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8 hours ago, at_anchor said:@spiritual memes do you mean that's more computer science and electrical engineerimg than chemistry?
well both actually. there is some chemistry involved but its mostly electrical engineering and computer science.
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14 hours ago, Unlimited said:Because if there wasn't something real outside then there is nothing to perceive.
Ask him how he knows that.
Basically the way to debate people like this is to question their assumptions about reality. The fundamental mistake skeptics make is not turning their skepticism on their own assumptions. That being said it's unlikely you will change their minds. Minds are won over by emotions and gut feelings. Not with logical argument. Logical argument is just there to reinforce your worldview.
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I'm struggling with some really sneaky protector parts: The distractor, the procrastinator, the monkey mind and the tiredness part. These parts are uniquely difficult because they have so much power over me and also they prevent me from doing my IFS practice. They can distract me for hours both from IFS work and real life work that needs to be done. These have been around since my childhood and have had a huge effect on my life.
They are also working together synergistically. Any attempt to work with one of these parts results in the others doing their thing.
This is going to be really difficult
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14 hours ago, Emerald said:You can angle your nature to serve your survival no matter what it is.
But you find out your nature by exploring yourself and getting to know yourself better.
Try lots of things.
Find personally models to understand yourself (like Enneagram, MBTI, OCEAN)
Get clear on your values and what your preferences are.
Get to know yourself the same way you’d get to know anyone else.
Ok i see. One issue I have is that my values and preferences change vastly over time as does my personality. I used to be INTP and extremely scientific, atheistic and materialistic but all of that has changed. My nature seems to be heavily influenced by external things that happen to me. Is that still my nature?
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10 hours ago, at_anchor said:@Michael569But I also want to understand how do computers store real world fucking complex images and sounds, literally different voices get stored on a piece of metal and reproduced in some kind of a sound box or on a screen. How is that? I's preplexed. That is some kind of a chemistry. Electricity writing information in binary numbers and those binary numbers capture it all so well. I just don't get it. The workings of computers are to me almost as mysterious as bodies of living beings.
That's more computer science and electrical engineering than physics
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1 minute ago, Emerald said:Seek to become the best version of yourself through developing your natural aptitudes, cultivating virtues, and healing from trauma.
Basically, enable yourself to mature and individuate into your most exalted intonation.
Think about yourself as a sunflower seed at the outset. That means that you can never grow into a geranium or daffodil or daisy. You can only develop into a sunflower.
Then, you can either grow your sunflower into a puny little sunflower that never reaches its full potential. Or you can give yourself everything you need to grow into the most exalted version of a sunflower that you can be.
So, in relation to this analogy, the first element is self-acceptance and coming to know and celebrate your own nature as something unique from all other natures.
You must learn to appreciate your unique personality signature even as it diverges from the societally understood ideals of beauty and desirability.
This means the sunflower must never envy the rose. It must prefer being the sunflower and really lean into its own magic.
And from there, you work to develop that unique nature into its most exalted and realized version through whichever kind of self-alchemy works the best for your nature.
This requires the cultivation of various aptitudes and virtues that are specific to your nature. And it also requires an ever deepening relationship to yourself and your nature.
I see. How do you know what your nature is? And what do you do if your nature goes against your survival?
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9 hours ago, at_anchor said:I think I want to know more about the wet stuff than dry stuff.
Ultimately, I want to know biology. How are we made? What are the chemical elements that exist on our planet? How do they combine and how is the reaction happening to create something? How is this possible? How do we test and prove stuff about human health? Where did all this come from?
What are the most important chemical elements? How are more complex stuff like medicine and supplements made by using chemistry? What is the equipment necessary and procedure to test and make medicine? Are we safe or are we being poisoned by big pharma and processed food industry, etc.?
You would probably prefer chemistry then. Especially organic chemistry.
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8 hours ago, Emerald said:Men who are more holistically developed have much more attractive vibes.
How do you holistically develop yourself?
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Physics is way more important imo. But it depends on the field you want to go into.
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11 hours ago, Ulax said:@Leo Gura I think if you learnt IFS theory and had direct experience with it you would have a different perspective.
I agree. Leo has some exiled parts and is definitely shows.
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15 hours ago, Emerald said:It is quite frustrating because women don’t get listened to about what we find attractive about men when many of us are very well aware.
The notion is that we just say things that we like on paper but don’t actually respond to those qualities.
But this is a total mis-framing of the nature of female sexuality because women aren’t as attracted to parts and qualities as much as we are attracted to the man as a whole person… and as greater than the sum of his parts.
Usually when women are attracted to a part of a man, it’s because it is a part within the greater whole of his personality.
And because we resonate with the whole man, we like the part. Not the other way around.
And a man with the exact same qualities (or better) may not excite any interest at all in a given woman.
So, women are primarily attracted to wholes. And men (in contrast) are primarily being attracted to parts.
But men think women are attracted to parts like they are… and so they try to idealize themselves as a collection of positive parts that fit their assumptions about the ideal Masculine.
This projects the part-centric mechanics of male sexuality onto female sexuality.
And it creates this sense that women are just a pickier version of men, when the mechanics are totally different in reality.
But I don’t really see the caricature of Masculinity as demonic. It’s really clear it comes from vulnerable parts. And if I’m in a non-threatened state, I can have compassion.
But on the level of lived experience and practical concerns, I see it as irksome and unattractive at best, and politically and physically dangerous at worst. There’s a wide spectrum.
This is actually pretty mindblowing. My entire life was spent trying to improve my parts e.g. muscles, looks, body language. But most of the girls I knew were attracted to wholes. I've never met a girl who rejected someone because their arms were too small. And yet me and most guys I know care so much about muscles. I just assumed girls cared about that stuff because guys were like that.
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On 10/03/2023 at 2:12 PM, integral said:Financial success is step 1 to spiritual development.
lol It's the other way round.
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1 hour ago, StarStruck said:If the one is a good striker the fight is usually over in no time. Especially if the one is a good striker and the other one is not knowing what he is doing. Some dudes never fought and they actually think they can fight here in Europe.
True. Striking and grappling fundamentals are super important in street fights. But even if you are a good striker you still need takedown defence just in case.
Anyhow, I think this discussion has gotten off topic
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1 minute ago, StarStruck said:@spiritual memes I have never seen people grappling in public. It is usually brawls on their feet. Have you?
yeah I actually saw one a few weeks ago where they grabbed each other and it went to the ground. Apparently most street fights go to the ground.
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1 minute ago, StarStruck said:In a street fight grappling is useless. People can bite, go for the groin or your eyes.
But so can the grappler. All dirty tricks can be done more effectively by the grappler when they have the superior position. Grappling is absolutely not useless. If you ever get into a fight with a musclehead, he's gonna try to grab you and you'd better know how to grapple.
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11 hours ago, Emerald said:Many men think they have dating problems or women problems or Masculinity problems.
But they don’t have any of these problems. They have Shame problems that disguise themselves as problems with dating, women, and Masculinity.
And they try to throw pick up at it. Or they try to self-improve in other ways. They try to fit their image of the ideal man.
And it turns into a constant attempt to fix and become perfectly Masculine to absolve themselves of feelings of Shame.
Yeah that used to be me a few years ago. It absolutely sucked.
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11 hours ago, StarStruck said:Because in a fight they are useless
Maybe not in striking but in grappling they are definitely useful. I do bjj and the buff guys are much harder to grapple with even if they aren't that skilled. They just grab hold of you and its hard to escape. That being said, if they are unskilled, then their strength can be worked around with skill and agility.
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He's just a guy who thinks he knows everything because he's a scientist. A lot of scientists think that their understanding of science trumps everything else and they don't need to understand philosophy because science.
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Fear is love resisting itself
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I'm getting bursts of frustration. An important part of me desperately wants my life to change and to be honest I agree with it. I've been healing but my life has been stagnating for nearly a year now. A self help guru would be appalled at my life the past few months. If anything my life has gotten worse on a material and social level. Its hard to make progress when my foundations are constantly being ripped apart. I guess this is one of the downsides of IFS.
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I've done a lot of unburdening and I'm getting backlash from protector parts that are scared of so much internal change.
IFS recommends not working with exiles without permission from protectors but I guess I skipped that step... oh well
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The best natural alternative is opening your heart chakra
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From your very own teachings, and my own insights, love is the ultimate reality. Therefore there should not be a disconnect between the two. Any teaching of the ultimate reality must be loving and compassionate otherwise it isn't the ultimate truth. Because the ultimate truth is love.
If you aren't interested in compassion then you aren't really interested in the highest truth. Since compassion is applied love and love is the highest truth. These are your own words!
your lack of compassion is a serious and legitimate concern for many people, not because they aren't interested in higher truth, but because your lack of compassion is not aligned with the highest truth. And no amount of alien consciousness or god realization is going to change that.