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@Serotoninluv I have never partaken in Ayahuasca ceremony. From what I gather there is much knowledge and wisdom that becomes available. Just to ask from your experience. What exactly is that body of knowledge? Does that even make sense to ask? If it does. What holds that wisdom? Could it be released from our own DNA or something within us? A cellular blueprint of the universe?

@Serotoninluv I can't even imagine how many doors that must open at one time. Look out!

@phoenix666 Know this. When you do decide to take that leap of faith. You will find there is a safety net there that is waiting to catch you. Only you can experience what that is. It can't be conveyed in words. But it's there. It always has been.

@phoenix666 I know what I said is shocking to the ego. But your still in control if you felt the effects of freefall starting. You can decide when it's right for you to take the complete plunge. If you would have done a drug, you wouldn't have that control of backing out. Take your time. No rush.

Alright. Here we go. This plane we're on (these bodies). It's slowly running out of fuel. There is nowhere safe to land. The plane will eventually crash. How long will you hold to a doomed plane?

@phoenix666 Is that a yes? It's going to scare the shit out of the ego.

@phoenix666 Are you sure your really ready? If I push you. Will you push me?

@phoenix666 @Serotoninluv This is cool. we're all in this plane together now. What do you say to a tandem jump?

The ego thinks it's playing a game of hide and seek from the truth. And winning at it's game. But sooner or later, truth always uncovers your hiding place. I found you!

@phoenix666 Sweet! That's the right direction. See- all the answers are already there. Read books. Listen to masters. But it's all in you already. The masters are only trying to awaken what is already present in you.

You nailed it there. We want enlightenment but we avoid the accompanying growth pains at all costs. I been there and never realized what was so wrong about my practice the whole time.

@Serotoninluv Haha I guess the 4-aco gave you just the final push you needed to get you out the door and into freefall.

@phoenix666 Your right. It can take years, or even a lifetime to wear the ego down. That all depends on you. But if you want enlightenment bad enough. And have searched every corner of the mind in a futile attempt to find it there. The ego at some point will finally give in and surrender fully. In a way, when we start this journey, it is the doing of the ego making it happen. 'I'm on the road to becoming enlightened'. And in a sense you are. But it doesn't happen on your terms. No No No Not quite. This universe is much wiser than you and has already got you by the balls. You just don't know it yet. When you surrender you realize what is really happening here. And you see through the illusion of the ego and the spell it has placed over you. And it's true that you can't deny the ego. It's always going to be there. You learn to live with it. But you find that it's just something very insignificant happing in the grand scheme of things. It's just there doing it's little thing. In other words, it no longer defines what you are.

@Pure Imagination It's not luck. We where all much closer to enlightenment when we were very young. As we got older, most of us got farther away from the truth of what is. If you recede backwards through 'your' life it will become quite apparent that something special has been obscured by the egoic self identity that has evolved over time through experience. Go back in the direction you came. Dwell in the original 'I am' at the core of what is you. We all had it at one point. It is the gateway to transcendence. I hear so many people saying they are hoping for enlightenment to happen at some time in the future. I say no - Go back instead. Go back so far that you literally exit the door you came in through.

@egoless All meditation techniques are there for one purpose. To aid you in the surrender of the illusion of the individual self. To bring you into full realization of what you really are behind the mask of self that you have created out of nothing. To break the illusion that 'you' exist as a somebody. You could do that this moment if you choose to. What I'm saying is, don't be waiting for some magical thing to happen at some future time or at another place through any meditation technique. Only you can make it happen and it only ever happens in the moment of now. You will see that when it does happen. You will say 'I was looking all over for it and it was right in front of me the whole time'. It's all you! Nothing else can show you what you are. Only you can do that. Here is a good example. Take skydiving for instance. Meditation can be seen as the vehicle (airplane) that aids you to your objective. But it's you and you only that decides when it's time to jump. I'm saying this through direct experience of my own. I meditated for years waiting for the meditation to make something happen. And nothing did until one day I took a leap of faith on my own and Boom! there it was the whole time. I was riding the airplane for years but I wasn't jumping out into the all important free fall. I didn't realize I had to consciously jump on my own and take the leap of faith. Maybe I thought the airplane (meditation) was going to do the jumping for me? haha Wrong! *The effectiveness of any meditation is totally your responsibility.

@Danda Sure. Practice dropping the "I" from that sentence. Consciousness aware of consciousness. No ownership. A little off the subject but check out this video of Mooji. It's a good one. He points directly to enlightenment. "Are you in front of the lens of the absolute? Or are you behind the lens of the absolute?" -or both? That may help to answer your question.

@Danda The absolute allows the space in which infinite perspectives may arise. Infinite perspectives of even itself. Whether someone is fully awakened, slightly awakened, or nowhere near awakened "robot without consciousness" each needs to be seen (and respected) as separate aspects of the infiniteness of the absolute. Sooner or later all separate individual perspectives will come to full realization that the many is really the one. Even though for some that may not happen until their last breath. But that too would be just one of the infinite possibilities of perspectives to be experienced before the separate beingness folds back into the absolute. 'On the absolute beingness appears- and out of that comes illusion. And the illusion occupies the truth'. The truth is there are no perspectives. For there to be perspectives there would have to be two. So that's my perspective of infinite perspectives arising on the absolute. Cherish each for it's uniqueness and have compassion when the individual perspective suffers. It wants nothing more than to find it's way home.

Just found this and had to share.

@WaveInTheOcean If it's scientific evidence you require, your on the wrong forum.

You know what you are not. What you are you cannot know.

@ThirdEyeSees God is more here than you are. Mooji

On the absolute beingness appears. And out of that comes illusion. And the illusion occupies the truth. Nisargadatta

@xeeky4 What feels like it never ends- ego?

Constantly return to that point from where you seem to have come -and see if you have really come.