JuliusCaesar

This is of course a possibility. Though this from my perspective seems to likely be an overly anthropocentric view.

I feel like I'd have to write a ridiculously long statement to answer with any satisfactory detail. But to bottom line it, in my own experience from awakening, and also from experimenting with the energy rays(that of which yogis call chakras) I've found much of what Ra in the Ra material says to be true, and even once by accident starting telepathically communicating with Ra. So I'm working with the hypothesis that all or nearly all(minus transmission errors of course) of the Ra material is correct. And Ra's made it rather clear that Hitler's confusion was like the bane of his existence. "Ra: I am Ra. In speaking of the one you call Adolf we have some difficulty due to the intense amount of confusion present in this entity’s life patterns as well as the great confusion which greets any discussion of this entity. Here we see an example of one who, in attempting activation of the highest rays of energy while lacking the green-ray key, canceled itself out as far as polarization either towards positive or negative. This entity was basically negative. However, its confusion was such that the personality disintegrated, thus leaving the mind/body/spirit complex unharvestable and much in need of healing." Ra Material, 35.4

I'm not at present negatively oriented, but in the past I certainly was. Something I realized is that negatively polarized entities are likely to destroy themselves. You need only look at the fate of the Atlanteans to realize why I think this way. That's kind of an oversimplification, Hiter's main weakness was his confusion. But yes, Hitler had good intentions towards others and therefore wasn't really qualified to be negatively polarized in spite of how similar he appears to negative entities. Ha, I have the polarity of the One Infinite Creator(no polarity, or all polarities simultaneously, or I'm positive and negative, and also neither positive nor negative). If you must think of us in dualistic terms, then I'm technically positively polarized since I'm the source of everything as everything and nothing. I am both of those individuals. It's more like a paradox than a contradiction, as contradictions don't exist from a perspective of unity.

I've encountered what definitely seems to be a negatively oriented being from a higher density before, and like I said I myself am highly sympathetic to what Ra calls Orion philosophy. So yes, I certainly have knowledge about this. In general, yes, negatively oriented beings, of course, need the concept of separation so they can dominate others, how can you dominate others if you know they are but yourself? However, there is great power in unity, and negatively oriented beings therefore on rare occasions can become united with one another to pursue this end. Though this is obviously going to be very rare as it requires them to act in a way that's fundamentally contrary to their entire outlook and nature. Infinite seperation does amount to basically the same as unification from a certain perspective. And the only kind of love negatively oriented beings acknowledge as valid is the love they have for themself. The green energy kind of universal love and compassion is viewed as total anathema and utter foolishness. A weakness in positively oriented beings the negatively polarized love to use to their benefit. There are many statements there for me to unpack. In general, I'd say that it's mostly substantially correct though there are some things I would critique a little. So I'll say a few things that'll hopefully elucidate and clarify my position to you. Service to self entities have no regard for the free will of otherselves and will violate it whenever they think it possible to do so. However, they will also use the free volition of others to manipulate them also, that is whenever they find they cannot simply force themselves on the otherself. And of course, negatively oriented beings want to reach the Godhead because they or maybe I should say we since I'm identical to them in at least this regard, want to have the power of the Infinite Creator for themself. That last statement you made is rather accurate, but keep in mind that the power negatively oriented beings love so much also feels very good in action. Therefore in this way, the negative polarity actually takes pleasure in otherselves in a way the positive cannot. Also, positively oriented entities are inherently selfish to some extent because they can't survive without it. It's just that the negatively polarized entities are almost purely selfish, whereas the positively oriented beings are at least more than half selfless, and in some cases can even be totally selfless depending on their level of development.

@SOUL You seem to be somewhat highly similar to my own self now. In the past, however, I tried reaching other people but found that bringing them to the light is a mostly fruitless endeavor.

Indeed, nonetheless, there is value even in improper usage. @Razard86 The extreme time dilation he experienced should be evidence enough already. Not to mention the fact that he's far from being the only human to experience it.

Exactly, it's incredibly difficult to get people to think beyond the limits of what they know. The only problem with that is if you want them to do spiritual work, then they have to first realize at least that it's possible for there to be legitimacy to it. And they can only do that if they listen with the cadence that on some level they imagine they've experienced what we say we're experiencing. As otherwise, they don't really have any basis to consider it seriously and it all just sounds like nonsense hocus pocus baloney to them.

Things within a dream can take you outside of the dream. It can be literally anything, but some things are more effective than others. For instance, it's much easier to awaken as a human using 30mg of 5MEO DMT than it is with 30 oz of granite rock.

I know it's possible, I'm such an example. It can also be the greatest bridge to awakening as the self realizes it needs to lose itself in order to expand, which is necessary if you want to cease power in the supernatural domain. If you realized that these things are merely consciousness as all of reality is, then you'd realize the best possible way to advance in all of these verticals is some form of spirituality. Spirituality winds up being the most useful and practical thing in existence, in spite of how non-utilitarian it can appear at times. And something I just want to say is that service to self is the same thing as service to other-selves. Because the self is all that there is. So ultimately, we're all talking nonsense here, when speaking of these negative vs positive and good vs evil ideas. @Swarnim If you want to learn more about the negative polarity, you are the best source. Simply vibrate the Red, Orange, Yellow, and Indigo energy rays and you'll become negatively polarized yourself. But be forewarned, depending on how you do this, you can wind up causing some damage to your body as I have in the past. Because the blue energy ray becomes impotent, and its the blue energy ray that permits you to go without for example drinking water without harm. So something that happened to me is I became perpetually thirsty when I did this. Only when I went back into my throat where the blue energy ray is centered did the problem disappear. However, if you want to do service to self, you must never under any circumstances develop the green energy ray, as it's the source of love and compassion for others arising out of awareness of others as God. Which would very obviously be damaging to your polarity. Plus the blue energy ray is seen as the lesser of two evils, because it borders the indigo ray's awareness of self as God which is desirable to negative entities, and the green energy ray which tends to oppose the indigo.

I've had this feeling about the thread too. Lol of course not, they don't even understand that each individual human lives in a totally separate and therefore different reality from "everyone" else. Even in spite of how obvious it should be from their perspective. There may be some of that, but I mostly see at least on here, instances of people that report having done powerful psychedelics or some kind of occult practice or something, in either event, they have precedent from their own experience to reach consensus with Leo. And notice how oftentimes, the people that aren't doing entheogens but are just doing occult practices tend not to even totally agree with him on here. But just sort of remain open to possibilities. And there's also of course the intellectual masturbators who only have ordinary human experiences who come on here to try to debate us endlessly lol. Who also rely very heavily on their own experience, as they reject spiritual teachings on the basis that they never experienced the things that give substance to them, and as such fail to even comprehend them abstractly to any serious extent. So, all evidence seems to point to the fact that most humans are already actually less dogmatic and more reliant on their own experience than you'd think.

The fact that Pharmaceutical companies profit better from ineffective treatments than from highly effective ones certainly doesn't help. But there are many reasons why they're illegal. Probably the greatest reason is that Governments all across the globe are afraid they'll cease to exist if too many people are regularly tripping.

Addiction suppression is commonly an effect LSD has on people as I've noticed many chronic alcoholics have quit after doing heroic doses. As a side note, if you give a drunk some acid, they'll sober up very quickly due to LSD's neuroprotective properties undoing brain damage from the booze.

This is one of many reasons why using higher states of consciousness to affect ordinary reality is such a necessity. Not as tough and beautiful as you. Given what knowledge I have relevant to this subject currently, which of course is limited. The only reliable way I know definitely to do this, is also highly dangerous. Probably one of the most dangerous ways of doing spirituality, kind of like playing with nuclear weapons. I'll find a better way in the future.

This only holds true for ordinary human dreams, some dreams I've had, and others I've read reports of clearly violate this apparent rule. Unfortunately, however, within the limits of my knowledge at present, the easiest way to induce the kind of change I'm describing here is also potentially rather dangerous, and as such I'm reluctant to suggest it.

Even in spite of this, that video is still incredibly relevant, I'm not even certain what kind of changes Leo would make to it if he were to update it. He'd leave it mostly the same as it was I'd imagine.

It's good to see that you're at least open to the possibility that you've missed something and not simply here to espouse common views dogmatically in a place where common views are known to be flawed. In any event, there are many different angles from which I could address what you've said. If I were to speak only from direct experience with the intent to mention specifically what I feel is most relevant here. I'd mention that I've had precognitive dreams before, on two such occasions I foreknew the movements of cryptocurrency markets ahead of time. In the most recent one, I knew BTC would form a double top at around 64-66k USD as I saw exactly that in a dream weeks prior to it happening in the waking world. And I've also read accounts of things occurring in many other human entities, that are obviously under the same basket of phenomena. Like this one guy who was practicing lucid dreaming to have sex. He was in bed with a woman in a motel in his sleeping dream, and after they ceased engaging in coitus, he told her she wasn't real because he was dreaming. And she told him angrily "We'll see who's real" and burned him with a cigarette, when he woke up in the waking world the burn mark from the cigarette was still there. So certainly, the waking world is not the material reality our culture believes it to be, but it's rather just another dream, and as such it's possible for events to carry over from one into the other. Another angle I could take would be to use medical research to refute the erroneous belief that human consciousness arises from a physical brain. A British Neurologist named John Lorber studied humans with a condition called hydrocephalus where cerebrospinal fluid invades their cranium, destroying all or nearly all of their brain structures. In one decorated instance, Lorber while at Sheffield University in the UK, discovered a young university student with a larger than ordinary cranium who had almost no neurons in his head(which he didn't know prior to the catscan revealing this). And yet he was capable of the entire range of normal human cognition. And even graduated with an honors degree in mathematics. You see, the human brain acts like a filtering mechanism for consciousness in humans. And because of this, correlations arise between changes in neural activity and the individuals' personal state of consciousness. This is essentially why conventional neuroscience manages to make accurate predictions in spite of the fact that it's founded on a lie. Just to tie everything together coherently, the things you've proposed with respect to dreaming aren't particularly valid. Due to the fact that they're founded on the wrong assumptions about reality made by the materialist paradigm. However, bear in mind that it's common for humans to have difficulty in lucid dreaming as strange as that may seem. And as such the following analogy isn't 100% fair, since most humans even many who attempt to practice lucid dreaming won't experience the kind of phenomena I'm describing. Or at least, certainly not anything as radical or as obviously demonstrative of materialist wisdom faltering. Just as Aristotle was foolish to conclude that his suppositions were true simply because they seemed reasonable to him(like when he thought women had fewer teeth than men, even though he could have just checked his wife's mouth, or when he thought heavier objects fell faster than lighter ones, when obviously it took the scientific community about one and a half millennium later and a man called Galileo to correct that error, which is similarly ridiculous). So I also see the same kind of lack of grounding in experience in the things that you've said. Making the assertion that if you were to consider that you might be wrong about how dreams work/what reality is. You might just discover the same things about this subject I have. In much the same way that if Aristotle bothered to verify that his conclusions were experimentally valid, he would've discovered his blunders.

What if you turn yourself into those entities you perceived as other than you? True and within that framework, you could become for instance Barrack Obama and experience his life from his point of view. If we imagine they have their own perspective then they do, if we imagine they don't then they don't.

This is actually perhaps the greatest reason why most humans are capable of refusing to believe in this kind of phenomena being real. 434 made a rather high-quality video about exactly this subject I'll link here, though it isn't perfect, it's very good anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWmWRuRdcL0

Lol, you have the infantile "logic" of Aristotle.

@Questioner Assuming you're willing to think outside the box of your current views. You could derive great value from this video of Leo's, it's by far the best he's made relative to this subject, and it's very useful even relative to helping ordinary humans understand his perspective.

As a somewhat seasoned lucid dreamer, and someone who's studied lucid dreams in many human entities besides myself. The simple answer to your query is a definitive yes. With the caveat, however, that the laws present in a sleeping dream can be somewhat similar to the waking world, or dramatically different. When the conscious presence of the ego becomes strong in the sleeping dream state. Your sleeping dreams will often mirror your waking world experiences very intimately. And as such, the in-dream consequences of your actions will approximate their waking world counterparts to varying degrees of accuracy depending upon your lucidity, at high levels of lucidity, you get exactly the same experience you would in the waking world, or maybe something even more extreme. Though there are certain desirable, no highly desirable differences that are likely to arise. If for example, you engage in coitus in a sleeping dream as an adept lucid dreamer, you can have experiences that not only are indistinguishable from your waking world sexual activity, but even more intense as the dream can be more vivid to your senses, or in other words more real than your waking world experience. This also applies downwind to every aspect of your experience, so for instance, you can eat a candy bar where the last bite is as good as the first, or even better than the first. Both things which are ordinarily impossible in your waking world experience, in addition to your normal human sleeping dreams.

The logic behind this is basically why I've tended to avoid negatively oriented beings in the past. Even in spite of the fact that I know they can be tremendously useful to me. Yes, you're seeing some of the potential value in his perspective. It's like listening to Sheogorath in the Elder Scrolls, because his point of view is so unique he sometimes thinks along certain lines and reaches conclusions a more "sane" Oblivion Prince or Deity might never entertain.

You're making quite a few assumptions there, though I must admit seeing that made me think similar things also.

The point I was making, is that it's possible exactly such an individual might have insights others you consider to be better wouldn't. Because he's dramatically more selfish than they are, or at least so it would seem. And since there's the possibility of something novel in him, it's also possible that there's something of value there also. But you don't know if his perspective has any value to you unless you listen to him. Only if we want to. I understand, just as entering negative time-space is like the equivalent of walking on prison grounds to our higher selves. You don't want the teacher's negativity to impact you. And that's fine, but it doesn't undermine or even contradict anything I've said. Close, but no cigar.

Of course. Perhaps he isn't trustworthy, that in no way undermines any of the truthful things he's said. Thanks for that, this "Scholar" likes to compare apples to oranges it seems. Sure, but in either analogy, the underlying logic is the same so I don't really see any reason to prefer one over the other. The point I was making is that it's necessary to boil the ocean - listening to all sources as opposed to having preferences.