LSD-Rumi

Oh, I understand now why the US made such a fuss in the Netherlands a few months ago. Easy money makes devils I guess. I hope the Chinese take care of us now

The chemical structure is known, I think this is all you need to do some tests. But again, I wouldn't take the chirch word for it. They sound very sketchy with that high price tag. If they want to prove themselves honests. They can send samples to multiple labs and show us the results. I think they sent a sample to Hamilton Morris and he denied the existence of such substance in their shrooms. I still give them the virtue of doubt but I think they are scammers or at least idiots by a large margin. Don't spend your money on them until they show you some tests from verified labs. Invest that money in other psychedelics. You will buy a year worth of psychedelics or even more with that money.

@Benton Really? I should take the church word for it who charges 350 dollars for the ounce and dismiss an unbiased test that denies the claims of the church? The test is easy, any lab can do it. Don't be so gullible, treat anyone who wants to take your moeny with a lot of suspicion. The whole idea is sketchy from beginning. There are a lot of psychedelics out there that can be easily made in large quantities. No need for these silly things.

It is a scam. Gizro sited a study on the content of these mushrooms. They failed the test, no psilomethoxin was detected in them

People like to be promised good, it makes them very gullible.

@Yimpa cool, so it does have a psychedelic effect. I tried Deschloroketamine ( DCK), it was Great, but it was mainly around Love.

@Yimpa how does ketamine feel? can you describe the experience?

A disciple tells a story about his sufi master that happened in fornt of his eyes. The master just have finished his talk and he is preparing to leave, he entered his car, a person then hurried to close the door for the respected and loved master. They kept talking for a minute and the master was smiling and giving his blessing for that person and then he left. The mastered calmly opened the door of the car and brought in his bloody hand and fingers. It turns out that person closed the door on the master's hand and the master didn’t want for that person to feel sorry and hate himself for closing the door on his beloved master, so he made sure he never knew This is the true test of love, not silly spiritual talk and philosophical masturbation. Spiritual insight should be backed up by a lot of spiritual integrity.

It means to love others as love yourself. It matters because love matters.

What is it like to die? What do you experience exactly? I think it happens this way. You get shot for example, you are lying on the ground, You cannot move your body, you are seeing in front of you while bleeding, Then you die. You feel like a soul leaving the body, it levitates upward, it gets hazy, Everything starts morphing into this mixture of colors and there is light, you keep moving upward or forward, then you hear a cry, "whaaa, whaaa", you lose all your memories and all your analytical skills. Welcome to your new body, you become a baby.

I thought that too. I certainly overdosed the first time thinking it was as potent as the other ones. But I took it another time at lower doses and it generated the same experience. It left me depressed and tired. Maybe my body is allergic to this substance. I was so depressed I had to take DCK in the third day, and thank god I did, everything was gone. I did high doses on many other dissociatves, like 3 meo pce, o-pce, 3 meo pcpy, and DCK and non of them generated any negative effects like that one. At some point during the 3 ho pcp trip, I felt strong suicidal urges to the point I felt I could just get off the bed, take a knife and slash my throat right away. It was devilish. But I don't know, I didn't read any negative things online about this substance. Maybe my brain interacts negatively with the substance.

I miss the "heyyyy" times ?

Previously I had this definition of hell that is the sinking into the ego, the total control of the ego over you, when the anger, the hatred, the fear, the primitive impulses within you that forms the ego, increase to such a high degree that your life turns into hell. It is the opposite of the spiritual path, the devil path. I then adopted another definition, a more complex one. Hell is the collective suffering of all beings. It is the price we pay for existence. It is the suffering endured by animals for humans to exist. It is the suffering endured by humans to give rise to the next generation. It is the dark that comes with the light. Hell is the byproduct of existence, it cannot be eliminated. Life comes in a package, hell comes with heaven. Leo says there is some hell dimension that he experienced, but this could be just his personal hallucinations.

I have always wondered if it is possible to experience being a stone for example or a bacteria or if these things are capable of capturing consciousness in the first place, like the human brain does. But I think I know now what it is like. When you are a stone, you are in total darkness, you don't have any thoughts, you just exist, when Someone tires to break you with a pickaxe, you feel the vibrations as an experience without any thoughts. When you are a bacteria, you are in total darkness too, you feel your body, you feel your tail wiggling and you feel your body split in half when it is time for replication. what do you think guys?

@amanen When you experience being a tree, you have the picture of a tree in your experience and you feel your boundaries as those of a tree, but you really didn't become a tree, to become a tree, you must stop being human and start experiencing being a tree. I still don't know if inanimate objects do have consciousness or if they are just things we generate with our own consciousness.

Did you become the bottle tho, or just just saw a bottle of a milk from far and felt your boundaries as the boundaries of a bottle because these are two different things.

I think each one of these parts has its own boundaries. The part is concious and the whole which is made out of the parts is conscious too.

because, the rock is so low in on the consciousness level that these things are not possible for it. I feel the only things that are allowed for a rock are the feeling of its boundaries and other minor sensations. Of course I am merely speculating here.

@OBEler I felt everything but I didn't resist so It didn't feel bad at all. Maybe I was too fried to resist in the first place Being rapes as a women is like I always imagined it to be. I don't know it was strange but familiar.

Is Ben Shapiro that idiot to host Tucker?

because feeling is the lowest form of existence there is (other than deep sleep). For example, you can lose your sight, your hearing and your sensory system but you are still there, you are still sequstered in the form of a human, you still feel your boundaries, otherwise, you will cease to exist. When a stone get hammered by a pickaxe, the expeirence of vibration happens regardless of any sensory input, Consciousness is prior to any sensory output. Believe it or not You can see even when you are blind. And I think a stone can feel even without a brain.

@OBEler I love brutality and violence, I made myself love them as a spiritual practice. Now LSD is known to induce visions and experiences that are so real. I once imagined myself as a woman and I was raped by two men, I could feel their hands harassing me, their dick inside me, then I was pregnant and I gave birth to a child. I could feel the child coming out of my uterus, I then became the child which was of course was Jesus christ I also once Imagined myself as a prey being eaten by a raptor. I could feel the raptor standing over me, tearing me apart and eating me alive. The experience was not negative in any means, it was just weird. Anyways, It looks like it depends on the person and their tendencies. But I also noticed that such things happen when I let my mind be loose, and working freely on its own. When I guide the mind, such thoughts don't come.

@RebornConsciousness I used to force myself to love Joffery as a spiritual practice

So much to learn from, I like her non-bullshit attitude, bold and aggressive and direct while keeping it funny

for a stone, there is no conept of fun or not fun, it is just there existig without any thoughts, objections or feelings. It is not bad or good, it is just an insanely neutral experience.