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I second this.

I know many buddhist monks who are good meditators and very present but also smoke a cigerette every hour or two and some of them having smartphone addictions.

I've read that 5-meo-mipt was powerfull too. However, there are reports varying greatly in what is told about visuals, some seem to have almost none and others described it very visual. I've read that it was from the bodily feeling like shrooms or ho-mipt but with nausea like other 5 meo's. I also read that the smoked dose was almost as high as oral one but is it true that the Duration is when smoked as long as when you take it orally? What are the similiarities to other substances like 5meo-dmt and ho-mipt or shrooms? What's the geneally vibe of it? Will it skull fuck me like 5 meo dmt? I've heard that it has some depersonilisation properties at high doses? Does anybody has tried it and is willing to share her or his experiences? =) I'm looking forward to hearing it. As some experienced psychonauts that came to mind. Maybe you can share your report? ? @Girzo @Leo Gura @Schizophonia @outlandish And everybody else is welcome!

I have tried 7-9 mg today and I have to say it is a really sweet triptamine. The first 2 or 3 hours were more stimulating and I did some low conscious stuff and I already felt a bit disappointed because it wasn't that I was in my body anchored very much and didn't came up like the triptamines I already know. But then I arrived at the moment and it began to become a lot more grounding and I was getting more conscious and became aware that I'm actively making me unhappy by finding reasons and conving me and that was causing inner pain and hell so to speak. That's done to get things for survival. So I just stopped doing that and was instantly blissed out. It's like having always a hammer on hammering on your head and then you realize "wait a sec, I do this" and drop the hammer. It is funny because I already knew this inner place but I had forgotten about it. There were slight breathing and my visual field vibrated but almost no visuals. Next week I will try 10-12mg and see how it changes when I up the dose. But today it gave me something handy to work on. It's interesting. When I was doing yoga every day I tapped into this. I guess that's a hint to continue =) Thank you and everyone around here very much. I really appreciate it and it makes a difference.

@KatiesKarma Sry, I haven't read the whole thread but in your stead I would study christianity from a scholer point of view so you can see that it is a construct (which might feel scary at first). For me it was helpful to see how religion developed and how things were added to it over the time. For this I highly recommend to watch the religion for breakfast youtube channel and let's talk religion. I wish you best luck. God loves you https://youtube.com/@LetsTalkReligion https://youtu.be/SRfFLjWLybA

I wouldn't go this far up. I'm pretty sure you get a lot out of 2-3g. I think you have the right attitude and that will give you juicy insights even at lower doses. I would take maybe just 2 grams via lemon tek and wear a mask with some music and ask the mushroom to show me something I need to know. If you take this attitude the mushroom will show you what you need to know at this time. Or just observe your mind and see that it is a mechanical thing, then the illusion disappears. You could also just go inside and see that things appear in you and be the space in which the vibrations appear. You could also just let things come up and see what happens. I hope I could help. Have a nice trip and take care.

Thank your for sharing your experience with this substance. Ok, I will start with 8-10mg. Yoga sounds great. I will do my kriya exersizes during the trip. Have you ever tried smoking it? I will take it orally, but it would be nice to know if it's true that according to psychonaut wiki the duration is more or less the same since I thought that smoking it intensifies but also shortens the trip. What happens beyond 14 mg? Will I leave this world or does it get extremely visual and triptamine like? Very much appreciation

Oh, man. That sucks. I wish you good nervs and hope that it isn't that draining for you. From the outside it often looks easier but if one is really in the actual situation then things look different. That's almost like having a bad room mate. Additionally she's mentally ill. Until you've moved I would try to make use of it for growth if that's possible. Best luck and strength, buddy.

Has anybody tried dissolving 5 meo in pure citric acid and water to plug it?

@Leo Gura I was partially wrong. you were right about the polymorphism of dmt. As it seems dmt has two distinct crystaline structures. One whitish the other more yellowish with a distinct melting point. The color can be influenced in many ways. It depends on the solvent for example how it crystalizes. Then the extraction methode plays a role and temperature of the solvent because often fats get dissolved in it and cause a colorisation. Oxidation or the presence of an amorphous seedling also play a role in structure or color, respectively. According to the report below the yellow criystalline structure is also convertable into white if you can heat it to a certain temperature. For those interested, here is the report: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0026265X13000544

That's what I assume. But which one? ??

I would talk to the young Hitler (maybe 15 years) and ask him about his dreams and future plans and see if he was already predestined to become to become that what he became. I would smoke some dmt with alan watts while he is describing the trip in a funny way or maybe just about his alcoholism. I would like to see a ptolomeyan pharao like cleopatra and see if they are really so beautiful and intelligent or just stone photoshopped and mentally disabled. Or maybe I'd want to talk to Augustus, Nero and Caesar about good goverment and politics and listen to their perspective Or just the Buddha about his view about enlightenment and why he thinks a man without his balls can't attain it (Not that I intend to lose them ?) and his world view in general.

Oh, from my pov it looks like you're projecting. One tend to see what one is looking for. For the full picture, here are many people who've made tones of progress over the years and not to mention the lives he's saved with down to earth advice. I notice this behaviour sometimes in myself. Look out for hurt which turns into hatred and attack disguised in form of critisism from the guy with image of being nice.

I had a nice evening with 22mg 4-ho-mipt. It was a great trip and far deeper than intended. Maybe 10 or 11 days earlier I took 15mg and broke out of low consciousness I was trapped for months. It wasn't ego death or god mode but helped me a lot to do some changes but let's return to the recent trip. At this day a hippy friend visited me. i am not a hippy but opened a little bit up to it and go into green and met a lot of people from socializing. I thought to have a nice cleansing trip together because he repeatedly told me he is looking for that too, so I thought it would be a good idea to do it together. So he arrived and we smoked a little bowl of weed first and listened to some music. Then I helped him to smoked like 50mg of dmt he brought along via pipe and he had some nice visuals but no break through though. After that we chilled some more and than he administerred 1.5g golden teachers and 12mg 4 ho-mipt. For me I had a capsule with originally 27mg in it but I didn't want to trip so hard so I removed what turned out to be about 5mg and ingested it. He was very active while I had some come up axiety plus problems to relugate my temperature so I went from the living room to the bedroom and lied down on bed with a nice cushy blanked. Then he got a call from some friends who wanted to have some fun in another city maybe 30 miles away he told them he would come. That disappointed me and I saw how sloppy that is. We had a short talk where he told me that he is going to leave (just before the starting of the peak) and if something would happen during the trip i could call him or generally to see how it is going. He also said then differently to what I was told first that on trips he is more of the sort of going outside to crowded places and have the giggles. I also noticed he was slightly strained with me and the rules because I live in a upper middle class neighborhood in an apartment and need some decency so I didn't allow him to smoke the bowl straight a the window or the bacony while the facility management is running outside around nor did I allowed him to talk about drugs while sitting on the balcony and he had to watch what he was saying what he seemingly felt as not being accepted and being himself. then off he went. Then I was alone by myself and I felt somehow a slight relief because now I could do serious work and not strain myselft to be fun for him. As the come up axiety was still strong and the trip was far stronger then what I was expecting of this dose I wrote to an acquaintance who has helped me quite a few times during tough trips and managed to go through it. Then there was peace because I enterred god mode and under stood that the fear was trying to keep me alive but this also meant death for the selve and I rememberred the whole game. when I closed my eyes there was infinity but a little different than on lsd, shrooms or what I heared of 5 meo-dmt. I was before imagining reality and the opening of my eyes was just being imagination like everything else. I also realized that the beauty is to forget and see it again and then forget it again. After 2 hours this substanced has the known effect to be weave like with few minutes going deep back again interchanged with coming quite down almost to being sober again. That was quite nice and I just enjoyed being in the moment and feeling my body, because it tended because it is similiar to shrooms to bring me back into the body and feeling. The difference to golden teachers is imo that they don't try to teach you something nor do they get really wacky. In a sense you have to put an effort into it to get something out (In a way that is still true with other psychedelics as well). At the come down I heard that you can reignite the trip with some weed. So I tried that and noticed that for my mind it causes confusion and lower consciousness. I restarted smoking weed only 6 weeks earlier to deal with some stress during exame phase and to socialize btw. It seems that people love me when I'm high but it has its costs. I contemplated that for a while and concluded that sometimes it depends in my intention in which direction weed and psychedelic trips turn but also because of my history it becomes for me a distraction and causes confusion from which starts old but not completely forgotten unhealthy behaviour patterns. That's 6 days ago and I have quit it since. I also decided that in the next weeks where I have not to do anything I need the time to really put into effort to get better sleep and rest because I also have ptsd and need to come down and rest because from living my life it is freaking stressfull and that has the potential to wreck my life and health completely. From this place of light I wrote me a list what I need to do and actions I did earlier which grounded me and made me happy so I also will work on that. So I will basically do some things that make me happier and more healthy because my health starts failing and if I want to become an engineer I need more energy but that's more for the career and the health section. I also learnt that many people tell they want healing and ego death and god but in reality they don't want to work for it and confuse it with fun. I also was disappointed from my friend because of how it went. he is normally a very nice guy and is more caring but he is clearly addicted to getting high and that seems to be a priory to him. He also called during my peak and was very superficial until he told me he was actually looking for his weed which he lost somewhere on the way. At that time I was very conscious and understood and was also very greatful because his visit helped sparked some great realisations into survival, selfishness and god and healing. At that time I understood and felt deeply sorry that he has caused himself actually to get a step away from god and lost this great opurtunity to go inside (It was still conscious that all was imaginary). I intend to trip this week again if the the conditions are right, maybe on 5meo-mipt. Please share your opinion and advice and also if you know what I can expect from 5meo-mipt. How long would be the difference in duration smoked and oral? How visual it becomes and the mindset? Maybe how similiar or different it is to 5 meo-dmt. I've read some reports but the widely vary.

I tried 150yg 1d-lsd and for me it is maybe 20-30% less potent than 1p-lsd and has a slightly steeper come up, little less visuals than with similiar doses of other analogues and the peak and come down are shorter in duration. But the head space is typical. Best buy some 225yg pellets for best effects. I find it strange that other people need to take so much. Often times when I take just 1g of shrooms or 100yg I get instantly into deconstruction and god mode and don't bother with distractions like visuals or music. They are just icing on top after healing and the rest is done. Do you really need 400 or 600 yg of it? Best ask yourselves and look for the reason and intentions. Maybe some have really high tolerace but in most cases they don't. I also acknowledge that if one is a hardened state it can take more to break out of it. But still, please don't take too much and waste it or go into distractions and pissing contests. But on the other hand if you just want to have some fun then it's ok too but don't overdo it.

Tax avasion isn't that serious of a crime in the eu. That's more of an us thing and the harshness of penalties in that area in general. For example in germany a person would only get 2-3 years in prison for evading 2.3 mil euros in taxes if he just did that and some white color crimes. They will give you a huge fine and want you to pay the taxes back basically. That's why you have to find more serious charges which is a easy thing because he evidently comitted them. If what I read is right he would only get max one to five years for tax avasion in romania.

@manuel bon Yeah the problem is I think with truffkel that you have to chew them well and eat like 15 to 20g to get a strong trip with mystical experiences. I've lived in NL for half a year. Yeah it is very easy as long as your room is more or less clean and you avoid touching inside the bag where you put them in and seal the bag. But take a 100% mycelium kit size 1200cl because the chance is less of contamination because you don't have to add water in the bag. Aside from that 1200cl will be enough harvest like 20g to 25g dried shrooms and not 8-10 with the smaller one. But if you buy it make sure to control it for yellow spots as sign of contamination before you open it and take a picture of it so you might get a refund from the vendor if something goes wrong and you have some evidence that it wasn't your fold. If you want to dry them, you will have to do it quickly after harvest with some tek you have to think about in advance due to possible degradation of the active agent. Usually there is instructions how to habdle the kit with some hygienic protocol to follow. How do you intend to quantify the mg of psylocibine and psylocin? It wouldn't be wise to try to extract it from the shrooms because you might lose a lot in the process.

It depends. There might be slight differences in composition but you for me there is no difference except that truffles are more incovenient because they are hard and taste disgusting and tend to cause more nausea than shrooms. You can still make a tea though.

I wish I had known from start that the awakened state is for most people not permanent and that I'm back to normal the day after so that I don't have to think that I'm stuck while tripping. Another thing is being clear about ones Intention. If you want to get insights then that should make the intention to do so. Also as safety protokol: perpare enough food and drink for 12 hours or how long it should last so you don't have to worry or make the effort to prepare food while trippin hard.

Maybe Maybe, I don't know that. But the color can come from the extraction. Usually the first round extracting gets you nice white cristalls but when you rerun it and try to get the rest and you add more base and solvend and start heating it you also dissolve some of the oils which change it to yellowish or one can make minimal mistakes transferring the solvend and getting accidentally a drip of bark solution or two which also changes the color and cristall structure bit.

I guess the problem will soon be solved.

Ok, yeah. You might have a high tolerance

@Chives99 how many mg have you used?

It's not that there are some evil commpanies or people pulling the strings from behind. There are many factors drawing it out to the situation we are finding ouerselves in. Think about the following: Ukrainians don't want to be bullied into submission from a mafia like country that denies openly their cultural, political and economic integrity and they want to participate in the western system for the benefits in the afore mentioned areas and their developmental perspectives. Also keep in mind that in the first part of the invasion destroyed a big part of the ukraine, killed innocent people, plundered cities and raped their women. So more of this is expected in terretories which the russians might gain and it's the ukrainian govorments duty to prevent that from happening. However I don't think ukraine can win but they have too much sacrificed to lose too. So they have improve their situation for the negotiations by giving russia some kind of strategic defeat. They are also under huge pressure from the donator countries to get some results in the south so they have to put their people in the meat grinder. But instead of the russians (they have finally improved that as well) they also try to minimize casuslties hence they don't break through. An the other side the russians think that they will capture the annexed terretories eventually in 2-3 years and they as a former superpower can't let a defeat ever happen. So they invest more and more ressources and seem to increase their military production a lot which btw europian countries still haven't. The russians are also afraid of ukraine joining nato if they lose and the conflict is solved in the ukrainians favour which was one of the reasons for the war at the beginning. There are more reasons from the russian perspective which contradicts other perspectives like protecting russian people. Leo has explained that very well in a thread a year ago, you can find it. In this conflict are so many interests involved that go beyond the things I mentioned but this more or less explaines why still fighting is going on. There are companies like the military industrial complex that drive the conflict on a lower level though but this has to fit in the context I explaint to get a better picture. But there are also coorparates in the economy that would more profit from peace. So one has to keep that in mind too. @mojsterr what's your opinion about that?

I just smoked the pure leaves and got a good trip for a few minutes and didn't expect much. I honestly just wanted to relax and get the cannabis like high of a low dose as experienced before a few times but this time was different. I smoked just a little puff and not the whole bowl and got an slightly dmt like trip where objects started to change shape and everything seemed like having a presence and everything got a slight greenish taint and I got a lot more conscious and I remembered that I could have breakthrough. It was like an invitation that I politely declined. It surprised me a bit because I cleaned the bong and didn't expect that from the pure leaves especially that only happened before when I mixed it with dmt. So that was quite interesting and reminded me of not taking it too lightly and respect it then it will respect you back because it somehow has a life of its own. These breakthroughs are different than on extract. Imo extracts give you the maximum experience with mostly non spiritual value whereas this roa gives you more insights because you don't forget everything and won't get catapulted into another dimension. If you close your eyes you can expect fractals and landscapes though.