UnbornTao

Do they overcome them and to what degree? How many go out of their way to achieve that? In the end it is the individual who must to do it for himself. And I have no idea what it would look like collectively, likely similar to what Leo alluded to: everyone kicking and screaming, not wanting to give up their cherished fantasies. We in fact tend to defend and promote them instead.

Well, consider that your role in this situation might be more significant than you realize.

@Sugarcoat Might be made up.

Too bad.

@Sugarcoat Maybe that sense is not what you think it is. Consider you might be generating or at the very least contributing to it. Sit in a room for an hour and observe your mind activity. What do you presume has to be connected, and to what? What do you mean by space in your sentence above? These expectations sound artificial.

And yet without humans certain inventions wouldn't have taken place or come to exist. Humans "do" language; without this activity, it wouldn't be known, take form, or be "discovered". The absolute is the canvas and humans make paintings on it. Feeling poetic.

You or self? I think this involves enlightenment work. Numbers had to be invented; they rely on human interpretation and meaning-making for them to be generated, as with any form of language--they're not "features" inherent to the universe that are waiting to somehow be uncovered, lying dormant and "hidden" from our eyes. You don't find a "two" hiding under a rock. In fact, without interpretation, not even a "rock" is out there to be perceived, just meaningless sensory input.

But the absolute isn't a distinction; it is absolute. Perhaps, tu put it metaphorically, "God" is what allows for distinctions to exist in the first place, whatever that is.

It seems we can create "a thing," which refers to one in particular, and "thing," too. The difference bird may not be the same for an ornithologist than for the average person. That seems to be the case. First there has to be a difference for it to become identified as part of something else.

I was talking about your main concern. I'd say clarify what that is for yourself. Do you consider yourself an exception to that?

Is it about feeling different or separated? Could it be a subtle desire to feel special? That sense might itself be based on a plethora of assumptions, but we have yet to figure that out. You keep bringing up that people’s thinking may be “connected,” as opposed to yours. How do you assume thinking has to occur?

Sounds good, I'll take your word for it.

Also, one can't get the why before the what. Looking for the why of something presumes that it is already known.

Could you communicate the presumed consciousness or insight? Maybe you’ve had some direct experience, but I’d tread carefully when coming from abstract lands. In any case, it doesn’t hurt to go deeper--to get clearer about your experience and transcend what stands in your way--perhaps fear and isolation in this particular context.

The Jak series is my thing. Played the first Rayman a bit and liked it, though.

@Raze Avoid namecalling

That is, stay on purpose.

I'd question what that sense is really about; you may be making quite a fair share of presumptions.

What are you conscious of?

Except, and including, Nothing. I'm being cute. Perhaps everything is constructed. But are you? In other words, is your nature invented? Is being relative? Let's consider that without a given distinction, say "numbers", they can't occur for you. The act of distinguishing between "things" would be what makes numbers possible in the first place. What makes the pieces different? What was there so to speak before any distinction was made? Piece, relationship, difference, sameness, contextual realities such as self and space -- all these show up as distinct in our experience. So what is this difference business about? At this point it would be wiser to tackle this subject as a personal contemplation, a koan.

The sense or the assumptions underlying it, yes. Isolated relative to other people--feeling existentially separated, perhaps. Perhaps that sense is universally shared human condition.

What did you grasp?

Could this sense be based on feeling isolated and/or separated?

A new Rayman is said to be in the works, FYI.