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Would be interested in your general thoughts on speed reading and possibly particular techniques you use (if any).
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What is a law? A law is required to direct actions. Does the universe ask a physics book what to do? These 'laws' of nature are meant to help human's understanding of the physical world. What we regard as laws of nature is just our current understanding. It happens occasionally that previous models of how the world works are replaced by new ones. That much to how solid laws of nature are. Not absolute.
As I understand your question you ask yourself, if awareness is the biggest container of reality, then the physical world must be inside it and its rules must be set by awareness. Is that how you think of it? Maybe the physical world is not something within awareness. I would indeed suggest it isn't. Otherwise, why would awareness appear in the physical world, if the physical world is in principal already contained within awareness? My understanding is that it is a misunderstanding to assume that the physical world does not exist on its own outside of awareness.
Awareness in an empty universe would not be able to be aware of anything. There needs to be something happening to be aware of. Awareness is not any thing. It is a space. In that space something can be. Like a universe with planets and suns and stuff. If that space is empty though, awareness would be in a dark, silent, eternal emptiness. It would be asleep.
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Boiled eggs and regular quark with herbs (chives, dill) and salt
Tomatoes and Mozarella cheese + Basilico leaves + Olive oil, Aceto Balsamico, salt
Greek salad: Feta cheese, Tomatoes, Olives, Onions, etc.
Scrambled eggs, Omelette
Joghurt, pure or optionally with lemon juice
Chicken legs
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Options:
Eckhart Tolle "Stillness speaks" or "New Earth"
Stephen Covey "The 7 Habits of highly effective People"
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Check Kelly McGonigal's book "The Willpower Instinct". Excellent.
Some talks of her at youtube to give you a taste. The book has a very high density of information (in contrast to many other books that have 1-2 good ideas and the rest is pointless anecdotes).
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The first 2 are not youtube channels but highly recommended:
Now for youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc11676iKpKrJMYqNYHqNig?&ab_channel=BrianTracy
https://www.youtube.com/user/electrickeye91?&ab_channel=ThomasFrank
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO1cgjhGzsSYb1rsB4bFe4Q?&ab_channel=funfunfunction
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxObD2ivFPpq9Akna40s7Fw?&ab_channel=WadeAlters
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLTdCY-fNXc1GqzIuflK-OQ?&ab_channel=PrestonPysh
https://www.youtube.com/user/LeeMilteer/videos?&ab_channel=LeeMilteer
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp8mr0kjVyVAmvexLDqB60A?&ab_channel=ChaseJarvis
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTqAN5BB_YeHJwfpMDr5u6g?&ab_channel=CoreyFerreira
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClArOzhUBWBbxSMkZBCafcA?&ab_channel=JeffWalker
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHHYPa7xpAukYw73GQ3jP3g?&ab_channel=JohnChow
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBD5PmTS_6v2kuNmi3I7Igw?&ab_channel=LaurelStaples
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCznv7Vf9nBdJYvBagFdAHWw?&ab_channel=TimFerriss
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFxdcuY-S6yjZGq_2cjilHg?&ab_channel=SimpleProgrammer
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7csvNRWZzE3L6TR3RfCnCA?&ab_channel=ThePursuit
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The Dalai Lama comes into a Pizzaria and says: 'Make me one with everything.'
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The moral problem with a vegan diet is that an animal can at least theoretically run away while a carrot can't. Therefore eating vegetables is more cruel than eating meat.
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On 6. Februar 2017 at 3:29 PM, see_on_see said:Because consciousness is infinite, and has to include everything to be infinite. Including manifestation of the world of form.
It’s not that consciousness “produces stuff”, everything is just there, always, eternally, simultaneously, as part of boundless infinity.
Your understanding of language and logic is too different from mine for me to have any meaningful discussion with you. But that's OK.
But I'd like to express that you insinuate meaning in my posts when you have no idea what I am communicating because your palette of possible meanings is too limited.
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On 6. Februar 2017 at 3:29 PM, see_on_see said:Not machine in the sense that it's human-made. It's nature-made, but it's still a machine.
That's not a fact in actual reality. That is a categorization which is a mind-made layer. Categories and models are thinking tools.
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17 hours ago, PureExp said:Consciousness produces everything, including cpus and brains and entire worlds and universes.
Why would consciousness produce anything then? Consciousness as you think of it could just exist in a vacuum?
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On 4. Februar 2017 at 9:50 AM, PureExp said:@mostly harmless All good questions. I can give you some "canned" answers, but I guess it will be better if you experience it yourself directly.
It all starts with answers to questions like "who am I?" and "what this apparently external and separate world is?" You are in a right forum to start.
Well, as far as I am aware, I am not something that manifests through a CPU.
What you write is generally vague and gives the impression like there was no connection between a biological life form and the consciousness of it. To me it seems evident that there is: Humans lose consciousness temporarily when sleeping for example. Also drugs allegedly have mind altering effects.
In my estimation, not every inanimate object in the world is conscious. Obviously, when you look as the totality of the physical world as one entity, the perspective is very different, so different, that it makes no sense to ask for consciousness of any part of it. That however, wasn't what I was discussing in my initial posting, but rather zooming in on one specific part of totality.
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20 hours ago, LetTheNewDayBegin said:asking if the brain can be described by maths
I did not ask wether the (functionality of a) brain can be described (aka modeled) using logic or algorithms (or maths). A model is not the real thing. The map is not the terrain. The finger pointing at the moon, is not the moon.
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On 4. Februar 2017 at 0:29 PM, see_on_see said:Humans are just incredibly sophisticated machines after all
A biological lifeform is not an artifact.
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18 hours ago, PureExp said:Any material system, including the brain, cannot produce consciousness. Matter is generated by consciousness, not the other way round. Consciousness is fundamental, not matter, and hence a suitable material arrangement will express its experience of its essence, its ground, as consciousness, the witness of it all, just like we do in the form of human bodies and brains.
Why then would consciousness express its experience through a material form if it wasn't for a connection of consciousness and matter? Is there a connection? What kind? Could consciousness instantiate itself in the physical world in an inanimate object like a stone? If so, why would consciousness then still need a complex life form or a complex technical device like a computer?
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18 hours ago, PureExp said:Aren't you assuming that computers will remain just like they are now, boxes with circuits? Say after ten thousand years, what will a computer look like?. We are only about 50 years into their evolution.
I am interested in what computers currently are. Some major proponents of singularity basically think it is only a question of computational power. My estimation is that this is incorrect.
If in the future we have a different device, that is more than an "Analytical Engine", and people still call it computer, then it will be something different than what we call a computer today. I don't see any point in discussing this now.
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18 hours ago, PureExp said:What does a brain do? Any new findings to share? Are you implying that brain is the cause of consciousness?
Does the brain only work mathematically? Can an organism without brain be conscious?
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4 hours ago, PureExp said:If you assume that there is something "special" in organic matter, or that it comes with an added "soul", you will be in a big trouble providing any evidence for it. And the question remains, because one can easily make an "artificial soul". From what? Soul matter of course
The belief that a machine cannot be conscious comes from an assumption that the machine needs to "generate" consciousness. Its only a belief, and is a stupid one. It has origin in ancient belief that humans/living things are made of "special matter"
This is a suggestion based on a misunderstanding on your part. The difference is in what a computer does versus what a brain does. A computer can only compute. Any action or activity that cannot be done by calculation cannot be performed by a computer.
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On 1. Februar 2017 at 10:26 PM, Leo Gura said:Once you realize that everything is consciousness, including the sidewalk, your coffee table, and your PC, you might be more open to the possibility that a PC can develop self-awareness.
From my current understanding, consciousness can involve itself to create anything.
Of course a self-aware computer will probably not be one running Windows. It will have to be much more sophisticated.
This issue is an open question. We simply don't know yet whether it is or is not possible.
The Japanese traditionally have this idea of the world being an organism and everything being 'alive', I think. If that's correct then that would explain how they are very open to robots.
However you most likely think of consciousness as something different than I do. Same label, different content.
Do you have something like this in mind with what you are writing?:
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Rules are necessary as long as people are not enlightened. Someone who is enlightened does not act exclusively in their own interest but always thinks of everybody else's interests before doing something. In the utopian society where everybody does that, you need no rules or system to guide people.