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    My advice is to look for communities where everyone has the same mindset. Don't limit yourself to 'spirituality' communities; architecture, music and film hold many insights (as long as you stay away from the pretentious people).

    Remember that communities consist entirely of individuals. Most of them won't have their thoughts straight and consequently will have nothing meaningful to discuss.

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    20 hours ago, Majed said:

    @OnePointTwo i do not agree precisely because when you are highly conscious you tend to have a life purpose and this way you have a big positive impact on mankind 

    For sure. But if you and your family were thrown into the wilderness with nothing, making fire and tools would take priority over spirituality.

    Look at the forces in society. The industrial capitalism force has been trying to create subservient robots for centuries and the social media force has been trying to shape wealthy people's egos in it's favour for decades. These are strong forces. AI and automation is helping to satiate industrial capitalism and giving people new-found freedom, but only the few who escape the lure of popular culture due to strong discipline or social rejection are using it to pursue wisdom.

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    2 minutes ago, Tristan12 said:

    Because real spirituality is the complete opposite of survival. It's very difficult work that leads to annihilation of self, which is the last thing most people want. Therefor it takes a lot of wisdom to pursue it seriously, never mind all the work it takes to first get to the point where you see that awakening is real and is a possibility.

    This is the answer. From the perspective of society, highly conscious individuals are counter-productive. 

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    11 hours ago, Fredodoow said:

    Therefore a productive conversation about art should begin like this :

    Most people already do this. They differentiate between your levels by asking "did you like it", "was it enjoyable" vs. "is it good", "did it get a good score", "how does it compare to Other Thing?".

    Yes, artistic standards are the key. Standards are to criticism what time is to racing.

    The standards the would put a symphony above a pop song are derived from the Western Canon.

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    18 minutes ago, axiom said:

    The illusion of self is: "I am separate and I feel unfilled. I need to somehow recapture wholeness". Cue a lifetime of seeking.

    The desire to be left alone and not heard could also be considered the illusion of self. Your statement isn't reductionistic because it's wrong, it's reductionistic because I'm clearly considering things at a lower level. Reducing human psyche to "the illusion of self" is as severe as reducing our choices in life to deterministic physics and chemical reactions.

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    8 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

    Love. Its all Love man. Its the single trait that has both motivated some of the most violent acts in human history and the most caring acts in human history. Its literally the desire to express oneself. 

    I think I finally understand "everything is love". Our values are rooted in love. We can't escape love. We see the world through a lens distorted by love. Love is bias. Hatred is a response to things that threaten what we love.

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    On 09/09/2022 at 2:31 PM, Razard86 said:

    In all interactions the person's first two desires is to be heard, and understood. Obviously you want to be heard, so your message can be seen and get across. Obviously you want to be understood, because who wants people to misinterpret them? Once a person feels, and this is important FEELS that they have been properly heard and understood, THEN they will be receptive to feedback. 

    These days I assume nobody will hear me, unless my art has the potency of a lightning bolt.

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    13 minutes ago, Proserpina said:

    @OnePointTwo Don't be surprised if you find those who are 'unhinged' in any spiritual/ self development circle.  Mental illness is a massive catalyst.  Eckhart Tolle says a large painbody is a gift, as it is a catalyst to awakening. 

    I know it's fun to disown the mentally ill around here but actually they are gifted in many ways.  Suffering is the highest teacher. 

    Thank you for sharing this perspective. There are some people who are a little mentally ill or unusual, but there are also the people that Tyler mentioned. She called them narcissistic, but I'm going to call them egocentric and ignorant until I know narcissistic is an apt description. They drag everyone into their gross little place that they have architected with little basis in reality. It makes it impossible for a coherent conversation to be had, unless everyone comes to a mutual agreement to ignore them.

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    10 hours ago, Tyler Robinson said:

    The forum puts you into combat gear. Constantly being attacked (there's a difference between attacks and debates I've nothing against debates), and always having people oppose you rather than support, will keep you on edge, increase your cortisol levels, get you stressed out, pumped up which is not good for your emotional and physical wellbeing. I can say confidently that this place will permanently change you for the worse, turning you more hostile, changing you from a sweet to a bitter person, even maniacal, it fucks with your temperament and then blames the person for acting defensive. The maniacal part is important. I've seen people type some random clueless shit after a while because they turn weird, the same people who were quite sane in the beginning begin to act all cranky, writing insane illogical stuff, they begin to develop mania, they begin to say inappropriate stuff more often and their replies get more and more uncalibrated and belligerent. As though they are tripping. Their language becomes a turn off and you can see signs of decadence both in terms of politeness and moral behavior. It's like they aren't same anymore and became someone else, but a less likable version of themselves. 

    I came to this forum expecting everyone to be on the same page. I thought there would be more people like Leo.

    (I edited out the part where I called people unhinged. Probably not helpful)

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    One of my favourite songs is Walking on a Dream by Empire of the Sun. I was taking a listen to the lyrics, and they sound Nondualistic. Am I projecting?

    [Verse 1]
    Walking on a dream
    How can I explain?
    Talking to myself
    Will I see again?

    [Pre-Chorus]
    We are always running for the thrill of it, thrill of it
    Always pushing up the hill, searching for the thrill of it
    On and on and on we are calling out, out again
    Never looking down, I'm just in awe of what's in front of me

    [Chorus]
    Is it real now?
    Two people become one
    I can feel it
    Two people become one

    [Verse 2]
    Thought I'd never see
    The love you found in me
    Now it's changing all the time
    Living in a rhythm where the minute's working over time

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    2 hours ago, Someone here said:

    @r0ckyreed so your position is that there is no cause for the present moment?..but that's only true if we assume that the present moment all that exists . But even then ..how Do you explain the existence of the present moment if its uncaused as you claim ?

    I am surprised as, to why, the problem persists.

    If one asks, what is the cause of the universe?

    And then...What is the cause of the cause which caused the universe? And then What is the cause of the cause of the cause which caused the universe ad infinitum You encounter a strange problem That cannot be solved unless you posit a first cause /aka God. 

    Did you read my four paragraph explanation? What part didn't you agree with? I provided a cause for the universe.

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    6 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

    The illusions of change and time go together.

    Without the construction of time (a past and future), change ceases to exist.

    That's interesting, I'll think about it over the next few days. I did mention that my explanation relies on thermodynamics, so change is necessary. This thread is titled "why does atheism even exist", implying that the big bang is less rational than a 'creator'. The creation myth also involves change, so if we deconstruct time, this thread becomes pretty incoherent.

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    9 minutes ago, Holykael said:

    God fucked my life so much that Im stuck without access to psychedelics. All according to perfection and the grand plan of the universe as you guys so like to parrot. Why do you think I'm so salty. God with his grand perfection put me in a completely unwinnable situation. God wants to experience everything right, so god also wants to experience being stuck with no hope. How grand god is.

    @Breakingthewall 

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    2 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

    You are imagining a Big Bang.

    Yes

     

    3 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

    God is eternal, here and now.  If you try to locate the "origin" of God, you are left with an infinite regress not a first cause.  God is infinity.

    But there is clearly change, or at least the illusion of change. When I drop a rock in a pool of water, there is a splash, ripples and then eventually, everything is calm. I could give 1000 other examples. They all start with an impulse and end with stillness.

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    1 hour ago, Someone here said:

    I know what entropy is . Its the principle that in any closed system..the particles trend to move to the most chaotic state .

    How is that connected to my question? 

    First, realise that the "whole" is something that exists and is not predicated on anything else. In science, the whole is the entirety of the universe or multiverse. In Christianity, the whole is the Earth and Heavens. In Nondualism, the whole is you! God, consciousness, or reality. You could call the whole 'one' and everything outside the whole 'zero'. In maths, the whole can be divided into parts called 'two', but this isn't a given in nondualism, since God is inseparable.

    Second, consider quantifying the energy, mass, spirit or flux of the whole. It is infinity. But, it is in a state that changes over time. How does it change? Everything suggests that entropy increases. In other words things are expanding, order is decreasing, the universe is cooling, things are becoming more stable. Eventually, all energy will be evenly distributed. An infinite space will be filled with an energy level of 1/infinity. Nothing can possibly happen because there is no usable energy. This is the end of the universe, and there is no point recording time after this point, because without change, there is no time. Time wouldn't abruptly stop, but the lack of movement would make time slow down until eventually the smallest change takes an infinte amount of time.

    Third, consider the opposite of infinite space with an energy level of 1/infinity. It's a 1/infinite wide point of space with an energy level of infinity. The Big Bang. Just like the end of the universe is very slow, the beginning of the universe is very fast. Things change quickly. That explains why there is nothing before the big bang, because time is infinitely fast at that point. In other words, as you approach the beginning of the universe, change happens in an infinitesimal amount of time. Therefore you can't go 1 second before the big bang.

    That's not even the most interesting part. Consider what the laws of physics are. They are a set of rules that take a universe from an infinite point to infintely dispersed field of 1/infinte energy. They could be 10th dimensional. Most scientists believe our universe has these properties: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_physical_constants. If any of these constants were different, you would not exist as you do now. You should believe that your consciousness created these, because you'll find they are pretty fundamental if you go digging. If you can disprove one of these values, enjoy the Nobel prize.

    This explanation of the universe is consistent with nonduality. It means the "whole" exists for infinite time, it does not have a beginning or end. Also, I'd like to state for the 10th time that I don't believe science can explain truth. The physics of a cup does not tell you anything about its design, usage, history or value. Physics is just the rules of a game with unknowable depth.