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I don't know if you watched the video or not, but it's the mind that is going crazy without it's usual "fix" if stimuli. He's going through withdraw symptoms not much different than a drug addict would experience.

@Callum A Truth is simple. People are complicated.

Yes.. It's known as The Devine Wind.

@Morten The mind never likes to sit still for long. That is perfectly natural. Here is a vid I just found on the subject that I thought was interesting. on the subject. I thought it was interesting.

@Dodoster We're all performing a death defying act.

There's something even stronger than 5meo that really sheds the ego. It's a little known substance called Anti-Matter. 1.85457 microns up each nostril and there is no head to unzipper.

Swimming trough life? No, freefalling through life.. Terror? You have no chute!

@Dodoster Did you ever consider skydiving ? I hear the fist time you jump is terror that turns to bliss.

This may be exactly what the "rational world" is.

@alifesurreal This universe/reality may turn out to be just one big thought process and nothing more.

@alifesurreal You may be missing something. That something is the direct experience of what is outside of reality. From that point of view reality collapses into an illusion. Physical reality is still reality as far as the mind and body are concerned, but it becomes an inferior reality by comparison. Think of it this way, what is infinite and changeless far overshadows what is finite and forever changing. Reality than takes on kind of a cheep plastic, flimsy feeling by comparison.

@Dodoster How do you know there wasn't a more important part and you just don't remember it?

@Just Do Nothing A lot of this work is about facing down that exact feeling of instability. After a while, it's like, Who is there to be unstable? The answer usually comes up the same, The illusion of the egoic self. And I think that cannabis does do a fine job of isolating the egoic self for closer inspection. You know the THC in cannabis is the plants natural defense system from it's predators. If an animal ingests the cannabis plant, it becomes more self aware and that induces a feeling of paranoia b-c it feels more vulnerable within it's surroundings. And in doing so avoids eating that plant again at all costs.

@Callum A Not really much to really talk about. It was more of just an experience of infinity. Pushing the door open for a small glimpse would best describe it. It's funny though how once that door to infinity is opened, even if just a little, that it never really closes again. And every bit of practice after becomes more of the pushing that door a little farther open. I guess the difference with 5meo would be the door swings wide open and your instantly thrusted into infinity.

@Callum A Yea, It seems that when the mind shuts up all that remains is the stillness. And who knows what could emerge out of the stillness.

@Callum ASame here! I had my first taste of infinity through the same conditions. I remember looking at a sunset and I had realized that I'm not just seeing one sunset, but all sunsets that have ever been and will ever be into infinity. One sunset had become infinite sunsets. Than once I had some "traction" (as Leo calls it) on that I followed that feeling of infinity into it's depths until is swallowed up everything in existence. How deep could that go? I think infinitely deep.

I like that!

I wanted to add these personal statements made by two well known scientists on parallel universes, I found them intriguing. "I don't have to think of myself as isolated and just here, but I've got all these brothers out there. Theses copy's of me as one spread throughout the universe. I'm everywhere in a strange sense" Professor Anthony Aguirre "It makes me take myself much less seriously because in the grand scheme of things, my little problems aren't such a big issue. And also I think it takes the pressure off having to get things right all the time when I know that there are all the other Max's out there succeeding where I failed- and failing where I succeeded" Physicist Max Tegmark

@Leo Gura Science explains it as the multiverse. Infinite parallel universes. The reality we know being just one copy of an infinite number of identical realities, similar realities and any variation you can and can't imagine repeating into infinity.

@Shin That sure opens up a nice space. Here's one of my favorites @ 28:00 If infinity had a soundtrack, I think this would be it. Edit: Infinity has infinite soundtracks. This being one!

Why carry the burden of a lifetime?

@Gavalanche As far as "interpreting" the visual field, like most people your probably an expert at interpreting reality by now because "you" have been doing exactly that since birth. Which of course is a wrong way of seeing the world and must be thrown away. The straight up answer is what you are is the awareness of this field of reality. You are awareness without the interpreter. I believe that is what Leo is referring to when he speaks of "flattening the image". But that's not to say that from the minds point of view that 3d reality can't be experienced as a 2d flat field from time to time. It can! Reality can seem as if it is happening on a movie screen. And at other times reality can be seen as being in super hi depth. Colors get brighter and more vivid and the clarity is enhanced as if it takes on a deeper dimension than what is "normally" experienced by the individual self. It suddenly feels as if God is seeing through your eyes. That is an amazing way to interpret the visual field. If you could call it that. *I asked the about the same question as you ask here months ago. I was perceiving reality in a few different ways at that time (as mentioned above). I got no replies so don't bother searching it for answers. That was when I first experienced the "flat field" visual phenomenon happing so I figured it was just me that had experienced that. Or maybe nobody wanted to talk about it. Who knows? But I'm glad you asked too. And here is yet another way my mind interprets the visual field of reality. Think of being at the bottom of an ocean of reality. Awareness being the water that surrounds everything you see. Just as everything in the ocean is surrounded and exists within water, so too is all of reality within awareness.

My guess is you wouldn't be remotely aware of it. *I would suppose all "this" would fall away into one. VR included.

@electroBeamDo you think it could be something hidden that is trying to surface from your subconscious? I'm not saying it is but it could be a possibility.

@Acharya Most times when I meditate I eventually enter a state of no thought- pure awareness. That will last as long as I meditate and continue for various lengths of time afterward. (eyes closed and breath/mantra meditation) When experiencing no-self, I went about 40 minutes once before the sense of self returned. (not meditating/eyes open). I'm sitting here now turning off the thoughts to observe a still mind, now that we're on the subject. I'm not sure how long I could go without a thought and remain as pure awareness. I never purposely tried. I usually end up coming out of a still mind because I'll allow the thought to surface "This is boring and I have things to do". Lol But if I ignored that thought I would say I could remain without a full blown thought for quite some time. I should try it sometime. Still the mind through meditation and than see how long I can go without a thought and remain as awareness only. *Have you ever noticed that when the mind is totally placid, you can sense when a thought is trying to come to the surface and head it off before it becomes a full blown thought.