the point of all this competition really? What is it really about… the winning, or maybe more so just the experience in & of itself? Perhaps brainstorm a list on paper… when I consider all I’ve learned, all I’ve experienced… and I list it in terms of how would someone young & new to this approach this in terms of positive for self esteem, confidence, inspiration, bringing their authentic, inclusive self forward?

Yes, there are. No, there are not. Accept this.

Yes. “Consciousness” as a word is a pointer / pointing. Same for “thought”.

When something feels True, the feeling is Love, Goodness, Purity. When something feels false, look for the perspective which instead illuminates it with Love. ‘Reach’ for a lens of forgiveness, apology, understanding, acceptance, inclusion, unity. See “the bully” as “the victim”, understand the output of behavior, to cast that hurt upon the other, rather than introspecting and dissolving it into the self, love. Notice (thought wise) exclusion, casting out, and choose perspectives of inclusion, unconditional-ness. If I want to be physically stronger, I best eat well and get lifting. If I want to be spiritually stronger, I best appreciate the power of letting go, and loving. If a thought about me doesn’t resonate, doesn’t feel good, you know what…. then fuck that.

If I were to character that heart, it’d be saying but I am the nothing, I am the inside, I am the outside, and therefore these are not / are Me.

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@Gianna I don’t think you’re ‘off’ at all so to speak. I think you genuinely, as in Truly, honestly, aren’t able to identify as in that isn’t possible, but are trying to impose upon yourself the notion you could or should because someone else apparently did or is. Which is hysterical really, if allowed. Another consideration, when you realize you are God, it is therefore realized there isn’t a God. Obvious really, if allowed.

Bible called this “purgatory”.

@impulse9 A Total mystery.

Right & wrong are the mirage, an appearance of the dessert.