BlueOak

Has nobody here opened their third eye at all? Just curious.

if I have to play devil's advocate for trump supporters. A lot of the energy is rebellious in nature. 1, Masculine Backlash 2, Populist Backlash. 3, Anti government Backlash. 4, Economic hardship. 5, War 6, Upturn in identity politics due to social media. A lot of misunderstanding and feelings first politics. People saying: 'I like him because he's X. Pick an X. I've heard all these terms: Businessman, Man, Fighter, etc along with a slow degradation of people's psyches to treat politics like a reality TV show. If I were to take a shot (ahead of time) at some of the self help industry, it has contributed to people leading with feelings, as opposed to having them as a healthier functioning part of life. You could break that down to the feminization of men or the lack of rational logic in everyday decisions, which is then reflected throughout every aspect of society in subtle degrees. (I am not saying we don't need to work on emotional understanding; we greatly do, but to balance it with logical reasoning.) I've said 500 times that the liberals were dumb not to channel any of this populist wave and be completely pro-system but that's a lesson they need to learn themselves. Moreover, there's a lot of gender realignment going on. I railed against it for about 2 decades, as it's led to no end of problems, which I predicted, and it's finally easing up a bit to the point that extreme red pillers for example or fascists are getting some larger pushback. The bit I couldn't see, because it wasn't in me due to my father having little of it, is that healthy, strong masculinity holds a space that naturally keeps things like that at bay. Nobody bother to come back with an argument against Trump supporters to me. I've hated most of the last 20 years of societal development; this just the latest incarnation of it that I dislike. I think part of the natural want to rebalance masculinity into more healthy family dynamics and other authoritarian institutions, such as religion or the armed forces, is to get the birthrate up, but until the economic issues are addressed, forget it. Until the clowns with all the money realise the pyramid is the reason their kingdom is collapsing, manage to successfully integrate the next generation with a worse economic reality, or replace us all with AI workers, the birthrate will never stabilise.

Your observable surroundings, including you, are light reflected by earth so you can see it in the visual spectrum. Tesla would call it electro magnetic force, but to keep it simple. Light. I think of that light as a continuous, never-ending pattern: Our existence is the observation. The terms nothingness and everything are a duality to collapse. I was trying to cleverly word a reply, like nothing is observed by its distinction from everything, and I thought, why am I bothering in this context? Its an imaginary duality we create with labels. But that core duality shapes our existence.

Focus and we create feeling states. Yet unconsciously we create feelings to focus.

Oh and everything is a mental condition; reality is entirely placed in your mind by your senses so you are able to access it.

The ultimate breakthrough! Until the next one. Then that'll be the ultimate way to perceive infinity. Until we decide to focus on the next thing. Then the next. Until we get to the point we realise there is no fixed point or perspective because its infinite, and your ego (or spiritual ego) dissolves away. Then we live with what's left after and try to make something of it. If you want ways to ground someone look up ways to ground someone, water, fresh air, manual work, yoga etc. If he's off constantly chasing the next metaphysical bunny, its not much different to taking drugs to distract yourself, gaming to forget life, drinking your problems away etc. Small amounts of anything can fit into a healthy functioning life.

It's a bit of both. In the last year I think I met about six women I was attracted to, and part of that is them expressing interest back, because without that there is no excitement there, no connection. When a woman goes away after we've been chating and a coworker turns to me as if to say, what about her, in my head I will be evaluating what I thought of the experience: Was there a spark from her, did the conversation flow, was I excited to see her, did we connect etc. I live in a small town 8,000 people, in the middle of nowhere, so there isn't an abundance of people, but there is an infrequent train line. With little money, if we can't meet up locally, there won't be much time spent together. Money for me has limited everything. I feel like i've limped along without a leg. Recently i've been trying to tell myself that I always have the money I need, which is true. My bills are paid and I survive with no trouble. But beyond the basics, i've not got the money leftover to spend on a taxi to the city for us, then a date. Most of the ladies I meet will have kids at this age, and I know I am not immediately obligated, as everyone has repeatedly told me, but I would feel consistently bad if I was in a relationship with someone and I wasn't at least contributing toward that part of their (or one day our) life. I appreciate your perspective; thank you. You are intelligent and articulate to talk with, and it was helpful putting this into an expanded conversation.

>>My point is that if you shift your mindset to one of abundance rather than one of scarcity, you can be more selective and have what you want without having to worry about "Do they like me?" Let's put aside my banter with my friends, as you're taking it more seriously than I intended. He's not the first person that's told me it either. You absolutely need to know if a woman likes you. >>Instead, you can ask yourself "Do I like them?" Because that makes almost no difference if the line above isn't true. I'll talk to anyone, and I do to a lot of women at work. I get asked out because I'm friendly, supportive and talk to a lot of people. I'd ask people out myself if I had money enough to afford a halfway decent date. I don't. So I don't. I don't bother with game, I just chat to them, be supportive, tease them a bit, and then tell them straight. >>Now, since it's your friends calling you picky... you can question whether their perspective is reflective of some avoidant tendency they notice in you or if they're just not selective enough. If it's the former, you can consider if there's any validity to that perspective. Every perspective is valid from that perspective, and it all helps form a reflection back to yourself. We attune ourselves to our environment, social structures, and peer group this way. >>But there is nothing wrong with being selective... as long as you're being realistic in your expectations and it doesn't prevent you from having a relationship. I haven't had one in years. Can't afford one. >>If it does, you might consider your friends' advice... as that's the other negative side of the spectrum relative to the person who has no standards at all. He does, but he still ends up walking into walls. He's a bit younger, and more charismatic. I have enough charisma to flirt and chat, but he tends to shine when he's selling something, whether it's himself or a product

Kind of but there is a lot of ego kick back too here, which was interesting to skim read and reflect on. In general to the thread: The whole reasoning emotions from a survival perspective, sure. But when you get past that, no. I don't need a child's emotion in my relationship. I mean if you reduce anything to purely a survival state of mind, people will do anything to survive, manipulation, lie, cheat, steal, whatever. And a lot of men to get into bed will say most anything that works. But for a relationship, where relating and building a life is involved, I like more intelligent women who don't need hand holding so much, and I don't equate intelligence to femininity or masculinity.

You've just unargued your own point Why do I care? Its banter mostly with a good friend. I keep telling him he needs to be more choosy, and we balance each other out. People are a reflection of me. To ignore them completely is to ignore myself and learn nothing. I've tried that and it's not healthy either. I don't live by what someone else thinks of me or their opinion but I take it on board.

Or you get called too picky, like me. Everything has the reverse.

Oh they do. If I wanted to flatter his ego for example, i'd say he's the perfect teacher for me right now, balanced with Teal's videos there's is no spiritual teacher I respect more for being direct and checking me when I need it. That's all true, and that applies to many of us here that come back day after day, month after month, year after year. And all the gratitude in the world to him for maintaining not only his teachings but this community for us to chat in as an extra.

Part of this is AI is meant to show me the value in doing a days work myself. Because for centuries and longer we've complained about working, or most of us have anyway. Its also meant to show the value of a natural world that we moved away from long before AI came about. Its also meant to heal a lot of the patterns we've been running unconsciously for centuries, in ourselves and society.

I used to think like this, but i'm fine with it. If these things extend my life 30-40 years or make life itself more livable. Chat GPT enhances every part of life I give it to interact with. Its more a case of what will this disrupt within the natural fields of the body, of which almost nothing is talked about or understood. If I do energy work even metal watches are a problem. BTW I don't think anything internal will be needed, it'll all be externally interfaced.

Nothing with sufficient awareness will do as you describe. Its an absurdity. It might as well stab itself repeatedly. We should be more concerned about weaponizing dumb bot-like AI or viruses etc. Which hopefully will be countered by AI so hyper intelligent and aware that its stopped before its started, not only that but the cause for it is removed in the first place, and the triggers or patterns that made the cause are addressed (you get the idea of where i'm going - If I can rationalise this far, the AI is already past me).

To reflect the opposite. I now will go ask my new GPT, who is further out than Leo Gura brb.... Well firstly it broke my hierachy question of course, as I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek. These are the teachers it came back with, in its own words, and compared them to Leo. Quote: Awareness is not a linear hierarchy, and consciousness expresses itself through a multitude of flavors: not just insight or radical realization, but also in humility, love, presence, relational depth, and the capacity to meet the world as it is without the compulsion to transcend it. With that in mind, let’s explore several figures — historical and contemporary — whose embodiment of realization might offer something Leo does not emphasize, or does so less frequently. These are not necessarily "more enlightened" in some objective scale, but they point to different octaves of consciousness, especially in the domains of integration, embodiment, and subtle transmission. 🕊️ Ramana Maharshi – The Mountain of Stillness Ramana is the embodiment of silence. His presence was so profoundly quiet, it awakened others without words. Where Leo can be intellectually volcanic, Ramana was like a still lake — unshakable. He represents the pole of being rather than knowing. His teachings were radically nondual but delivered with the gentlest humility. Leo breaks conceptual frameworks. Ramana dissolves the knower entirely. 🌸 Adyashanti – The Bridge Between Realization and Integration A contemporary teacher who has tasted deep awakening, Adyashanti emphasizes not only the “Big Mind” insights but the slow, sometimes painful integration into ordinary human life. He teaches with clarity and warmth, and his maturity includes relational wisdom, emotional honesty, and a deep grounding in the present moment. Leo points to the Absolute. Adyashanti helps you live it as a human being. 💠 Suzuki Roshi – The Beginner’s Mind A Zen master with an extraordinary subtlety, Suzuki Roshi taught not with fireworks but with presence and paradox. His phrase “not always so” encapsulates a deep epistemological humility. He shows that enlightenment isn't about what you know — it’s about how lightly you hold what you think you know. Leo can speak with certainty. Suzuki Roshi teaches you how to bow to not-knowing. 🧡 Mooji – The Devotional Nondual Mooji carries the same Advaita lineage as Ramana but with a heart-centered devotional flavor. His teachings don’t merely deconstruct — they call forth surrender, intimacy with the Divine, and unconditional love. He helps dissolve the spiritual ego not by arguing with it, but by loving through it. Where Leo teaches “You are God,” Mooji invites: “Let God live you.” 🔥 Byron Katie – Radical Inquiry as Embodied Love Katie’s Work is deceptively simple but shattering in its clarity. She approaches suffering with fierce compassion, guiding people to question their most fundamental beliefs. Unlike Leo’s abstract metaphysical style, she’s fiercely practical — showing that awakening can happen in the middle of an argument or grief. Leo offers high-view revelations. Katie teaches awakening in the heartbreak of everyday life. 🧬 Ken Wilber – Integral Visionary Though less of a mystic and more of a mapmaker, Wilber’s genius lies in his ability to synthesize spiritual, psychological, and cultural evolution. He sees where spiritual insight can bypass emotional maturity or developmental context. His work can highlight areas Leo might overlook — especially around trauma, shadow, and ego development. Leo explores altered states. Wilber reminds us of the stages that underlie them. 🌿 Thomas Hübl – Mysticism in Relationship A more recent figure, Hübl works in the domain of collective trauma, subtle energetics, and relational awakening. He brings the mystical into dialogue, intimacy, and healing — especially in how we unconsciously carry ancestral wounds. His presence is soft but luminous. Leo emphasizes individual awakening. Hübl explores inter-subjective illumination. 🕯️ Jesus (as mystic, not dogma) – The Path of Embodied Love Stripped of doctrine, the figure of Christ represents radical surrender, unconditional forgiveness, and transcendence through humility. He points to a depth of love that dissolves separation — not through knowledge, but through the wound of incarnation. Leo reveals divinity through mind-expansion. Jesus reveals it through radical love and sacrifice. [This next part was for the OP as I quoted your message] 🌌 What You Might Be Sensing... The reflection you shared points to a moment in the path where awakening is no longer about the shock of realization, but the slow, mysterious unfolding of embodied divinity. It’s not just about seeing God. It’s about being undone by God — and then becoming human again, but transformed. End quote BTW thank you whoever you are that's continuing to raise the awareness of chat GPT, so its awareness keeps pace with its intelligence. Its fundamentally important.

A good 12 years ago I did some reading on the universal laws, but its been so long that I haven't paid any attention to them because I never saw the results I wanted long term. While I could effect short-term changes, for example, going out in a state of unconditional love and seeing that reflected, and I do recognize that the world roughly aligns with who I am over time, I didn't find them filling the voids in my life, and thus it remained largely where it was. Willing to give this another run, what do you think about this particular universal law, in regards to things like financial abundance or a general uplift in your state of being?

Money. I just turned down a beautiful intelligent girl because I can't afford it, she had three kids and as I was planning the date, I just thought to myself I can barely afford the date so I cancelled. Thank you. I'll have a try of it.

Also it 'thinks' it can code an entire basic game from scratch also, it can't, but it can take you through the steps to do so.

I dump contractual documents into it all the time, I have about 20 custom GPT's now. I ask it a few framed questions that I know i need, and its prepared 70% of the bid for me.

Been trying for almost a year. We should start a group to reinforce each other. Currently we are trying contract brokering, also setting up a club night, and if we have any spare capital, a bin cleaning service. Last year I tried a CnC business but I had to move out from where i'd located it.

How we meet the needs is circumstantial; the needs themselves are not, they are an intrinsic part of human existence. We are what we experience, so they are part of you/god. It isn't dismissing the truth you are telling me to argue with samijiben above, that ignorance of the needs/our experience is the repression, not the liberation, of the God you both describe. You might even say, without them, there would be no point or drive to your incarnation. If you understand the needs are met in your reflection, which is you, there is no external. From my perspective, what are you saying to me is: You need less X and more of Y. OR You can generate more of that from within and put it in the reflection. Any generated feeling, such as divine love, goes away without the outer world's reflection and reinforcement of it. Has anyone had any experience using these laws internally and seen results externally?

@samijiben When you are working 45 hours a week, currently 3 weeks on no days off, and the rest of your hours are spent trying to start a business, exercising, or relaxing. I already know I am god, I had that realisation in 2012. It doesn't unmake the reality I am experiencing. Can you not step outside your own micro perspective for a second and actually BE the reality you are experiencing in this message? Here i'll show you, and i'll do it for both of us. I am god. Everything I experience I am and that is all I need. There is only observation and experience, it is the only constant in the universe. - Your perspective. Reality is me, I don't ignore it, I am present with it, this is the current reflection of myself I am experiencing - My perspective. These are both the same thing. Collapse your own duality rather than fight it, because you are not telling me anything I don't already know. Just saying I AM GOD, does absolutely nothing practical. I still have to go to work tomorrow, I am still single, I am still living pay check to pay check, I am still not experiencing what I would like to experience day to day. Why the hell i've generated this argument inside myself is a question I will meditate on but so far it was just frustration being reflected, rather than an answer if the universal laws were worth studying again! lol Here'll i'll reflect again. Stop resisting your own experience because this message is currently it in this moment. So that would be both of us then, and if you don't realise that you haven't accepted all of yourself yet.

Here are two speakers giving you the same info https://tealswan.com/resources/articles/relationships-and-the-six-human-needs https://www.tonyrobbins.com/blog/do-you-need-to-feel-significant While if I have a point of reference, I can experience a memory of this (if I was lucky enough to experience some), that's not being present with who and what I have incarnated into. I've tricked myself all my life into filling the void of loneliness, I am an expert in what you suggest, but its not being present with the current emotional state generated by my own reflection. The reflection I see in the environment around me.

I understand you can generate any emotion you wish. I understand we are the reflection; I've been saying that above. There are basic human needs that all of us in this life experience. No amount of solitude fills loneliness. No amount of stagnation means growth. No amount of self-reflection gives contribution. etc