WelcometoReality

@Delmo This video explains it

@blazed They are at stage turquoise but they haven't fully embodied the enlightenment. Some might be stuck in the absolute perspective, that nothing needs to be changed, everything is perfect just as it is. Others might be holding on to the realization (the blissful experiences). There can be many reasons really.

@Jack River Very nice!

Sound to me like an awakening of the heart. Makes life feel dreamlike. Is there a feeling of one? Like the observer and observed has merged together?

@Pamela Zamora Senses are feeling, seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting. That is all input there is. Thought creates stories around these inputs and creates a sense of self (identification) to some of these sense inputs.

@Victor Mgazi What, would you say, is ego? Does thought "trigger" feelings in the body and vice versa? How about the other sensations, can they trigger thoughts and feelings?

@A Seeker was there any fear arising?

If it's your body then the body can't be you can it? That is what you are saying right? That the body IS you? Then why are you calling it your body? That means that there is something or soneone that the body belongs to. So what is that something/someone?

@Butters If you are in to spirituality for finding truth I see no reason to waste your time on these things. Use it for spitual practices instead.

@Gligorije I think, therefore I am. Descartes premis is that there is a thinker, but the thinker is either part of the thought or another thought taking ownership of the first thought. Non duality says that there is no thinker, no subject which has ownership of the thought. So no they don't go well together.

Yes I know what you mean. There is that here but there is still some reactivity left. From the "knot" in the gut that says "NO" to certain experiences. If I'm making sense?

You express it well. Bravo. Because there is no separation between awareness and the thought yes. I can see that what I expressed wasn't pointing exactly to truth. Thank you.

A thought arises and passes. Is that what you mean by a stream? Then yes the stream is an actuality (I would use occurrence).

So what happens now? That question, where does it come from? What wants to know what happens?

Stream is a concept, a thought Thought is never aware. What is aware of thought?

@Victor Mgazi Im not searching for anything. Just here to help. Don't believe it's finished.

@Victor Mgazi mm yes I know what you mean. The question was not as much for you to answer me but more a question to ask and answer for yourself. Is this true?

@Victor Mgazi what sees the thought?

@Ingit Let the meditative state carry through to your ordinary life and if the negative thoughts take over do something meditative again. If you can't, just accept that they are the no need to struggle with your thoughts.

Maybe you will maybe you won't. It's not inevitable just uncertain. No need to worry of this in advance.

Is there a stream of thought or is that also a thought? All attempts to define truth is not truth itself. Yes. I don't follow.Can thought be aware? Yes truth is quite difficult to explain isn't it?

@Victor Mgazi Now nothing. Any movement to a future event or questions coming up is a movement coming from the mind Read this thread. https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/2328-mind-attacks-after-initial-seeing/#comment-22552

@Faceless That sounds complicated. From which of the five senses and thought does this come from?

There is no recognition that these questions come from any other until mind comes in. The words appear on the screen here and now. That is it really.

I wouldn't say realization and identification with the mind is the same thing but after the realization mind did try to grasp and reject the realization. For me it was quite active but gradually has become more and more silent.