Christoph Werner

There are many people on this forum claiming "they are god" or "I became conscious of the truth" or "through direct experience I know"... Isn't this ego? Why the need to claim awakening? Why claim you're god when you cannot even stop talking to yourself and just be quietly your Self? Maybe this is a way of the ego of postponing it's transcendance, because now it fooled you into believing you are awake? There are few things on this forum I don't understand, also why if someone who is god conscious would spend so much time on this forum doing a lot of nonsense debating with others. Don't you have better things to do? I have few awakenings in my memory also, they are some of my most important, beautiful and life transforming experiences Some time back I made a topic "5Meo Dmt and I don't know". Since then I had 2 breakthrough trips with 5MEO DMT and needless to say it's very powerful, I absolutely love it and I will continue working with it. It made all my practises more powerful. However it didn't help me with the constant talking to myself that I'm doing every day and intuitevly I don't think it will help me with that much in the future. Can anyone give me some advice how I can stop talking to myself? Is there actually someone on this forum who can just sit for an hour without talking to yourself? I can slow down the thoughts and become very blissfull. Silent nirvana mind I have only experienced once for like 30 minutes where I felt so complete that I didn't feel like thinking. That was after a meditation while I was on lsd combined with mdma. Maybe I shouldn't strive for a non-talking to itself mind? Right now my approach is just enjoying life, doing my practises, devoting myself as a meditation teacher and to my projects, travelling. When I am in devotion my mind is the more peaceful and silent but still not at all what I have experienced is possible. I appreciate any advice and answers to my questions Thank you❤️?

Isn't it an assumption that we're experiencing life through "the lense of a human being"? Just because you feel and see a body doesn't necesarrily mean you see life through the lense of a human being, right? There are many Yogis who claim they can be without thoughts. Sadhguru says sometimes he is not thinking a single thought for few days in a row. And even I experienced it before. I'm aware I am not the thought, especially sitting in Meditation and it does not happen often anymore that I get identiefied with thoughts that lead to suffering. Yet, If i were to analyze, at least over 60-80% percent of my thoughts are nonsensical self talk. They are simply unnecessary. Maybe the mind is more than a "thought generating machine" and we just haven't figured out to use it at its highest potential?

@Dorje Chang Shakti Chalana Kriya in my experience is 3-5 times more powerful than shambavi. I have not done any other Kriyas then the ones from Sadhguru, so I can't compare. All I know is everyone I spoke to who practises Shakti Chalana are amazed at the power of it. So I'd say yes, worth a trip. Moreover you can experience living in a high conscious community and check out their amzing temples. Dhyanalinga is quite an amazing tool.

@Javfly33 @Javfly33 Short answer yes, but not as intense mostly. For me in the evening/ night time it is very easy. Through holding conversations with people or intensly listening to them, dancing, sex, looking someone in the eyes. Definetly tho my meditation creates much more psychedelic like bliss states. I don't view my practise as something I do to reach enlightenment or chase anything. For me it just makes my life flow more and I feel much more I'm in control of my energies. One goal I have is to live more with a quiet mind. Karma yoga is helping me do that. But it seems there is much more to learn and transcend. I'm always talking to myself in my mind, sometimes less, sometimes more. I really want to find a way to be quiet. If someone can give me tips on that I would appreciate.

Yogic practises can help you to gain mastery over your body. I never understand the argument, just do psychedelics, they are more powerful. Why not do both? What better things you are doing when you're not on psychedelics? Everyone has time for these practises and they are very helpful in rasising your baseline level of consciousness and you can definetly have awakenings with these practises. I do a combination of hatha yoga, pranayama kriyas, meditatation, psychedelics and self inquiry. I had awakenings in all of them. The psychedelic awakenings are the highest experiences and they make all the other practises much more powerful. However the awakening from the Kriyas are much more valueable, as I learned from them to go into bliss states whenever I want within 10-20 minutes doing meditation, as I Iearned from them how to hold the body, how to breath. So stick with whatever practise you enjoy doing and that work for you. For me the more powerful one is Shakti Chalana Kriya learned from Sadhgurus Shoonya Intesive course. But there are probably many good ones out there.

Well if they want to do it and everyone is onboard and proper safety measures are taken, I guess it could be worth a try. Otherwise I wouldn't recommend taking mdma, it's quite toxic. Besides if you heal all your trauma and all behavioural patterns that are a result of your trauma. And if you are truly grateful for your family being able to spend time with them and just loving them then you can have a big effect on them.

I've been there 5 months. For me it was a life changing experience. The practises they teach are super powerful and the space also. Just don't engage in the group think but be open to what they teach and try it fully. Their programmes are incredible also. Bhava Spandana is a 4 day kundalini yoga retreat that is amazing. Shoonya is an advanced 4 Meditation retreat where you'll learn a powerful pranayama practise ( this practise enabled an awakening into infinite love for me, through this I can now produce the chemistry of love at will within 10-20 minutes, changed my whole life ) also their hatha yoga is very pure and effective. They offer three different types Angamardana (more fitness type) Surya Kriya and Yogasanas. Also their temples are amazing Dhyanalinga and Devi temple. They say the Dhyanalinga is the highest energetic form possible in physical form. All I know is when I sat there for meditation it felt like an energy form doing operations on my body. Ofcourse there is a lot of group think going on there, but it's defintely a high conscious community that lifts you up. If you're looking for developing discipline, learn pure spiritual practises and you are open for new experiences then I think it's perfect for you. It's also amzing to see so many people living in harmony together, we'll definetly need more of that in the future. If you have questions let me know. I can also give you some tips on how to approach your stay there to get the most value if you want.

I give a meditation Workshop every week. What I've learned is, that your vibrational frequency is the most important. You are providing the atmosphere that everyone connects to. So every single emotion and thought you have is important. So prepare well for any theory you want to discuss, don't be nervous, establish a solid connection with source and be very mindful of your frequency throughout the whole day but especially for the session. I like to start my Workshop with shaking of the body to music. People are so stuck in their psychological reality that their consciousness is quite disconnected from the body, so that's a nice beginning. I would first do practise and then the dharma talk and then again practise. As people will listen much more when they are open from the practise. I also recommend doing guided meditation at the end. It's very beautiful way of guiding yourself and others to source consciousness and channeling that power to the room and everyone in it. Feel everyones energy and build a database of things to say in your mind, so then in the moment based on how you feel the peoples energy you know the right things to say to bring them closer to love, peace and power. Make the Workshops about love. No one cares about buddhism or any technique. Everyone is just looking for love even if they don't know that. So address that and don't beat around the bush. Meditation is shifting from pursuing love to realizing you are love.

Agreed. But it's always possible not just when you trip. Telepathy is a very broad and nuanced topic. There are many levels to it. Everyone is using telepathy even if they don't know. For example: People like getting love based attention that is free from agenda. So unconsciously people will tap into to the collective consciousness and know when their friends are in a needy state or in a giving, loving happy state and like this they know which friends to call or which friends to make plans with. I'm sure most of you have experienced this that if you feel very in bliss all of a sudden a bunch of people text you and when you are depressed people don't text you for days. In my experience you can establish telepathic connections when you make heart based connections with other people. Like this you will always know how they're feeling and you can also get input to what is going on in their lifes at any given moment. I wouldnt waste my time with that tho. Also you can do transmission of consciousness and raise their vibration if you want no matter how far you are apart from them. Again wouldnt recommend doing that too much as it is a bit pointless. People are where they are and need to experience what they experience. You can also establish a connection with your future self. Or with anyone you want basically. There you have to be very purified because when you still operate a lot from the ego it can always distort the information. You can also make a connection to Leo which is quite beautiful and funny also. He still experiences guilt jiji. Also with telepathy no one can lie to you regarding matters of the heart. Complete strangers can talk to you and you just know they're lying. Also your worldview is not anymore created by rationality anymore as it is for a lot of the people here on the forum. Things others read hundreds of books for to then allow their brain to try it because rationally their map of reality allows it with telepathy you just know these things. Telepathy comes with knowing through being.

@michaelcycle00 Don't know which psych. How about the love of god? It's for free and it lasts a bit longer than 6 hours. It's kind of forever

When you awaken there is no anxiety. Caring about what others think of you is a result of thinking you need to be a certain way to get their approval. When you are awake you have your own approval and love. You are on a platform noone can shake. This manifests chemically in your body and also in your energy field. Then you don't waste a single thought on what someone thinks of you.

Name: Christoph Werner Age: 24 Gender: Male Location: Estepona, Spain Occupation: Vegetable Gardener, Meditation Teacher Marital Status: Girlfriend Kids: No Hobbies: acrobatic yoga, hatha yoga, exploration of spirituality, volleyball, meditation, psychedelics, traveling, community I got into personal development in 2018. After school I travelled for one year and I knew I want something more in my life then the examples that I've seen in my surroundings growing up. My dad programmed me from early childhood with "always think for yourself", "Be passionate for what you do"and "sustainability is important". 2018 I did some lsd with a friend and that changed everything, the day after, having many questions, I found Alan Watts, Terence McKenna, and Leo Gura. I was the most happy that day I found Leo's channel watching his video "What is God? Leo becomes absolute infinity" and looking at his channel I instantly knew I discovered a gold mine :). Personal challenges I've overcome: Healing childhood trauma from my mother who loved and hated me, which confused me a lot Forgiving my mother and developed a loving relationship with her Overcoming Cannabis Addiction Some achievements: telepathy, ability to go change the chemistry of my body into love at will, communication channel with a spirit guide that always puts me into the right places and connects me with the right people for my evolution, becoming attractive for women, transformed all my relationships into loving relationships, self discipline in food, and spiritual practise What I'm working on now: Fully merging with The Self, Transmitting and teaching other people how to connect to source consciousness, Educating myself about agriculture and building Community, Preparing people for the coming collapse

@Leo Gura My advice for you Leo is not just teach concepts but actually start radiating god consciousness. Make your body a temple of god. Then you won't have to do all the ego editing That would truly be the next level of actualized.org. And it would be the end of your health problems also.

@r0ckyreed I respect your mindset. However there is also the possibility of letting go of the self that needs to be loved ("always love yourself") and discover the Self that is love. And if you merge with the Self you probably will choose to always grow and improve your vehicle, in fact have goals that you can never reach. At the same time there will be zero need for any dissatisfaction with anything.

@r0ckyreed To me it sounds like you are justifying your suffering here through building an identity of someone who will suffer to reach his full potential, who is above mediocrity. Do you feel guilty when you're not suffering to work on your goals? The story that you need to do something or achieve something or be a certain way in order to feel satisfied is an illusion. It's a story of the egomind. Like this the ego can delay satisfaction, always change the narrative of what needs to be done to feel satisfaction. And it is a black hole, because you can never satisfy the fantasies of the ego mind. Also this then manifests in your body. If you buy into this story a sensation of lack and incompletness will manifest in your body. Probably something like a hole in your stomach. Now there is also the possibility to let go of stories of lack and needing to be a certain way to feel satisfaction. If you truly let go of these beliefs you will find true satisfaction from seeing that you are already complete. And then if you choose to you can strive to improve yourself. But it will come through a motivation of love for something. I'm conpletely happy where I am, yet I'm striving to be better in Order to share this happyness with as many people as I can.

True satisfaction only comes through being The Self. Then if you choose to, you can grow yourself to be more capable of whatever you want. Your insight sounds like a very twisted way of motivating yourself to me. Why not grow out of love for something and at the same time always be satisfied?

Trans women are trans women! Most men are looking for a women that was born with a female body and has female reproductive organs and identifies as a woman. They are simply not attracted to trans women for survival of our species reasons. To them a trans women is not a women even if she identifies as one.

I just listened to the podcast also. To me it seems like he's on the right track. He was talking about a theory of everything is impossible, consciousness as being fundamental, and other things you ( Leo ) are talking about. He also talked about practising meditation 3 hours a day since 20 years and studying spiritual traditiones, getting glimpses of no thought and a deep sense of love. @Leo Gura I think he would be very open to your ideas and worldview if you would ever talk to him.

What has been most effective for me is a combination of Pranayama, Kriya Yoga, Meditation focused on the prana body, intermittend fasting, not eating meat and very important of course psychedelics.

For me I see a lot of numbers when my actions and ideas and thinking are in alignement with a higher intelligence.

There are many reasons for this. Spriritually bankrupt society; Really bad food; Shitty values; Awful education system; It's good for business to have a mentally ill society; ... The core problem is just lack of Love and Truth

If destroying the US is a huge accomplishment, then yes Biden is doing an amazing job. It's incredibly entertaining to see the downfall of the USA. You guys have a President with dementia LMAO.

It is an incredible practise. The only thing you need to do is do it

If you care about where humanity is heading, do what you can and disidentify yourself from the need of humanity having a good future. Your action is very limited, so don't use something outside of your control to justify pessimism.

I'm not big on taking pictures, bit here's one my dad took yesterday that I really like.