Lila9

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  1. Posted · Edited by Lila9

    10 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

    Many chose to immigrate to Israel. And that was indeed wrong.

    They were kiked out as a "revenge".

    10 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

    They do it against Palestinians, people that welcomed them with open arms when their precious European friends were wiping them out.

    Palestinians treated Jews living there 1000x better than Europeans did for centuries yet the ones that had their land stolen and were oppressed/murdered were Palestinians. Talk about justice...

    They didn't welcomed them with "open arms". They were suspicious of them and terrorized them since the presence of the Othman empire because they felt intimidated.

     

  2. Posted

    7 hours ago, BlueOak said:

    Two things

    1) From a self-preservation standpoint knowing your neighbors, why are you catering to their most dangerous and worst tendencies?

    2) Yes. And Israel has given them hundreds of thousands more recruits, an excuse to do what they are doing, and legitimacy for a more extreme position or government.

    In their mind, they are not terrorists but fighting outside invaders. Why is it you can't see that one action creates the consequences of the next? Why do you think everything happens in a vacuum?

    Any excuse? There is an ethnic cleansing going on nearby. If that happened in Europe you can be sure we'd be up in arms. Russia tried a horrific but different version of destroying a culture or way of life they didn't like, and united almost the whole continent against them.

    1. What else can be done? There were great attempts of Israel to make peace but they still wanted to destroy Israel, even more than ever. No matter what is done to improve the situation, they always want to destroy.

    2. They abuse Israel because they are fueled by toxic ideology, by low and destructive values. There was peace before the October 7 attack. They ruined it. They don't give a fuck about peace, unfortunately.

    Don't you understand that not everything in life can be explained by logic? That humans are irrational creatures? That not everything in life can be explained by cause and effect?

    That there is devilry in the world which is fueled by irrational and toxic beliefs which cannot be resolved by tolerating it and giving the other cheek?

     

     

  3. Posted

    6 hours ago, Ash55 said:

    actually the west is acting like 6 yo and the middle east like 4 yo

    Yes lol

    But better to be 6 than 4.

    6 hours ago, Ash55 said:

    war is radicalizing both side, if we just made isreal and palatines one secular country fair for everyone, that gonna solve the problem, i understand the suffering of both sides and the west is using jews as a tool to project power into the middle east, and how Israel started with nakba is not a very peaceful start too
     

    Hamas is the one who always starting the wars with Israel. 

    6 hours ago, Ash55 said:

    are you an israeli @Lila9  for defending israel like that ?
    am not blaming you i  just wanna understand where you came from

    Yes I am. My perspective and the perspective of other Israelies here is valid.

    Just because we live here doesn't mean that our perspective isn't valid or 'too biased' to be taken seriously.

    I will keep to talk enthusiastically about the truth that I see and experience, and gladly share it.

     

     

     

  5. Posted

    1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

    Thats not what Israel want to do. See Israel's far reaching pragmatic steps in the last 5 years including the billion of dollars invested in a smart fence and all of that to avoid unecessary wars in all cost.

    This.

    If to look at facts rather than bias and imagination we can see that Israel doesn't want wars but peace and safety. Israel wants to be left alone and thrive for the sake of it, like any other western country.

    While the other side wants to take all of Israel by eliminating everyone in it to build a toxic Islamic state.

    It doesn't want to develop, evolve spiritually, have a quality life, peace, happiness. It rejects science, human rights, any values which are not Muslim and religious.

    It could have done that, if it invested the billions poured into Palestine to thrive rather than starting wars.

    Seems like it only wants to die, kill and destroy. It can't bear the thought of development or evolving. It clings to ill feelings from the past, can't see beyond its hatred and contempt to Israel, Jews, America, the west. 

    Too proud and arrogant, couldn't understand that there is much greater suffering in the world, that there are nations who faced much more brutality than they could ever imagine during the entire human history.

    That they are themselves the offspring of one of the greatest agressors in the world.

    And the efforts to compare the Nakba to the Holocaust, are so manipulative and insulting.

    It wasn't even 1% of the holocaust, or any other real genocide in the history.

    Yes, it was sad and humiliating, Muslims have pride, I get it, but they are not the first ones loosing their homes and not the last ones, and just because their granny lost his property somewhere in 1948 doesn't mean that they are entitled to kill innocents like ISIS.

     

  6. Posted · Edited by Lila9

    850,000,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries. In 1948, their homes were occupied by Muslim Arabs in the middle east and North Africa. Not to mention all the territory and homes Jews lost during the WW2 across Europe.

    Could they just go and commit terror attacks against innocent Arabs across the middle east? Across Morocco, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Yemen? 

    Across Europe? Germany, Poland?

    Could they just go and rape them, burn them and kidnap them? Would that be a legitimate resistance?

    If Israel doesn't belong to Jews, then these territories across the middle east and Europe which were occupied by Muslims and Christians must belong to them. No? There was a time when their grandparents or great-grandparents lived there, even though they never lived there themselves, but according to the Palestinian logic, it must belong to them if their grandparents used to live there. No?

    If Jews should leave Israel and Free Palestine 'from the river to the sea' (Jordan river and the Mediterranean sea btw, for those who have no idea what river and what sea) is that mean that the Jewish occupied homes across the middle east, Europe and North Africa should be free too? 🤔

     

     

     

     

     

     

  7. Posted · Edited by Lila9

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_movement

    There are Yemeni terrorists who bomb ships with goods coming to Israel. And bomb Israel from the southern side. They are doing that everyday.

    Their moto is:

    "Death to America, death to Israel, curse on the Jews and victory to Islam"

    Same values as... Hamas.

    They are responsible for the expulsion of the last Jewish families in Yemen.

    And they are not occupied by Jews.

    Any excuses to their toxic ideology, antisemitism, anti American agenda, and Muslim superiority agenda?

     

     

  8. Posted

    6 hours ago, jaylimix said:

    I am NOT a Jew, Israeli, Arab, or a Muslim, for me there is no veil of self-bias, threat of career destruction, or financial incentive.

    By default this already makes me a better judger of the situation, and I stand with Israel.

    I get you. You have a common sense and you are able to see the big picture and understand that it's a war of barbaric values against more conscious ones.

    And you prefer the conscious ones, obviously, because that's how society evolve.

    You are on the sane spectrum of humanity.

  10. Posted

    10 minutes ago, _Archangel_ said:

    1 killing members of the group,
    2 causing them serious bodily or mental harm,
    3 imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group,
    4 preventing births,
    5 forcibly transferring children out of the group

    By these definitions, Hamas is comiting genocide as well. Killing Israeli people, innocent civilians, causing them serious bodily and mental harm (October 7 massacre was the peak of it) and separating children from the group by kidnapping them.

    If you are fair and objective you should address this as well.

    If there is harm for both sides, it looks like a war, not genocide.

    Yes Israel has more military power. Just because it has more power doesn't mean that it's more ill intentioned. Per Hamas charter all the Jews should be eliminated, and Israel should be an Islamic state, if they had the military power to do that, they would do that.

    14 minutes ago, _Archangel_ said:

    As you see, genocide doesn't mean that the population must decrease.

    Factually their population only increases. Which means that there is no birth prevention policy and no genocide. How can be genocide and birth prevention policy when the population only increases? And not slowly. Not slowly at all, damn, they can easily solve the birth rate problem in the western world. 

    Only because some intellectuals and theoraticans say that, doesn't mean it's true. There are intellectuals and theoraticans who condtridict them. 

  12. Posted

    4 hours ago, Nivsch said:

    Sorry to hear how did it affected you?

    Just an hour ago I heard that a guy I know from age 8 (was one grade above me) was killed in Gaza operation. Shocking.

    I was in disbelief and so my entire school and people who knew him because he was so young and so alive. We were sad and speechless at his funeral. Nobody knew how to react or what to say, we were kids who just graduated from school and some of us (me included) just joined to the army.

    His mother's reaction was heartbreaking, I will never forget her crying, she was a single mother and he was her only son. 

    I'm sorry to hear about your friend who was killed during the operation, these daily news about soliders or kidnapped citizens who were killed in Gaza make me feel bad.

    This is very risky to serve in Gaza, I full of gratitude and respect towards all of them and pray that there wouldn't be more deaths.

  14. Posted

    Just now, Karmadhi said:

    Then how come 90 percent plus are civilians? If a building is mostly terrorists the ratio would be more even. Wepons being there is not an excuse to kill kids sorry. Still a war crime.

    The thing is that these buildings shown in the video are very likely were empty of people because people evacuated. They were bombed to allow IDF to navigate in Gaza more easily as Gaza is very dense.

  16. Posted

    6 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

    @Lila9 @Nivsch

    Can you please see these two clips and give me an Israeli pov

    I found them extremely disturbing. The second one is from an ex IDF general.

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0fz_MxOZET/?igshid=NzBmMjdhZWRiYQ==
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0dy5xANB3f/?igshid=NzBmMjdhZWRiYQ==

     

    First clip- It can be that the entire building contains terrorists/weapons, there is no contradiction. The Free Palestine statement at the end is awkward given it's calling for ethnical cleansing.

    Second clip- Just another Jewish American who is anti Israel. 

    And being a son of some Israeli general somewhere in the 6-days war isn't enough experience to claim what he claims. 

    If you want a better perspective on both Hamas and IDF you should read the book "Son of Hamas" or watch the interview in my signature, this man worked both for Hamas and IDF, he has more experience and better perspective on the conflict.

     

     

  17. Posted

    43 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

    From the name I guess you are an Israeli arab?

    And nice to hear.

    I am also Israeli from birth. This is so amazing to see how much differently Israel society is grasped abroad than the reality I live in here. not gonna lie too this is not easy.

    Thank you 😍

    I agree, it's difficult to see so many bs spread around about Israel from people who have never spend a day in their lives here and don't know where Israel is on the map.

    I'm Jewish (from a Russian and Asian origin, my parents immigrated from the Soviet Union because they faced antisemitism and life threats) but there are many Arabs where I live as I live in an area of Jews, Christians and Muslims. They are my neighbors, friends, colleagues. 

    I have a female Christian Arab friend who is married to a Jewish man. I have a Jewish female friend who is married to a Christian Arab man. They celebrate both Christian and Jewish holidays.

    I have religious and non religious female Muslim friends who I've learned a lot from and I know a bit Arabic thanks to them. I taught them some Russian, they love the Russian language.

    I have the sweetest Muslim religious friend, Muna, (who I can talk about forever) which wanted her husband to take her, me and her daughter to Jenin (In the West Bank as you know) to do shopping because everything is much cheaper there than in Israel. But her husband was concerned about my safety there and he honestly said that maybe it's not a good idea for me to be there as it puts me at risk because I'm Jewish. 

    I can keep and tell about my life in Israel, about the colorfulness, the warmth of people here, the diversity in cultures and sub cultures, the love of animals, the humor, and my experience from everyone and every city here, I can talk about the things people don't hear in the mainstream media all the pros and cons, but it's going to be soooo long. So I would stop here.

    This is my very reality, that's why I find it laughble when people say Israel is an Apartheid.

    To say that everything is perfect? Not, there are Arabs who identify themselves as Palestinians or both as Israeli and Palestinians, it varies and it's fine. There are also a few problems in the Arab community, especially the Muslim, lots of crimes and curropted leadership which is a known problem in Israel, as you know.

    Most of the Arabs I know take the Israeli side and feel angry and sad when there are news about some terror attacks done by Hamas.

    Because Hamas doesn't discriminate between Israeli Arabs and Jews, Hamas have killed and kidnapped Israeli Arabs as well, that's why some of the Israeli Arabs serve in the army, because they understand that we are all in the same danger.

    I personally know a few people who were killed by terror attacks, one of them was a boy from my class who was stabbed to death in a bus, during his sleep by a young Palestinian from the WB, this was a bus that I used very often at that time.

     

     

  18. Posted

    11 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

    Omg

    They lie as often as they breath.

    Their propaganda is anything but innocent.

    But Israel is too far behind in its ability to fill the gap and exposing those lies. This is frustrating.

    I edited the message before you saw it 😶‍🌫️ I asked from where are you?

    Usually I don't feel comfortable to say where I am from because I'm a private person in general and I try to keep this is vague as possible.

    But since you are asking me directly and I can't lie to you, I'm actually an Israeli, live in Israel, I served in the Israeli army a few years ago and I still can vividly remember the 2006 Lebanon war when I was a child and Hezbollah bombed us.

    This is why I so passionate about the subject, because I speak from my perspective as an Israeli, same as you are. 

     

     

     

  19. Posted

    16 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

    I think the women won't be punished because of the fairly naive situation.

    But yes this is a problem Gazans face and they are so scared to tell authentic feeling against hamas especially in public, but there are such voices in the last days starting to appear.

    There was a common post on social media with a photo of an Israeli soldier talking to an elderly Palestinian man and another photo of his dead body claiming according to Hamas that the Israeli solider shoot him right after the photo was taken (even though the shirt on his dead body was different from the shirt shown on the photo with the solider).

    This man was killed by Hamas a day or two after the photo with the solider was taken. He was killed because of his innocent convo with the Israeli solider (which probably asked him how he is etc) was interpreted by Hamas as "cooperation with Israel". It seems pretty dangerous to either say something wrong about Hamas and looking friendly with Israeli soliders. 

    33 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

    Happy 4th candle🕯

    🌞🙌

    11 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

     

    I believe the majority of Israel dislike Netanyahu.

    It's not unique to the radical leftists in the video who are adding their leftist agenda.

    They believe they are awake but some would argue they are deep in their sleep.

  20. Posted · Edited by Lila9

    25 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

     

    Oh I didn't realize its actually candies for terror attack celebrations! 🍡🍬🧨🚀🔥

    What an immoral soldiers 😒😄

    No this is so bad I must balanced it out with some good news....

     

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    It's funny that when IDF are symbolically burning candies they are "the most evil in the world" but when Hamas raping women, beheading babies, burning people alive, they are freedom fighters, defending themselves and doing legitimate act of resistance.

    This level of hypocrisy... 🙄

    Is beyond my understanding.

    I hope this elderly woman in the article you shared will not find herself dead by some Hamas terrorist because she "cooperated with Israel". I hope Hamas wouldn't put their hands on her.

    They have no heart or mercy.

     

     

  21. Posted · Edited by Lila9

    3 hours ago, bariumly said:

    speaking of morals, here's what COWARDS do ! They don't fight with honor , they have evil inside themselves no matter how they pretend to show otherwise

     

    Lol they burn the candies supply which was given by Gaza citizens to the Hamas terrorists on October 7 attack.

    Gaza citizens celebrated the massacre of Israeli people with those candies. The IDF soldiers burn those candies as a symbol of fighting against the terror. 

    The amount of misinformation and the distortion of the truth on social media is fascinating.

     

  24. Posted

    5 hours ago, Nivsch said:

    Exactly. And they are complaining we want to put an end to hamas while sitting in their (yet) safe home at the foot of the mountain from which they just moralize and throw instructions to Israel and to the 20 yo half-kids who are risking their lives right now. How low of a behaviour and how low self awareness.

    Lol, their perception is indeed comes from ignorance and lack of real life experience of the conflict. All the info they gather is from biased X accounts. Intresting.