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@OBEler They were magical truffles which are legal at amsterdam and that's the reason I went there. There is actually very good teaching that proved its importance in our dialogue. Don't judge book by a its cover. I am saying this from the stand point that my personality is couple pieces from many different perspectives so it's so broad that I can't possible introduce everything in couple lines of word or even in a long essay. Also let's assume that your logic about don't give advice if you aren't experienced is correct then why you talk to me feeling like you know without really knowing anything about me. All these things I am saying just to keep our conversation going so someone could learn something.

@OBEler Just you know your recognition is not on point, because I've actually tripped in amsterdam when I travelled there with my friend. Also I have had spiritual experiences outside of tripping which actually are so stable in my life that I could say that I've "realized" them. Also have I done something or not doesn't change the way my words could be taken and used. It can be that I've done lot of things and still have negative impact or vice versa. Also I truly believe it's possible to give advice about things without having experience of them. Second of all my personality is very broad and I change it how I feel like. That I am very spiritual doesn't mean I don't care about success or other way around. As I've said in this forum before people tend to think that some things exclude something else and I'd say that this ain't spiritual. Spirituality is about seeing as many things as possible and making the best possible option that there is. Spirituality could also be defined as studying structure and making good use of it. Hope that you see my point finally.

@UpperMaster First of all I have to tell that your way of writing and mindset is good, because you allow yourself to see new things instead of claiming others to be wrong. It's like I can give you practical advice that you need to eat in order to live and you could argue that death is imaginary and you live either way. So what I am trying to show is that the content alone doesn't make sense unless you understand the structure the content is operating within. Same content can mean different things according from the perspective you look at it.

@UpperMaster Problem with your logic is pretty common in this forum and in spiritual groups. You need to be very smart and conscious when listening advice, because there are always 2 levels to these things. Either you can think it spiritually or mundanely, but don't try to mix these 2 things because most likely you'll get lost in the knowledge. When we're talking about ultimate sandbox it just means that it's like a Grand Theft Auto V where you can basically do whatever you like under the restrictions. Restrictions are what makes the game and without those there couldn't be the game. -joNi-

@OBEler It feels that if you say anything which is even a little bit different than mainstream society, they want some proof from you that you're qualified to talk. That's ridiculous. Let's assume, If it would be the case that I wouldn't have any experiences of psychedeliscs, would what I said somehow automatically be wrong or would I lose some Leo-meo-god points and my value would be less in this forum. What I am trying to say is what you ask from me is meaningless in the context I was talking.

@m0hsen I have lot of spiritual experiences and I operate from the standpoint that there is no sense of self, control or world outside of what I perceive, but the thing is that having confidence, trust in the process and trust in "yourself" in mundane or spiritual are the same. It varies in intensity, but also the intensity varies inside the structure spiritual or mundane so it isn't valid excuse not to train yourself in any of those realms. Also you didn't do the damn push ups so stop being pussy and do them .

@m0hsen Yeah it is nice quote and the most radical thing is that my name is joni and I writed it. Everyone should aim for good self-expression enough to have impact in others so well that they change. You must be/feel powerful enough to move mountains if that is what's needed. What is missing from mainstream spirituality is its total wholiness. They talk to you lot about new experiences and realizations, but they don't teach you basic self-help and male energy to handle the unknown. Make yourself powerful and tell me in your next answer that you truly did 100 push ups.

@m0hsen Definition of insanity is trying to prove yourself that this what was fake is real and realizing that you can't because you're too conscious to trick yourself again. Instead you should try to prove what seems to be in the case correct, because with that you should have much greater chance of success. Rather than being mad at things which you lose in process you should be happy to give them to gain things which you actually want from life. That's why knowing your values is very important, because they're your map and without one you're lost. -joNi-

@PepperBlossoms The problem you're having is that you mix 2 different levels of knowlegde together thinking that they're equal. It doesn't matter a fuck if this is a dream, imaginary or anything from the perspective of living this particular life as beautifully as possible. That's what almost everyone on this forum gets wrong. Use spirituality to understand your experience and self-help to change the content within the dream and not the other way around. Lastly the most important thing is to focus to the core values so you know what is the thing which drives you and from that perspective you should operate yourself through life. -joNi-

@Raptorsin7 This is actually very ridiculous that in openminded forum such as this one people cannot even think of possibility that Andrew Tate could bring anything useful to the table. I fucking love big g and there isn't anything wrong claiming that. If you'd restrict yourself to work with people who are absolutely on the same resonanse level that you are you'd miss many opportunities. You don't need to share deepest values with your football coach or boss in the work. They have entirely nothing to do with the work itself. I'd call this forum paradigm locked at this point. -joNi-

Keep staring towards sandwitch contemplating if it'd taste nice in your mouth. -joNi-

Opening Every human being has 2 weapons that are used to reach values. They are swords that need to be sharpened and learned to use to actually be useful. Without them you can't go to war and even if you tried you'd just lose without standing a chance. It feels very weak if you don't have these swords mastered or even evolved and therefore your self-esteem will automatically be crap no matter what. What soldier does when he isn't fighting? He is working on himself to be at his peak when the next round comes up. That includes rest and training. Training in this scenario is mastering your 2 weapons. These weapons are conquering the world (male energy) and surrending to the greater (female energy). These energies feel extremely good and you cannot just grasp what level goodness I am even talking about. Without male energy nothing beautiful couldn't ever be built and without female energy nothing beautiful couldn't ever be appreciated. It would be total idiocy to try go without both or one of those, because it'd obviously wouldn't work in any reality whatsover. They're equally important, because satisfaction is product of those 2. Training season, my babe Training male energy is all about pushing you more and more every day. It's learning to see how powerful you truly are and that you are infinitely capable in whatever you do. The key concept here is attention to feeling like immortal beast while doing your tasks. This is the part where almost everyone fails. Doing things and not being lazy is only requirement in being able to spot the energy and itself is not enough for anything. It's not endless grinding to do, but you start appreciating the work afterwards. Training female enegy is surrending to the feelings completely. Don't fight back, because the best thing in the universe is to embody the feelings. It doesn't matter if you are going to feel sad, scared, weak, orgasmic, loved or anything else because the bad stuff goes away when you give enough attention to it and good stuff just goes to the next level. The key concept here is to approach everything with humility and knowledge that the feeling is always stronger than you, but you aren't against it, but on the same side instead. Songs that explain these energies well imo When you listen to these songs try to feel what I described before. You'll find it within you, trust me. Male energy Female energy With love -joNi- :´)

@Carl-Richard Tier 1 people don't understand that there is this structure of different values and therefore are sheeps. Individualist sheeps don't understand that having good connection with community is important and beaufitul and collectivist sheeps don't see that their helping is actually just helping themselves. Yellow is the first who understands that everything everyone does is for themselves and that it is all about the valeus and turquoise is just yellow who sees him/herself so strongly in others that when (s)he helps the energy is always within and cannot escape, because the story of other's life is also something you perceive and therefore affects you. -joNi-

@narkuser All that you need is masculine energy which is all about achieving and doing. Next time when you're doing almost anything try to do that with strong intention and you should feel that drive inside you. When you finally find that fire from inside you, just step on the gas and switch gears according to that. Don't do things in order to do things, but to direct your life to the direction you really want to go. You need be fighter and fight yourself to top of the world. Stop being pussy who is incapable to do anything. I am saying these things just to bring that fire alive, not to actually hate you. I am going to make guide post about this thing soon so follow not to miss it. -joNi-

@Vido To be honest it doesn't really matter what choice you're going to make, because at the end of the day you'll learn from the bad ones and benefit from the good ones so it's win-win. Again we face this same situation that if you'd just have more money there wouldn't even be such problems. That's what I was trying to explain in my last post and I'll make new one about this thing maybe soon. People need to understand that having speed in life which comes from male energy and freedom which comes from money allows you to grow faster and better in life and therefore those things shouldn't be suppressed especially when working towards spiritual goals. -joNi-

@Questioner You have wrong approach with your logic, sorry. When you dream a dream at night it doesn't matter if there are other dreams happening outside of that, because you'll not ever meet them anyways, because all there is in your universe are your perceptions. That means that you are alone with your experience and there aren't others. Either you have glimpse into that realization reading this or you keep arguing with lucid character ;D

@Leo Gura Correct, that is also the same thing why you can't define infinity, because the thing which you are trying to describe will include that definition so it's like trying to catch your own tail by speeding up, but the thing is, the tail does too. I think better question to start from is how does dream like reality feel like and/or how can I experience it by myself. To that question there are hell of more to play with instead of the question that was originally asked, because you'll fuck if you even concider trying to answer to that.

@Questioner This interaction wasn't still useless for you because it showed you that you shouldn't ask a question which you know the another one cannot answer. Another important lesson here is to realize that no one can ever prove anything to you, period. I cannot even prove you that inside banana there are atoms or not without you doing the work to look through the microscope. That's the problem with science, because they make picture in your mind that truth can be spoken and proved. As I said earlier the direct experience of realizing something is your only way to go.

@Questioner If you don't think that I am having experience then talking about this subject doesn't benefit you, because you know it already, but if you have even a little possibility that I do then you don't really understand this thing. Again I cannot claim why what I say is true or false, because it is you who must prove it to yourself one way or the another. I can help you proving it to yourself tho, by teaching spiritual practises and to this particular problem psychedelics are maybe the easiest and the fastest based on my own direct experience.

@Questioner The problem is that you think you're currently talking to someone having experience. The medicine which I prescribe is more spiritual work.

@Questioner It was never about is there someone having experience outside of me, but you.

@Questioner One guy used telescope and verified it ... No, but for real do the spiritual inquiry to find out the answer. It cannot be given, sorry bro. Your problem is that you try to understand experience by logic and not vice versa as it should be done. Only reason you ask evidence is that you don't want to believe to it and you know that I cannot give the evidence in form of words. This is the exact same situation than in school test; if you can't find an answer to the question go to the next one. Only reason why you are stuck in life is because you don't try different approach.

@Questioner Dream isn't just a label that you give to thing which isn't real compared to something else. It's label that is gived to experience that doesn't require outside world to exist. As long as you think that there is outside world, people having experience or hierarcy in experiences you don't understand the concept. Also it is about the feeling of being lucid which just must be experienced to in order to understand it. Trying some psychedelics can be useful to see what others are talking about and then you should aim for having similar experience sober.

@Preety_India You better to appreciate why your bully did what (s)he did or you'll just always have something in life which you don't understand and therefore hate. I was also bullied and I see completely why they did it, to raise their confidence and there isn't anything wrong in what they did, because they didn't know better. Optimal case scenario would be to have self-confidence enough so you don't need to do any harm to others to raise that, but that would be too much to expect from children that are just learning life. That's my take. -joNi-

@Questioner Lucid dream is a dream in which you realize that you're inside one. That means that you don't need to wake out of the dream to be awake. Also who told you that reality is based in sensory input? Also who told you that others are having any experience whatsover? What is even the difference between this dream which is happening right now to the one you see at "night"? -joNi-