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@amanen It's not exclusive, but refering the comment I was answering, "What could there be beyond realizing that you are infinity?", I think that type of mentality to be a problem. I mean if you want to always talk about the absolute and also in same way you're open to do so, but I think that also this perspective is something to be overcomed. It doesn't matter if microwave is deeper than cat, but there's still reasons to use microwave and study it if you want. Basically I am criticizing the one sided way to look things that we have on this forum. One quality of spirituality is its holisticality and locking yourself to only one way of looking at things doesn't feel like matching with that. I just see many people here answering the same way to all different questions to the point that it feels like a broken radio stuck in spiritual bla bla channel.

@amanen Of cource all finite things are contained in the infinite, but as I said in practical level having one realization to the nature of universe will not give you all that it offers and that's why I don't think it's good to endlessly seek for deeper and deeper realization, because there's just more things to do than that. I am neither denying the importance of spiritual insights, but always looking from spiritual perspective has its own limits which is its neverending bias of looking through spiritual lenses and not using anything else.

@John Paul Why would you want to measure fame in money in the first place? It all just depends on how you use the position you have.

@Moksha Exactly! We don't even know what happens couple back and forths in this dialogue even if we tried to guess our best. Don't let me hanging and come up with more content. I'm waiting you .

@amanen Yeah, but in practical level that just isn't true no matter how much you try to twist it logically. When you have experienced infinity you just haven't experienced hugging your best friend. Experiencing something requires not experiencing anything else. So in order of experiencing finite experience you can't be in infinite state. Also one point of mine was that no matter how deep realization you've had, there's still game to play and to discover. Spirituality is just one edge of the game and one perspective of it. That's the main trap people in spiritual community seem to miss. Did that make sense?

@Breakingthewall You can realize that your television can play any movie available. Is that enough for you or do you desire to see the movies?

@OBEler Ask lucid characters in your dream are you in lucid dream or not. Maybe they'll know.

@Moksha This is fun! I'd throw my own perspective here as well. If you try to control the thoughts then you can only think whatever you know. but when you take thoughts as a sign from higher consciousness you could receive something hidden to the bare eyes. The less control you have of life the more mysterious it is. The biggest problem is that people are bad at seeing teachings around them and they'll never learn and they'll stay in the labyrinth forever. Basically the point is not to crack the game, but to realize your life is an one and after that you can begin having fun. -joNi-

@Someone here Even happiness is not the point, keep searching until you understand it. I'll give you one pointer and nothing more. The way I formed this message is the answer and what is the most important thing in this life. By giving the answer, whatever it would be, it would be lost, forever. Be strong and have your curiosity with you. See you soon -joNi-

@Moksha Hmm, trusting to your thoughts is another very deep topic. Basically you really should trust your deep wisdom aka intuition more and at the other hand listening your mind judging every day doesn't do good to your picture of yourself neither. I'd say that you should contemplate the reason your thoughts are against your progress. Why are you so skeptical about your skills and strenghts? How do you feel when you have those thoughts and what are the first memories you have about having those emotions in the past? When you really do the work and solve uncured traumas your mind will be with you and your intuition will sharpen and a lot. Hope that what I said made sense to you, my hero!

@Moksha That's really important insight to the nature of making progress of any kind. Better meter to the progress than results are your skills to work. For example if you want to make real progress in gym then instead of staring your set weights and reps you should just focus to maximizing your training, sleeping, relaxation, eating, mental state and mood state. Usually the main problem people have with progress is that they are just too impatient with their life. Best cure to that is meditation and adopting the mindset of trusting the process and universe. The universe will show you what you want to see if you just let it guide you through it by its own beautiful way. With peace and love -joNi-

@Thought Art First of all thinking about political, sociological or ethical questions helps with your fluid intelligence and creativity and the level in those correlate very well to your own life aswell. You can't integrate things to your own personal life which you don't understand on the intellectual level and vice versa. Second point is that if your personal journey as a human being is at certain level you'll find it very hard to make progress on your own life so thinking about problems of others or problems of society gives some "puzzles" for you to the meantime. Third point is maybe just that I'm really waiting to see stage yellow thinkers in politics soon. -joNi-

@Thought Art The question basically was that do we have increasing trend in spiritual maturity among universtity or society overall and the answer is complicated. I'd say that we have more people interested in very high spiritual ideas thanks to internet and movement to more greenish society, but overall due to increased tehc-development we go more into unconsciousness. I think it's fascinating to contemplate the development of "society's ego" and think the possibilities to boost it even more.

@vishnusavestheday Would you like to elaborate more on the sense of time management "issue"? Other than that I really resonate with that you shouldn't try to achieve any state, information or realization, because pushing it to happen has counter-intuitive result.

@Breakingthewall Imagine calling someone scammer in spirituality ?

@vishnusavestheday It really doesn't even matter if it works on some other level than in your mind, because at the end of the day you'll feel connected to people who you have dialogues with in your head. Also you'll subconsciously make better sense of how the another person thinks. It can still be all imagination if you just project whatever you want them to answer to you and then it kinda loses its power. Also having dialogues in your head with someone could boost your confidence to talk with them irl so that's another advantage in it. Anyways, the most important thing when thinking about mystical stuff is that if it feels like working then it kinda works. -joNi-

@Rishabh R Contemplate your values and live up to them the best you can. That's just one way to express the idea and you have to feel if that resonates with you. Basically radical self-honesty is key here.

@no_name I'd say that if you look to find guiding from life, then that's what you find. Everything is guiding you to different directions so it's up to you to decide where you want to go and what force to listen. That's what I'd call true manifestation.

@Artsu First of all I really connect with your emotions that people rarely believe or understand us. That's rough sometimes and I am with you on that <3. I see how you wanted to talk about mystical experience series or phase and people started to talk about that what if you are trying to trick yourself out of mental illness. I am also the type of person who believes in radical honesty and I know that sometimes it's hard to go against your values, but here is maybe perspective that might help you to see bigger picture of whole situation. You value truth almost as the highest value or maybe even the highest. Which of the following scenarios sound wiser and more truthful to you? 1. Talking to people about things they can't comprehend and suffering the consequences and sabotaging your spiritual and personal path by being locked in the place which does not support your growth. 2. Understanding the social dynamics and the limits of people you're talking and actually integrating and behaving accordingly to what you think will lead you to the best life possible. I understand that one of your goals in life is to change the system for the better and I share that game with you. We still have to understand that sometimes the best way to make the game better is by first playing by the rules of the game to the point we are so powerful we can step outside of the eye of the game. We can't expect to change the system when we are inside it; the only way to develop the game is by going to the developer state. Going more in to the game aka being locked in psych ward, we give our power and authority away to change anything. With love -joNi- <3

@Carl-Richard @KH2 What's the difference?

@KH2 What is psychosis?

@Jannes Just keep doing whatever seems to be the most logical thing to do at the moment. Understand that you can only do your best with the information you have right now. So if you feel like being on microdose everyday then just go for it, my hero! Just remember to contemplate the deep things you might be trying to run away by being on microdose. Maybe there's something worth of contemplating or not. Take my message just as an universe trying to make you pause for a second and contemplate your situation by yourself. I possibly just can't and I don't want to live your life for you because that's the highest blessing universe gave to you, to think and make your own unique decisions. With love -joNi- <3

@meta_male Being "happy" always is kind of super power, but then there's still that side that you shouldn't stop living your life or pursuing higher states of consciousness, because those experiences will just be in next level intensity thanks to your overall "happiness" state. Someone could argue that you don't need to do anything if you are always content, but the thing is that even to this incredible emotional emotion "happiness" you can get so used that you want to do something else. The difference after this transformation is that you don't do things out of a need, but more like from appreciation and love towards whatever you have in your life.

@meta_male That's very advanced insight! You're correct, because even if you're seeking for happiness which many people see as a state of excitement, you say that "I can be peaceful when ______" . Of cource happiness and excitement are different things, but that's just how low conscious people perceive it. I've tried to explain how happiness feels like to many people, but barely people get what I say. Happiness doesn't feel like anything. It doesn't feel good, bad, joyful, quiet, peaceful, empty etc. It's the "background" which covers all other states of emotions. You could call it an emotionless emotion. It's a complete transcendence of your mind. The seeking ends, not because you found what you were seeking for, not because you realized you had always what you wanted, but that you found that there was nothing to seek for. -joNi-

@Magnanimous If tracking your meditation is option for you then I'd do it, because when you're later on the journey it could be fun to watch back at which point you had which awakening and so on. And also I'll save you from lots of years worth understanding and I'll tell you to start daily meditation like 1 hour a day or even more. That's the spiritual practice you'd want to have with you. All spiritual searching and watching videos should be secondary and should just support your personal journey and not the other way around. If you want some extra boost to your journey just PM me and we could plan a voice conversation so I could guide you towards your unique journey. This is going to be extremely beautiful ride for you. Just remember to fasten your seat belt and you're ready to go. With love -joNi-