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  1. Posted

    5 minutes ago, somegirl said:

    It's more about human nature and things that are out of our control, such as who we get attracted to. 

    Plenty of guys hitting all your attraction triggers that would be into you. You are just making excuses for continuing to date people u shouldnt.

    So you re telling me there are no funny, confident, cute, smart guys out there that are into you that do call you back? Not 1?

  2. Posted · Edited by Karmadhi

    So i watched Leo's videon on how to love which he posted 8 days ago. First of all i would like to say it is an amaizing video and i really enjoyed it and gained wisdom from it. However, i feel like a lot of the things on that video work great for keeping relationships together (platonic, romantic and family), but when it comes to getting girls to be attracted to you and want to be with you it does not seem to work well.

    I have noticed that girls, especially young ones 18-25, tend to be into guys that are quite toxic. How do i define toxic? Well, giving mixed signals, low empathy, very selfish, bit controlling (depends), bit narcissistic and drama creator. So the opposite of healthy and steady and stable.

    My question is, how can i become more loving and selfless and empathetic like Leo says when girls are attracted to the exact opposite of it. It seems like i have to be toxic and unpredictable and ghost girls and do all this BS in order to get them hooked into me.  And guys i have seen so many examples of this in my life with people i know that i am convinced beyond a doubt that this is what works with young girls. Do not even bother explaining to me that young girls do not respond well to this toxic crap. I just need to know how can i be attractive to girls while being stable, healthy, actualized, caring, honest, humble and non-drama person.

    Honestly i feel like sometimes i should just start playing games and become a toxic fuck and do what some of my guy friends do if i want a girl to be attracted to me. It is very tempting but i do not want to go through that route, i feel like it would corrupt me and would be hard to go back. SO

    So please, some advice would be really appreciated.

  4. Posted · Edited by Karmadhi

    4 hours ago, something_else said:

    've never left my house just to daygame. I think that's when it becomes creepy and needy. If you wanna build a life that a girl wants to be a part of, it's better to be a dude who knows how to party and have a good time than a dude who leaves his house at 11am on a Saturday to go looking for sex on the street

    Again, I'm not saying it can't work. I know it can work. But it feels like it has a lot less integrity, and requires a lot more 'not giving a fuck.'

    That will depend on what is more natural for you.

    For some people going on a saturday walk might be more "natural" and during that walk they can do a daygame session. They are technically living their life naturally and stumble on a bunch of girls.

    For another person it can be a night out with friends for fun and they stumble on a bunch of girls.

    You can make the arguments that going on a club just to pick up girls is also "needy". Keep in mind a lot of people, including me and Leo do not really enjoy clubs per say. If i go in a club just for fun it will not be more than once every 2-3 months. Any extra time i go it will be for pickup alone. I dont enjoy clubs as a place for socializing. 

    I basically have to go out of my way to go to a club is what i am trying to say. For some people clubbing is part of their social life and they would go there often even if they had no intention of pickup. For them great. I am not like that though.

    If you are then great for you.

    I do agree that going out on a club or busy street/mall JUST for pickup is quite needy but this is how you get good. It sucks. Which is why a lot of guys complain about girls having it easy. They dont have to do shit.

  5. Posted · Edited by Karmadhi

    On 5/23/2022 at 11:51 PM, something_else said:

    I’m not saying no one should do daygame, it can work for some guys under some circumstances, clearly it does for you

    I’m simply saying that it tends to be interpreted as very needy and creepy by wider society and with good reason

    90%+ of the dudes who end up doing hardcore daygame just annoy or creep out a lot of girls

    The fact that daygame is only viable when you get to a city with a population of 1 or 2mil or more is an indicator of the issue, it requires an absurd amount of anonymity to avoid getting into serious trouble or building up a bad reputation

    There are already dudes in the 1mil pop city near me that have a poor reputation, or have gotten in legal trouble for doing hardcore daygame. Several news articles on them

    Meanwhile I can do nightgame in my 100k town and have no issues at all. If I started doing hardcore daygame here I’d be in a news article (or all over social media) by the end of the week, even if I was good at it

    To me there’s no reason to hardcore daygame when nightgame A) Is actually fun B) Is far less risky C) Has more girls concentrated in a small area D) Has way more receptive girls

    Basically the only disadvantage is cost and sleep pattern but these are not huge factors if you’re careful

    You seem to project a lot regarding daygame. Daygame and nightgame both work and are legit depending on your personality and style.

    Since you are talking about creepyness, yes it is true that it is easier to creep girls during daygame but does not mean you cannot talk to them. What matters is where YOU FEEL more comfortable. Personally i am 10x more likely to creep out a girl during nightgame than daygame simply because nightgame environements make me so uncomfortable that i will become creepy. No matter how much i expose myself to them, i always feel like i am a shadow socially of what i can be in other settings. So in MY case, daygame is a better option.

    For you might be different, everyone is different. But saying this is creepy and this is not is a very simplyfied view on it.

    Plenty of guys kill it with daygame,  i know some of them. Just like i know others that kill it with nightgame. What is the trend i have noticed? Everyone games in the environement they feel most natural and comfortable at.

    AG Hayden and  Natural lifestyles are great daygame channels, John Anthony lifestyle and RSD are great nightgame channels. I do not see any of them being creepy .

  6. Posted

    26 minutes ago, somegirl said:

    Ohh so what... 

    I was rejected as well, big deal. Of course it hurts but come on, let's not lose hope immediately. ? 

    One does not lose hope in the face of couple of failures.

    The fundamental difference between rejection for guys and girls is the fact that guys go through a lot more of it due to the fact that they are usually pursuers.

    Also i have noticed girls usually get rejected from the top guys while guys get rejected by ALL girls.

    The average girl has 10x more power in the dating market than the average guy, if a guy is not a top guy he is kinda fucked and begging for scraps.

  7. Posted · Edited by Karmadhi

    19 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    Because women are judged so much more harshly on their appearance than men. A significant chunk of a woman's survival hinges on her appearance. And women struggle with fat more than men.

     

    19 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    1) Do you really think it's good that many young girls and women have crippling self-esteem problems because they cannot live up to the beauty standards found in magazines?

    These days men have become equally or close to as insecure as women about their physical appearance. The whole incel and even MGTOW movement is pure proof of that. Just google "how much do looks matter" and you will see 90% of the stuff that comes up is about guys.

    We live today in the Tinder/instagram/online era where dating happens more and more online hence the increase of importance of physical attractivness of guys. 

    And it will get more and more important as people use online shit more and more regarding dating and even judging their value (instagram for eg).

    Also does not help when women talk about looks in guys 24/7 (especially young ones), regarding what they care about. Even if it is not true hearing it every day 24/7 takes a toll on your self-esteem.

     

  8. Posted

    2 hours ago, Federico del pueblo said:

    Why do you not go to bars instead of clubs?

    Because people there are in groups and it is super weird and not socially acceptable to just join in. It annoys people, especially if there are girls and guys there. Imagine you go out with your cirlce of friends to have  a good time and some random guy wants to join you. If there are 2 girls for example it can work great if you are with another guy but that requires you to have a wing. You cannot rely on having a wing 2 times every week. 

    2 hours ago, Federico del pueblo said:

    In night game you must engage the entire group and spend considerable time with all of them, and if you're good and the friends like you, then maybe isolation is possible

    In clubs you can do this, in bars not. At least where i live these are the social conventions.

    2 hours ago, Federico del pueblo said:

    In daygame you have to deal with the awkwardness of approaching in more silent environments where other people might overhear you talking to her.

    I do not mind silent environement, i just mind the horrible stigma it has. It makes me feel like i am being weird, desperate etc. It goes against my identity as a "normal" guy according to society standards.

    2 hours ago, Federico del pueblo said:

    You can only gradually desensitize yourself to the awkwardness, by doing social challenges, structured in a progressive way, so each challenge is a bit uncomfortable, but doable.

    I have definetly have done that by going to social events by myself and forcing myself to talk to people. I love meeting people through social events, it is by far the best way to meet people imo because everyone there is super friendly, it is a chill enviroenemtn and not weird. However, there are not enough of them unfortunately.

    2 hours ago, Federico del pueblo said:

    Also forget about the "I'm a natural introvert" thing. Everybody who wants to start with game thinks that. It's just another limiting belief EVEN if true. Your brain is plastic. You can change. If you do the right things you could become someone who regularly speaks in front of a several thousands people audience, as the natural introvert.

    I agree with that totally, i have personally made massive imporvements in socializing.

  9. Posted

    20 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    Now you're just making excuses. It's creepy because you think it's creepy and because you probably are creepy.

    Every girl is approachable. I have gotten dates and lays from girls on headphones and even in the middle of phone calls. First time I ever got laid was from stopping a girl walking in the mall talking to her mom on the phone. She was 25, fyi. I once approached a girl at the gym who was running on a treadmill with headphones on. It resulted in a date.

    Street approaching is no harder than any other kind. It's a very common approach style in cities like NY, London, and Vegas. I got wings who pull girls walking outside on the Vegas Strip on a weekly basis. Like 60 min pulls from street to sex.

    Stop making excuses and train yourself to approach.

    Personally i do not think it is creepy per say if done right, society sees it as creepy and conditiones you 24/7 to think it is desperate, creepy and weird. You are basically going against all social norms which ofc are fake in an absolute sense but you feel them in the relative survival sense.

    How do you condition yourself not to care about society norms?

  10. Posted

    @Leo Gura

    2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    If you often see 4-5 girls worth approaching then why are you asking? There it is! Now fucking approach.

    It is just that daygame and hitting on girls randomly on the street has a horrible connotation because mostly really creepy people do it and it is considered weird by society's standards. This really holds me back when it comes to doing it. 

    Also a lot of girls when by themselves wear headsets and seem unapproachable af in general.

    I am talking mostly about the street here. In a park for eg it is different.

    What about libararies? They have a lot of nice girls there but it is usually a quieter environements, people are busy studying. You ever did approaches there?

  11. Posted

    Hey guys, so i have done some nightgame recently and even though it has potential i do not really see myself in it. I feel like my social skills are greatly reduced and in general it is not a very enjoyable experience. From the loud music, to the great importance of physicality, to dealing with friends and girls never solo i would like to find some new avenues to meet girls. Interesting enough, i thought girls were going to be super receptive in night game but apparently they always tend to stick with their groupie and it is not easy at all to get convos started (not easier than it would be in a gym or park for example). This suprised me a bit.

     Just some information about myself for those that do not know me.

    -I am a natural introvert with decent social skills. I excel in 1 on 1 communication with a chill, laid back atmosphere around it.

    -I am not a big fan of heavy physicality from the start, i prefer to use my verbals rather than my physicality at the beginning.

    -My natural standards for looks are not that high. Every time im out and about (i have an active lifestyle), i see at least 4-5 girls worth approaching. So the situation that Leo describes where he has to walk for a few hours to find 3-4 girls worth approaching does not apply to me. 

    - I want to get better and have the ability to get a girl if i want to as long as i am wiling to work for it.

    So with these charactersistics, which place would you reccomend?

    I assume daygame would be the answer, but where exactly? Where does daygame work best?

  13. Posted · Edited by Karmadhi

    26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    Even in Vegas finding 10 girls worth approaching is not always easy.

    What places are you going man :P Even in the meh clubs of my city (which is not that great for girls), i can usually find 8-10 girls worth approaching, especially since girls change every 1 hour or so (some leave, some come etc).

    Plus John is not claiming to get 70 numbers of 9/10 looking girls, probably he approaches anything 7/10 or higher. 

     

  14. Posted

    5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    The problem is that you don't approach and finding even 10 girls worth approaching is not easy.

    In a big club in a city full of hot girls like south america where he lives or las vegas in your case it should not be that hard. Like i go in clubs in my city and i easily find 20+ girls in a place much worse. In clubs girls are usually dressed up and wear clothes that make them look their best to the point of catfishing so i doubt it is hard. Even a 6 can become a 7.5-8 in a club. 

  15. Posted

    So i have watched some of his content and noticed that he says that most guys can get good with girls much faster than RSD or other companies claim. He says his students get good with girls super fast, they dont need 2000 approaches because they are given an optimized results-proof system. Personally i find his logistics advice to be the best in the internet but the claims seem a bit far feched to me. Like virgins getting 5 lays within the first 8 weeks of using his programs. John himself has probably legit game and his gfs are super hot but im unsure about the claims when it comes to his students results.

    Would like to hear your opinion about this.

    Here attached is the video (sceeenshot since i am on my phone atm) of the video where he makes the claims

     

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  16. Posted · Edited by Karmadhi

    7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    I know a 5'4" black dude who's my wing in Vegas who gets threesomes and white girls sucking his dick in the bathroom within 20 minutes of meeting him.

    My other wing is Mexican and he gets laid no problem.

    I have noticed you always use nightclubs as examples. With drunk girls things are quite different. I know a girl that made out with a guy in a club that she found very ugly because she was drunk as fuck. It would never happen in a sober setting. Do these guys you mentioned get equal results during the day or through social circle? So in places where girls are sober?

  17. Posted

    4 minutes ago, RedLine said:

    Narcisistic, no compassion

    That is not even evil though. He is not hurting or killing anyone.

    And he definetly has compassion, i dont know why you think he does not. Keep in mind some of his videos he is playing a personna, in his interviews he seems very likable and interesting where he is being himself properly.

    He is quite narcisisitic though for sure, however most successful people tend to be so unfortunately.

  18. Posted

    2 hours ago, RedLine said:

    he is evil.

    1. Evil does not exist.

    2. Even if he did, how is he exactly evil?

     

    1 hour ago, Cireeric said:

    But I think overall he has a toxic attitude and worldview.

    His worldview is toxic yes however i think young men these days need his attitude a lot. Young men today are so fucking lazy, victim mindsets and soft that his advice would benefit them a lot if they apply it correctly and ignore some of the toxic elements.

  19. Posted

    On 4/27/2022 at 9:47 PM, Leo Gura said:

    To me the biggest point of building up a savings is to be able to use it to launch your own career/LP/biz by taking time off from a grinding 9-5 job.

    Do you think this is also somewhat personal taste? Personally, i prefer a 9/5 job than doing my own thing. I am not really an entreprenuer kind of person, i enjoy working in a decent firm more. However the nature of the job is really important so doing something you like in a firm versus doing your own thing.

    Is one clearly superior to the other or is it subjective depending on individual taste

  20. Posted

    So i have noticed that Leo among others say that a female will get attracted to guys she sees as higher value than herself. So this means in turn that in a couple, the guy will usually be higher value (according to her perception of value) at least.  For example, females find much more if the guy earns less than them than the guy does. Same for confidence, same for neediness, same for status, ambition etc. Meanwhile guys do not care if a girl is below his percieved value that much, so if she is less attractive than him physically.

    So does this mean that in turn females prefer to be inferior in a couple? 

    This may sound mysogonistic as fuck (and it is kinda) but i just wanted this clarified for me. 

    It really confuses me when Leo and others say that females will get attracted only to guys they percieve to be higher value than herself.

    Meanwhile i rarely see average looking guys not getting attracted to average looking girls (im using the guys defintion of value). 

    So a guy is more much tolerant about this shit than the girl, at least from what i have noticed.

     

  21. Posted

    If you re a soft nice guy like a lot of men are these days, especially in developed countries then he will be a good counter balance to that.

    I really like his no fucks given attitude and has a lot of stage blue and orange wisdom to him, especially when it comes to mental fortitude.

    He can get overlooked for some "asshole loud mouth player" but he has better psychology and mental mastery than most guys out there.

    However, i heavily disagree with his political, society and conspiracy views.

    Just ignore those and focus more on his advice on how to make you a stronger and less fucks given person. 

    Also he has this amaizing video that i always watch whenever i feel bad or hopeless with girls.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stZN7F1orq8

  22. Posted

    Honestly, i do not know. 

    Getting a guy like this has its pros and cons.

    Pros is that you get a guy you are highly attracted to and is high value.

    Cons is that he knows that and will not put up with much BS from you and you will feel a bit scared that he might leave you for someone else. That is the issue of dating very desired people by society. You never know how long it will last, especially since guys tend to like sexual variety.

    So up to you, you will not loose anything by trying. However if you want my advice, do not date such guys seriously. Most likely they will break your heart.

    Such guys are good for casual stuff.

    Try to find a high value guy that is less popular with girls if you want something serious that is also safe and fulfilling. Yes, they do exist trust me :) 

  23. Posted

    So i have in the last 2 years tried actively to improve my social skill and made quite some progress.

    The fields i have made progress have been mostly in becoming more expressive, so smiling more, laughing more, laughing harder, being more emotional in the way i talk, having a higher delta of vocal tonality etc etc.

    However, i have also noticed that this does make me more likable but i feel like seducting is something else.

    It is more chill, focused on a specific type of eye-contact, more sophisticated, bit more serious and brutal.

    How do i balance these two? So basically i feel like the first "mode" as we can call it, is a bit platonic and will make me likable but attraction wise?

    I do not know atm how to juggle the two "modes"

    I know the ideal is to combine both but for me at the moment seems impossible. I cannot be high energy, funny, expressive and at the same time to be chill, seductive, dominant energy and ruthless attitude (masculine energy 101).

    Any advice?

     

  25. Posted

    4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    He's basically gotta shed the old selfish pickup ways -- which is hard to do after 20 years of nonstop pickup. It would help if he did a video actually addressing the immaturity, narcissism, and toxicity of pickup culture. Then he could lead people to a more ethical and conscious form of socialization, dating, and relationship advice.

    Would you consider statements as "Jelousy is a feminine trait" and stuff like this toxic or sexist? I have seen quite a bit of Owen and RSD old videos where they talk about females and tbh i did not find much mysogonistic stuff there, at least not more than you would find in a book like "The Red Queen" or "The Way of the Superior Man". Saying women want to date masculine alpha males and hate soft betas is kinda true.

    Maybe i missed something? Yes pick up can def be toxic af but it is the pick up itself in general more than what RSD was saying specifically.