Spiral

Don’t force him. From his point of view you’re basically into Scientologi. Change your life for the better until he gets jealous.

People aren’t exactly celebrating when girls/women decide to “quit men”. In addition isn’t it sexist to assume girls/women are going to treat you poorly just because one girl did? There are bad peoples out there sure, some of them are guys some are girls. However it’s up to you to find the kind and suitable ones. On other thing I’ve noticed is that, even thought you say you walked away from women/girls MGTOWs usually complain a lot about women. Why?

Get to know them first, be friends for 6 months. Hang out and learn to trust them.

This is a great idea, keep it up! Can definitely relate

Flirting is all impliying what you want without saying out right. Long story short: The unclearity is what makes it interesting. Even saying that to a GF isn’t very smooth but if you want to be that direct try other synonyms/metaphors. But hey, everyone makes mistakes and there isn’t really much harm done. So move on. You can hide the thread btw

Even better then saying that you work in software engineering, describe what you do in a oversimplified and silly way. If you’re a judge you could say that you put bad boys in prison for a living. Try to make your profile more fun and personal rather then a wall of info. This can apply to real life interaction as well. Furthermore notice that ambition and passion for what you do for a living is really attractive.

It’s healthy if it’s consensual and not a way to take out struggles from regular life. Like let’s imagine she has a rape fetish. This comes from her suppressed sexuality and should be dealed with.

Nationalism is on the rise all over the world. Everyones favourite example Scandinavia is not an exception. I've noticed some reasons. Sometimes due to a charismatic leader. (Believe it or not Trump is actually here) Sometimes due to "integration" problems. (Includes segregation and crime) Sometimes due to increased multicultural presence combined with conservatism/patriotism. Sometimes due to good old fashion racism/xenophobia. Sometimes simply because immigrants come from nationalistic socialities. Sometimes and maybe worst of all because nationalist are misrepresented and discriminated against, especially by green people. Creating sympathy for these nationist. (At least in my country) Sometimes due to international trade inequalities. Noticed another reason? Let me know. How do we give people other alternatives to fixing their perceived problems? So that we can reverse this trend.

That's basically me(the guy) ?

@silene I've always thought of The UK/USA as nations rather than unions. I suppose the definition is a bit fluffy. How do you feel about the term Internationalism? I just discovered it

Sex is often used for escapism, however, unlike many other forms of escapism, it can directly harm relationships and therefor others.

The idea is to focus on their spiritual practice and not be distracted by such things. You don't need sex to find god or reach enlightenment so for them, it's a waste of time.

Rather than pills how about a piece of paper with some spooky liquid on it?

Absolutely, if you live in a safe environment and can focus on the small things, those things get better. Sweden and Switzerland are great examples. Both are high on the spiral. Neither has been at war for the last 200 years. Both are is naturally multicultural and have been so for a very long time.(Sweden has Sami and Finnish peoples)(Swiss have french, german Italians). Both are safe from natural disasters. Both have great trade opportunities due to their location.

Nice guys are like juice, they ruin your health but you still think you should be consuming it Long story short, don’t consume juice, it’s mostly just natural sugar. Smoothies are the healthy alternative.

@Nichts Personal development.

I’ve done a shorter PD online course, however not related to pick up. I found It useful, however I was given an opportunity to beta test it and therefor access it for free. 3k is a bit much, an advantage of the price is that you’ll really take what you hear/feed back seriously. Best of luck either way.

Suffer until nothing in normal life can even remotely compare.

My mothers new "boyfriend" is the pinnacle of nice. On the one hand, he is constantly late (and disrespectful timewise) and on the other tries to buy our approval by buying candy or offering compliments, constantly. I find his company awful and try to avoid him like the plague. Why? Because it feels so incredibly dishonest and manipulative, furthermore I have no respect for him. I, on the other hand, have only given him a single compliment for the last 6 months and I haven't bought him anything. The only reason I show him respect is for my mother's sake. Now, why does he do this? Is he malicious and tries to take from us? No, he just wants what everyone wants, to be approved and be liked by others. However, he makes a crucial mistake in how to achieve this. He believes that the way to get the others approval is to be nice to them and some degree this works, however only with children. Let a kid use your shovel in the sandbox and they'll like you. As adults, we don't want to be friends with people who are just nice to us. We might want to keep them around for free stuff or because we are desperate. Now you might say, well I am honestly nice and don't do it to make people like me. While that's probably an honest belief but notice how we are taught to be nice to others at a young age. It becomes a subconscious behaviour that we internalize to maintain social success from an early age. So how to change in practice? Don't be nice to people for no apparent reason, someones in big trouble, sure help them out. People want to you carry their bag for you when they could just carry it themself, don't. You see a pretty girl, don't tell her she is pretty, she has heard that a million times before. You meet a new person, don't ask for things you don't care about like their name. You get the picture. Apply this to new people you meet.

I'd avoid having a relationship with her.

@Shakazulu who told you that?

Being more masculine or a alpha male is not something you should strive for. Should you strive to more more feminine? No, you should try to best the best version of yourself.

Yup. Seems like a unhealthy relationship.

If you are getting friend zoned you’re not being clear enough from the start. You have 3 options. 1. Be clear about wanting to be in a relationship/sex. Not by saying it but by flirting/teasing her. 2. Be vague and probably end up getting friend zoned. 3. Honestly want to be friends. Oddly enough this often leads to her wanting more (ime).

You guy's should definitely pick chill options, that people don't hate to much. Even if you really like let's say Bernie, you'll need a lot of votes including Republican votes and I have a feeling they're skeptical when it comes to socialism. Imagine you get some meh guy/girl that doesn't do much good or bad, it's definitely worth it compared to what you got now. Picking Joe Biden is also really risky. Furthermore going slooooow is the way to go when it comes to a big change like going social democratic, why? To prevent backlash and making mistakes that result in you abandoning the whole thing.