Razard86

You are dreaming. THE END. This is a dream. Its like asking what will happen on the next Movie in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. There is nothing to transcend. This is a DREAM, A STORY, and we are all the characters. Can Harry Potter transcend the Harry Potter series? No. Can Spider Man transcend the Spider Man series? No. Leo cannot transcend the Leo series. And you cannot transcend the Julian Gabriel series. You are the Universe....floating in an Infinite Void dreaming. When you awake you will realize....you were asleep. No different than your night time dream. But hey....its a cool story!!!

Well its both....depending on how you look at it. It doesn't help a person to believe it isn't real if in their direct experience it is real....its only told to people who believe its real so they can possibly discover for themselves it isn't. Its kind of funny when its discovered it isn't though.....you are surprised you ever took anything seriously.

So Science will eventually prove.....what was already discovered like 5000 years ago and then pat themselves on their shoulders and give themselves Nobel Prizes. What kind of silly game is this? Oh well watch this video if it interests you but what kind of silly delusion is going on? Humans claims to follow history well this so called "discovery" was already known. They didn't prove anything, they just verified what was already known.

^Quiet Tony Parsons. Who are you teaching?

^This is the only plausible thing to me. When I died I entered a void, sat there for a while was asked what I was and when I responded God is Infinity and this will never end I was told that is the correct answer and blasted out of that void and watched reality render back into being like a computer program reassembling reality back into place. Blew my mind when I saw it. Death is covered up through the projection of what we call life. Death houses life within it. All death is...is the falling away of what we call life lol.

Well hey....we all go through stages of realization...at one point I too thought those that lived on a hill in India were superior lol. I quickly dropped that notion later on but I did entertain it for awhile before I saw how foolish it was. The issue with being at a higher stage is it is sometimes hard for you to connect to previous stages because you are not living from that stage anymore. So I understand your confusion as to why seekers think that way....but think back to the silly stuff you believed 10 years ago. Hell I cringe at stuff I believed even a year ago lol!!

1. Well every form or lack thereof is a dream. Because God is a dream/story that tells itself a story. Its an infinite dream that knows itself (Self-Love) but wants to know itself completely (which it cannot because it is infinite) so the moment it knows anything...that knowing...is not it because a new recontextualization of that knowing comes into being. This is obviously beyond time and space etc. 2. The truth is.... we are actually both right now...form is formless that is an illusion of form. All form is....is sensations. Once all sensations are dropped all that is left is formlessness. So in truth we are formless right now...so there is no distinction between formlessness and form. There is only formlessness appearing as form. 3. The better question would be....at the moment the avatar drops....what other dream will there be. Will you stay as the God Head for all eternity or put yourself asleep to dream another finite world....the truth is...right now...both are actually happening simultaneously at this moment, so I guess the question is....when you zoom out from your finite perspective....what would be? I have no other clue honestly....it seems to me to be the next question to really entertain. Do you erase your memories and relive the same dream again? Do you pick another dream character? I have no clue honestly.

^ This is why God is a mystery unto itself. It can never completely know itself because it is always moving beyond what it knows. Infinite ever more recontextualizations for all of infinity.

I do think there is a higher way if you guys really want to become Lucid at a much more obvious level. But beware....you may not like what you see. I once ate an edible and I was able to see how I was controlling everything. Everything was in sync with me from my POV. Curt Jaimungal asked Leo how a person could become aware of themselves as God and Leo offered an easy way. He said take 5 MEO DMT 10 times at 30 miligrams. Now personally...I believe since a lot of you have probably already deconstructed so much already...if you took that substance a couple of times...you would probably be able to see in REAL TIME, how you are rendering everything....and be able to sense that you are the only conscious being in existence. So beware....being Lucid in the Dream......might spoil this illusion for you. Its not going to give you the ability to control it, but truthfully it will give the added benefit of stopping it from you taking it so serious. Good Luck. I am sure these exercises can help you on less stronger substances. If you really want to destroy the veil do these exercises on a substance of your liking that you feel raises your consciousness. I'll give you one other example. I was recently walking....I noticed that when cars were passing by...even as they rode off in the distance....I could still feel them driving on the road. Not just the sound of them driving...but I could feel the tires rolling on the road. Really concentrate and you will notice..you can feel them driving in the distance....that is PROOF that you are the road and the car....and they are driving in your mind.

^ This is a story we tell ourselves....I've recently taken certain risks that I normally would not and everything worked out fine. Now I am not saying be an idiot, obviously be very careful, and if you can get say psychedelics in a legal way do it. But you will be surprised how events can unfold and a psychedelic can land in your lap if you truly want to investigate reality. Its almost like.....that's the freaking purpose of this whole thing we call life....and everything else is just a distraction. Nothing wrong with the other distractions they form their own purpose....but it appears this could be the case. Of course...ultimately....everything written here is just a story....but dammit I like this story lol.

^ This is just parroting... not too sound mean but you need to drop the parroting. Reality is both known and unknown. What is known? Recognition. Reality would need to recognize itself TO COMMUNICATE with itself which is literally what is happening right now. Recognition is KNOWING. Without the ability to recognize itself it could NEVER communicate. Go try to communicate with someone in a language that you don't understand...you can't because you do not recognize that part of consciousness. You placed a limitation on yourself in consciousness. You can recognize the form of the language, but you cannot recognize the meaning that is being attributed to them. What is blindness? A lack of recognition of form. What is deafness? A lack of recognition of sound. So reality can know itself because it is itself, but because it is infinite....its knowledge of itself can never be stable, or grasped, the moment it knows anything....that knowledge can be transcended or recontextualized into ever greater meaning. Since it is eternal, its knowledge will never end so it cannot know itself completely because it can have infinite recontextualizations which is what creativity is. The part of reality that can never be known is the part of reality that holds all perception. Reality can only know itself through perception or what we can call the senses. Through the senses...it is created through sense-making what I posted up earlier in the thread. But paradoxically you can know it....through becoming aware through the contrast of that which is known....which is the sensory perception. So it is both known and unknown. If it wasn't known....it could never be pointed too... how can that which cannot be known...ever be discovered and pointed to? It points to itself....when it becomes aware of itself.....what we can say is it can never be known completely. This is true....but the issue is....infinity becomes VERY attached to its deception of form and is really hard for it to release its attachment. From one perspective it can be a cruel game that it is playing with itself.

The answer is yes and no. It is not beyond comprehension in the sense that comprehension is a story, and all it does is craft stories. As a result whatever stories it creates is always right....as long as it believes its own stories. Its also no because all stories are just self-imposed limitations, it can transcend any story it tells....but without story....it doesn't exist. So it needs to fool itself with elaborate stories.....so that it can have an identity.

Wow patience...what do you think I am trying to do? Its a process....I'm inching towards. That first post I just contemplated on more and more and I realized the profoundness of it. I need you to do the same. For example....Thought is a perception....a sense, so is sight (people forget this one), so is physical touch, taste, smell, so is the various emotions as well. These are all senses. Now...what many don't know is that silence is a form of sound...you can hear silence...which is the absence of what you call sound....so here is the BIG clue....lack of sense....is ALSO A SENSE. You see we get distracted by all our senses...what you need to focus your attention or sensing....is the GAP between all senses.....its there!!! That GAP...is INFINITY. DO YOU HEAR ME? THE GAP BETWEEN all sensory perception IS WHAT YOU ARE. That GAP is the same GAP when you enter the deep sleep, DREAM LESS SLEEP. Because since all existence or reality to us or life to us is sensory perceptions then the lack of any....would be to us DEATH/NON EXISTENCE. The funny thing is....you can sense that you are DEAD right now. I have noticed that if you take consciousness altering substances...they can free up or loosen your tightness or contracted sense of being the body which can make these practices easier to sense. I have another pointer for you. Make your index finger move.... notice that you can not make your index finger move by having a thought of I'm going to make it move. Try it. Think I'm going to move my index finger and you can see that the thought of I'm going to move my index finger doesn't move it. The only reason you REALIZE you are moving it is because of two things. Its connected to the body....which you identify as YOU, and you can FEEL that you are moving it. Notice this is just an identity trick. So....if I numbed your finger....you couldn't feel you are moving it....but you could still move it. Notice that you cannot explain...how you are moving it. Try it....you will notice...you cannot explain how you are moving your finger.....it just happens. Well that ability to move your finger....IS WILL. If you can notice that you can move your finger....without being aware you are moving it...the same way with breathing....and your heart beating....and your hair/nails growing....then you can realize....you are doing the same thing....with every thing you see =Weather, people....etc. Listen to a video with some headphones, close your eyes and listen intently. You'll notice that you can hear those voices within you, try to latch your attention onto every word, what you will notice....is you can predict what they are going to say slightly before they say it...why? Because those voices you are hearing inside? YOU are speaking them....inside....they are YOUR VOICE. We keep making distinctions between OTHER sensations....when every sensation is our sensation....even the ones we cannot sense. When Leo talks about raising consciousness he is saying.....the ability....to sense EVERYTHING. We play a disassociation game with ourselves, and create OTHERS to fool us!!! Which is HILARIOUS!!!! There is a song I use to sing in church as a kid. It went like this....He's got the whole world in his hand!" If you can sense into the gap between all sensory perceptions....and notice you are HOLDING all the perceptions within you....then you will see you have the WHOLE WORLD in your hand. The hand of your awareness. You are that empty lack of perception (cannot be seen, touched, tasted, smelled, or heard) but surprisingly...it can be felt....the same way you can feel silence you can feel the lack of any perception. That lack of perception is the hand of God which holds the WHOLE WORLD

Holykael=God. What kind of game you playing? LOL. Its like talking in the third person.

This...you can even send people....psychedelic trips. I had a friend send me his trip through dialog on the phone so yes, you are always engaged with transmissions all the time. Its all about the receptivity.

Please tell me you are joking.....PLEASE don't tell me the word cringe is being outlawed!!!

Well Free Will both exists and doesn't exist. Because of the illusion of separation, within that illusion free will exists, as the ego is a self-interference pattern. Now when the illusion falls away then free will is seen to have been an illusion. Now you might argue that if its an illusion then it was never real, but real and illusionary are actually the same. Because real and illusion is just an interpretation. Everything is just an interpretation of the senses (perceptions) so if I give you a drug that makes you walk in a circle in an alternate reality in which you are living a life for 30 + years I cannot no more tell you that life was imaginary anymore than this current one. Its all interpretation. Ultimately if everything is connected then there is no free will, but if illusion is still there then for you that is not the case. I respectfully suggest you realize you are overly complicating something very simple. Selflessness and Selfish is just another interpretation. Because if everyone is YOU, how can you actually be selfish? Your definition of selfish is not some hard line its something you change depending on the situation. I mean you are even talking about false selflessness? If truth is what is...if a person performed an act of selflessness can you even call it false regardless of the motivations? Also every act is selfish actually at all times. You have never done a selfless act in your entire life. Why? Because the DESIRE to be selfless is motivated by something selfish....which is desire. All desires is based on attempting to attain something which is a belief that something needs to be fixed or improved. Nothing wrong with that but as long as you think things need to be fixed or improved....you will always see problems....which is what the mind naturally does.

^ This is concept needs to die, its so laughably untrue I don't even know who created it. There are NO self-made billionaires. There never have been, or ever will be. Its literally impossible. There are infinitely too many arguments I can make for this being the case. The first is....they were taught language, second they were given tools and opportunities by others, the third money doesn't come from nowhere, you need others to even become a billionaire. If you are the only human on the planet...you cannot become a billionaire. This means population is highly connected to the mass accumulation of resources. So yeah....please everyone stop spreading this concept, its like saying someone can be a self-made driver. Who is going to pave the roads for you to drive? Who is going to build your car? Who is going to provide your gas and who is going to give you the parts you need to repair and maintain it? I know what the saying is TRYING to suggest but its direct message obscures this attempt. What the phrase means to say someone who with less help than most people, became a Billionaire. I get it....but I'll give you one tip. If you study any of these billionaires you will realize that events had to happen EXACTLY a certain way for them to make that money. Timing and the reaction of others was very important for them. So that same billionaire if they were born in a DIFFERENT era of OTHERS wouldn't be a billionaire. So again...the billionaire is inextricably linked with OTHERS. A billionaire needs OTHERS to become a billionaire. I don't want to send this thread into another direction just wanted to comment on that phrase cause its so annoying every time I see it.

Exactly

Subconscious does exist, you don't even know what you are saying. How do you think you are breathing? Subconscious, How does your hair grow? Subconscious. You are NOT CONSCIOUS of how you are doing it, thus the term...SUBCONSCIOUS. For you to be aware you would need to raise your consciousness so you become AWARE that you are currently growing your hair, your nails, and moving the entire universe. So don't play these games. And existence and non-existence are just more word games you are playing.

^And this is all love, nothing matters = No Thing, appearing as matter, which is...infinite love. Also playing games with itself is great, its what you are doing right now as well. We are all playing games, so what is the issue?

This Video is very applicable to Spirituality ( everything ultimately is but this is a nice juicy one) Life is just a game of identities that are constantly coming into contact with each other. Well this video has an interesting framework on how some story writers write their character profiles. Watch, and post if you want which one you think best describes you!!!

This right here ^. I have recently went through some personal hardships and my lack of fear of death is actually getting me through it. I have reached a state where I don't care either way and it makes panic....impossible. Panic only exists when you avoid either physical pain, emotional pain, or death. If you can accept all three (physical pain would be one of my weaknesses) but I can deal with emotional pain and death that would be the level I would suffer at. The path is all about facing these three and then you will be liberated. Its all an illusion at the end of the day, and its an illusion of your own making. You also both have free will/ and don't at the same time. The will of the universe is unconditional love, if you align yourself with that....then you won't suffer. At the level of resistance you have with unconditional love is the level of suffering. Give up rational thought, and focus on realizing that the present moment IS DEATH, the PRESENT MOMENT IS WHAT YOU ARE, THE PRESENT MOMENT is UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. Stop resisting, and feel into the present moment then you will realize, just maybe....THAT you are actually controlling everything around you. EVERY SINGLE THING. Everything is connected to you, you are even controlling me right now typing this comment. The ego is the filter that infinity is expressed, but the ego is just self imposed limits of the SELF. As you blink, breathe, grow your hair, grow your fingernails, the same mechanism that controls ALL THAT, is the same mechanism that is controlling the entire universe and all life forms, even that alien that Leo APPARENTLY became lol. Its all you, there is NO OTHER. So as long as you PLAY the victim role...that is the role you will suffer.

Holykael is just a reflection of infinity. Holykael= the part of infinity that gets lost deep in its dream and refuses to lay down its cross and realize its true nature. Until this is done, more torturing and suffering awaits and this will go on until this perspective/story collapses for the illusion that it is. Even the name gives it away. Holy= Divine. Kael= narrow. The Divine Narrow perspective which would be bias, and would be suffering. Its all as it should be.

Even that is a story, infinity can also imagine unconsciousness. ^This is more story. Only a bias would create meaning. All meaning is bias. So in one sense you are correct nothing is meaningless, but your statement suggests there is meaning to be found. There is none. Meaning is the creation of a bias mind. Which is obviously done out of love, but a bias limited love. Unconditional love= no distinction, no bias, no identity, no meaning, perfect balance, and as a result no meaning. Which is synonymous with love.