Arthogaan

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  1. Posted

    8 hours ago, Davino said:

    @Leo Gura 

    My real question about Frank Yang is the following: What do you think of his baseline consciousness?

    Let's not talk about the peaks of Awakening but someone that is interested in achieving the highest permanent realization possible.

    In this line, I find Frank Yang to be in an extraordinary base line of consciousness. He perceives a boundless 360º centerless sky of sensations. Where he is holographically conscious of all nanocorners of reality as empty & full simultaneously. He is in a flow present state 24/7 and is free from all suffering and identification with his own body and mind, everything appears as clouds of sensations indistinguishable from Awake Luminous Spacious Infinite Reality.  

    I honestly find this remarkable, this is not something to casually dismiss. This is the peak of what is achievable in constant everyday life. I do unstertand and have experienced myself how infinite Awakening can become, in a way that makes ridiculous wishing it to be permanent. However, I am working on both axis, in the deepest Awakenings possible but also, why not, in an impressive baseline consciousness. I find that you have traded baseline consciousness for higher Spiral Dynamics Evolution. Fair enough. But something is off with your baseline consciousness, it sometimes feel you have neglected that, in contrast with your other well polished facets like Maturity and Peak Awakenings. Have you thrown the towel after Awakening so hard?

     

    Yes! Baseline is what I am interested in now. For Leo highest value of his life is Understanding. So his exploring of highest, dangerous states with psychedelics is perfectly in line with that.

    But for me, for this body it's about Freedom, Fun, Lightness, Joy. All of that comes from mastering baseline.

    And I had major shift two weeks ago and altough I am not there yet it's totally obvious that Frank's levels of baseline are genuine and possible.

    Dissolving the feeling of center is crucial for baseline. When you look at the world and have no sense of location then it's like the universe takes care of your baseline on itself.

  2. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

    Yeah, it's a pretty good one... but man, the first Kung Fu Panda managed to tick all of my boxes. Great story, kick-ass action, superb humour, awesome characters, memorable dialogue, amazing message, the full monty! (The first five minutes alone are better than anything I've seen in other martial arts movies, with the possible exception of Kill Bill Vol. 1. Which says a lot!)

    It also didn't hurt that I had zero expectations when I first saw it. So please forget everything I just said and watch the movie from a blank slate. :P

    I am currently sick a lot in bed. So I will probably watch it.

    At some point in spiritual journey animated movies became much more interesting than many "serious" movies. There is so much creativity and other-world mechanics. Every frame is a piece of art like in Spirited Away for example. Didn't expect that.

    I was laughing that my sceptic, serious, scientific, materialist character from 10 years ago would never believe that I will like "Barbie" more than "Oppenheimer" but here we are...

  4. Posted

    1 hour ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

    Well, I went on the High Consciousness Resources subforum and there it was!

    The first movie was an absolute banger imo (it's probably my favorite CGI animated movie ever), the second one was "meh", and the third one I didn't even watch. Needless to say, I am highly suspicious about the new one... I have never seen a belated fourth installment of any trilogy that was worth watching.

    So my (perhaps unqualified) recommendation would be: Watch the first one, forget the rest.

    Did you see "Soul"? 

    It' my favourite animated so far.

  5. Posted

    19 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    There is a whole higher level of consciousness which is beyond the reach of most humans no matter how enlightened they are.

    I really like how Anna Brown - which was categorized on the forum as one of those neo-advaita people that say there's no-one to wake up - basically says the same thing as Leo when it comes that to the fact there is no-end to exploring infinite consciousness - 46:00 - 46:40

     

  6. Posted

     

    Breathing slowly, mechanical heartbeat
    Losing contact with the living
    Almighty TV plugged, hybrid empty brain
    Don't see anything real in the game

    The tension is building constantly
    No reason just a reflex I have, driven by clockwork
    I try to keep an eye open
    And I realize I haven't closed my eyes in a long time

    Neglected emotions leading to catastrophic voyage on the other side
    I have been given so much stress and lack of confidence
    I've been given the gift of so small hope deep inside
    I haven't close my eyes in a long time, I am trying

    I cannot stomach these forms and colors anymore
    But I'm here to continue, after all I have been through
    I try to keep my eyes open, I am realizing
    This life and death more precious than anything

    I won't bring no material in the after life
    Take no possessions, I would rather travel light
    I'm of this kind that kills all day
    But I don't know yet how to die

    Art of dying is the way to let all go
    Within I practice, in the secret of my soul
    My shape in the reflector has
    Now for ever, a life on it's own

  8. Posted

    42 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

    Alrighty, time for another entry in my little online travel diary (sorry that I have been so lazy with my updates... I guess I've been so busy having wild experiences that I haven't really found the time to write about them).

    Anyway, I will grace this new chapter of my travel blog with the poetic title

    Getting Stoned With A Bunch Of Crazy Honey Hunters - My Adventure In The Green Mountains Of Nepal

    So a couple of days ago, I hopped on a jeep that took me to a remote village close to the Himalaya mountains; it was a two hour ride across super rough dirt roads that was so incredibly bumpy that when I finally got out of the jeep, I was swaying to and fro as if stepping off a goddamn roller coaster. But what can I say... I couldn't believe my eyes when I entered the village. This place is so unbelievably quaint and picturesque that it is almost surreal. I swear, walking around here is like strolling through a movie set; it's like I've traveled back in time and ended up in a medieval Himalayan mountain village out of a freaking picture book. WOW.

    Now, one of the reasons why I chose to come to this specific place is because a little birdy told me that there might be a chance to join the local honey hunters for a trip into the hills and watch them pick off big honeycombs from the steep mountain cliffs (I've seen a documentary about this a couple of years back on Youtube and had it on my bucket list ever since); however, I could find no information about when this would be happening, so I decided to just try my luck, come here and see for myself what's up. And what do you know... the very next day after my arrival, there was a hunting party scheduled. They told me later on that they only do this type of activity twice a year... and I just happened to show up at exactly the right date. What are the odds, huh?

    So the next day I got up at 7am, did my morning Qi Gong and waited patiently for departure time; but since communicating with the locals can sometimes be a bit of a challenge (to put it very mildly), they left the village without me. So I hired a neighbour's kid to lead me to the honey cliff, and after a two hour hike through the forest we reached the place where they had set up camp; there were around fifty of them sitting in a circle together praying for good success, with a small fire in the middle on which water was boiling. (We had to walk the last hundred meters barefoot over the rocky forest ground - out of respect for the Gods, as they put it.) After an hour or so, two of them put on bee-proof overalls with head protection and got ready to climb on top of the cliff under which our little "hunting" party was gathered; the rest of them wore regular coats and make-shift nets in order to keep the bees at bay. All I had was a thin poncho and a shawl wrapped around my arms... but I figured that a few bee stings would be a small price to pay for witnessing this grand spectacle, so I said to hell with it, made myself comfortable near the fire and enjoyed the show.

    And what a show it was! The fellows who were designated to collect the honey went up the cliff, and after a while they threw down a thick rope on which a huge rope ladder was being attached and pulled up. One of the guys in the white overalls climbed down the ladder, pulled up a basket which he placed on a long stick and with another stick began cutting off the honey combs while swarms of bees jolted off the rock like angry black clouds; he filled the basket with the big yellow slabs and let it down towards the ground where the others grabbed it and collected the delicious booty.

    (Side note: The honey in this neck of the woods is commonly called "mad" honey since it is (in)famous for producing hallucinogenic effects; but the hunters told me that at this time of the year the effects are not quite as pronounced as when you collect the honey around the month of May. Be that as it may (get it?), I still felt pretty stoned when me and the boys finally went back to the village, for reasons that I shall lay out in the following paragraph.)

    After the honey combs were collected and cut up into sizeable chunks, they handed us some of the pieces so that each of us could get a taste... and it sure was super yummy stuff. Then they prepared rice and curry (with a dash of fresh honey, of course) and we all had a big celebratory banquet around the fire, including some very special local concoctions of moonshine alcohol. I ate the food with my bare (dirty) hands and slurped the booze out of a rugged metal dinner plate, all the while upset bees were buzzing around us; needless to say, half of the food and drink ended up as decoration on my already dirty trousers. Some of the guys were smoking homegrown weed from chillums and passed them around... suffice to say that it was a very convivial feast, lol.

    What an experience. To me, the whole thing felt like being part of a tribe that embarks into the woods and goes hunting together; even though technically I was just there as an onlooking tourist, I really felt like "one of them" and was treated as such by the rest of the gang. It certainly gave me an appreciation for the intense bonding effect that these types of activities must have had among human tribes since time immemorial... not to mention that it offered a fascinating insight into a foreign culture that is vastly different from anything that you are accustomed to as a European city slicker. It might sound like an overly romantic & naive cliché, but one can only admire the (more or less) healthy and robust simplicity with which these people live their lives; they certainly seem much less neurotic and screwed-up than your average Western joe, and much more in harmony with themselves and their surroundings. And they sure know how to have a good time out there in the wilderness, muahahaha.

    And before you ask... yes, I got stung by a bee, right under my left eye. But as I said earlier: It's a very small price to pay for such an amazing once-in-a-lifetime adventure, up here in the wild and beautiful mountains of Nepal.

    Namaskar!

     

    Holy shit dude. That's awesome. Reading this makes me really want just throw everything away and go for adventure.

    Please keep on updating us. :x

  12. Posted

    2 minutes ago, CosmicExplorer said:

    @Arthogaan "And just like Frank Yang says, that shift, of true centerless reality perceiving itself really feels like constant 5meo. "

     

    No it doesn't feel the same as 5-MeO God-solipsism. I dissolved that self-center feeling that Daniel Ingram or Frank are talking about, years ago and it doesn't feel the same as 30mg of snorted 5-MeO. Ask Frank to take a big hit of 5-MeO and then looking him in the eyes ask if it was just the same as he was 45 minutes ago, no way it's the same, you wouldn't even be able to function. Yes Frank has done frog venom but it was years ago before his Bhuddist enlightenment

    Yes it certainly isn't the same as breakthrough dose in the pure mindfucking amount of light and energy. But it has some fundamental basis I would say. Like it reveals the same structureless structure, and everything becomes covered in glitter in a similiar way. 

  13. Posted

    1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

    Reducing it to degrees of brightness misses a lot.

    I know it's the territory that is really hard to put into words, but maybe some facets come to your mind other than brightness? 

    Something like interconnectedness, self-comprehension, Alien-ness, strange-loopiness and so on?

  14. Posted

    20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    Dissolving of the self is a different thing than higher consciousness itself.

    You can dissolve the self all you want, but that doesn't mean your consciousness is high.

    I am not saying there's anything wrong with dissolving the self, but do not confuse that with serious consciousness.

    Consciousness is not described by any of these linear stage models or silly distinctions such as nothing vs God, or being vs non-being, or no-self vs Self, or whatever. This is all human-invented crap. And there is no such thing as some monolithic "natty state". All of these are very limited human constructs which keep you from accessing serious consciousness.

    No human being has natural or permanent access to the highest levels of consciousness. Certainly none of these spiritual teachers.

    Hmmm.

    I see it as buddhist enlightenment/permanent ego dissolution is a revelation of actual structure of reality - so now it is obvious that there is no structure, no center, that all is perceiving itself as pure luminosity/reality/imagination with no reference to any ground whatsoever - with one word - Boundlessness/Infinity.

    But then when you are left with this lucid soup of God/Love/Infinity you can increase it's luminocity, it's beightness, it's self comprehension. Just like increasing the brightness of lighbulb but now you are increasing the Awakeness of this Structureless Soup. And the brightness is not binary and it can go into infinity as well as realms of Alien kinds of brightness.

    Would you say it's more or less about that?

  15. Posted

    1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

    These distinctions are so stupid.

    You will never transcend Infinity/God.

    I really think it's a time for a long detailed video of why you do not consider buddhist enlightenment is a proper awakening. Because for quite some time you just dismiss it without really explaining what you mean.

    How is the experiential and permament dissolution of separate self not the real shit? What the hell do you mean? Because for me god realization, absolute sollipsism, not only knowing but viscerally feeling that this is all a dream - all of this came before fully dissolvong the separate entity. And just like Frank Yang says, that shift, of true centerless reality perceiving itself really feels like constant 5meo. 

    I thought he was bullshitting, until I experienced the dissolution myself.

    So I would really appreciate you addressing it really thoroughly, because that is like a very core of what actualized.org is about.

    And I believe Roger Thisdell description of 5th stage is really pure, to the point and non dogmatic, so it would really be great if you addressed his points. 

     

    Some of us really care about not stopping. But you are not giving us detailed explanation. It's been more than a year without deepest awakening type video. That would be a great candidate. Or at least some longer 2 A4 pages long forum post. :x

  16. Posted

    2 hours ago, Zeroguy said:

    Are you too?

    No hihi.

    I love it. Of course not by all but we have several fucking sages on here on forum and also some brilliant teachers on youtube. After my shift (ego dissolved 2 weeks ago) i have new inspiration and I just love this so much

     It's like I finally understand 100% of what they speak about. Altough now I don't need anymore because journey is done. But it's like poetry. Nothing more interesting for me that this :x

  19. Posted

    59 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

    It's funny how examining and theorizing about the nature of distraction can itself become another distraction. It's the ultimate self-preservation trick of the (monkey) mind... "let me think really hard about thinking so that I can finally find a way stop thinking."

    Very shrewd, isn't it? It's like f***ing in the name of virginity, to quote George Carlin. Hah!

    Hahahaha exactly.

  22. Posted

    16 minutes ago, Brandon Nankivell said:

    Shouldn't I just be eternally perceiving a boring, motionless, static snapshot, and basically have 'eternal amnesia' of ever having seen a different snapshot to the one I am perceiving right NOW?

    Yooo, that is a great inquiry. Never thought about that.

    After contemplating for some time I think there is a certain limitation that comes from viewing it through movie-frames-analogy. Because that analogy kind of comes with an assumption that there are small jumps between frames. But it's not entirely true.

    Like this NOW is also fluid like soup of sensations and colors. It's like ever morphing play-doh. It doesn't change in time, because time does not exists. It just changes like fluid. Concept od time is something that happens inside this fluid. So no need for jumps and therefore we should not perceive static.

     

  23. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

    Yeah, but the thing is, when your perception gets infinite there is no question about others or others povs, there is just dissolution into a ONE boundless Unity.

    Is the death of the ilusion, so is the death of the self, but inevitably also of the others. 😃

    Because others could Only exist if there was a self in the first place ♥️

     

    Agreed bro :x

  24. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

    You wont ever ever experience other thing that IS not "This experience".

    Yet, that IS not the point...The point is "This Perspective" can radically get different and profound.

    "this experience" does not have the same profoundity when you are drinking 3 beers VS when you are reading a book at your home VS when you take a psychedelic VS when you chant a mantra Alone in nature for 6 hours.

    So IS not totally correct to assume "This Experience" as that IS something means limited or "Alone*.

    It feels limited because your perception is limited. But It can get unlimited.

    I fully agree.

    It's beautiful unbounded lucid luminous impersonal centereless unlimited.

    But still only This seems to be happening. No others. No other povs happening somewhere in eternity.

    Just This.