Breakingthewall

many have understood and tried. living in a cave, depriving himself of any comfort, sleeping on a bed of nails, fasting for a month, etc. works up to a point it seems, but well used psychedelics work best and you don't need to torture yourself

good understanding, there is no yin without yang. the problem is that it is almost impossible to abandon preferences, and as soon as you prefer one thing over another, as the poem says, heaven and earth separate infinitely. For the glass to be truly transparent, for you it has to be the same as your children being tortured or having Christmas dinner with your family. Quite difficult, but to jump that difficult step, we have psychedelics, which make the opaque transparent without having to renounce being human.

Would you get to see the beauty in a group rape of a 10-year-old girl? The problem with life and why people darken and, as you say, become opaque in the light of the absolute, is the darkness of life. It is a difficult enigma to understand, but possible. But it's not a good idea to underestimate it's difficulty

I would say that the understanding of reality that he exposes is authentic but limited. his explanation of the collective ego, of what a human is and how he creates lasting energy patterns based on social interaction is quite good. what it doesn't explain at all is how to reverse those patterns. He says that one day he woke up and was free of all mental rumination, but that doesn't happen to anyone. He seems sincere when he talks about it, but you never know! there is money in the game, and lots of it

I'm right and you're wrong. I know well your realization, the total existential horror. You're alone stuck in eternity. There are no words to explain this. the problem is to find the balls to return to it several times. the solution is 5 meo. this is very difficult with only lsd, but if you do it with 5 meo, then with lsd it happens. the thing is: infinity. your realization is limited, it is limited by emptiness and loneliness. when these barriers are broken, the absolute will occur. then you will see yourself standing up with open arms screaming yeeeeeeesssssss. Hallelujah. the total, absolute, infinite, unimaginable, unthinkable. the total power of total freedom: god. You have hit the jackpot.

what you say makes sense, the first time i had a full psychedelic trip, my realization was that i was existence and i was trapped in existing for all eternity. an absolutely negative feeling, of existential horror. but then I did more complete breakthroughs again and what happened is that I had to break that last barrier, in which I was really still myself, and that the absolute total infinity was. This is the exact opposite of existential horror, it's total freedom, absolute power and something so positive it's infinitely positive, so if I were you I'd keep pushing

That's right, and if you look at life you will see that it is completely ruthless and cruel, so why would it be different in humans? yin and yang, life has a glorious face and a horrible face. the joy of existence, the fullness of love, and an 8-year-old boy forced to torture his mother with a knife to death. birth, joy, love, fullness on the one hand. pain, agony, suffering, torture, corruption and death for another. you cannot understand one without the other.

I have many genuine questions, but the only one who can answer them is myself, so I do not come here to ask anyone anything, because no matter how much wisdom they have, what they tell me will not answer anything. What I come to is to do a joint exercise of self-inquiry and understanding of reality. for me quite useful by the way

my experience in psychedelic trips is that reality is, let's say, fragmented. the real point of view is infinite, it includes infinite points of view within which there are infinite points of view, etc. that's me, but by some kind of trick I wear the blinders of a donkey and that makes my perception limited to what appears to be now. if I take a psychedelic, the trick wears off and I perceive infinity. The hard thing to understand is, where is infinity now if I don't perceive it? It's right here, but my state of consciousness deceives me and makes me see what I see. So, what are the others? I am right now making a performance. Like a dance with myself. They are exactly as conciouss as me.

it is your subconscious rising to the surface. It is hidden for a reason, since at the time you could not handle it, and to hide it has created energy blockages. letting go of all that is the first part of the spiritual work. There comes a point where you do psychedelics and there's none of that. you begin to notice the effect and suddenly... infinity. you do not go through the trauma phase since it is integrated into the conscious and the mistic happens directly. This does not mean that the trauma is not traumatic, only that it is integrated into the conscious. You will receive waves of sadness in this process, but it is either that or the blockage

Exactly, total happiness, total freedom. the meaning of the expression: hallelujah

Very good explanation. The difficult part is the final part, this: Difficult or impossible to understand but it's the best explanation that i read. You could realize it, but you can't understand it, or at least i cant

everything is the absolute truth since nothing else exists, but you can carry out a constant fragmenting activity that makes it seem to you that reality is something that it is not, although it continues to be what it is. So, the more in that direction your constant mental processing is, the more distortion will be generated, the more confusion and suffering, which are also the absolute truth, but we want to avoid them because they lead to an experience of madness and existential horror called hell.

the only really valid requirement would be what is occurring in your direct experience now. the second, what has happened in the past, the third, the deductions based on this, but knowing that all this is just ideas, although useful to mentally process in a cleaner way, since it is inevitable to mentally process.

Really? You do well, integrity must be total

direct experience goes beyond that. It's not like: I have the experience of riding a bicycle, so I know how to do it. On the other hand, I have taken a theoretical course on flying helicopters and it is different. no, the theoretical course is also direct experience. Mental marturbation is a direct experience of mental masturbation. its content is irrelevant. there is no direct experience vs. reason, there is direct experience and nothing else, and everything, absolutely, is within your direct experience. "outside" does not even exist as an idea, it is non-existence, which does not exist. direct experience is this, the now, and it is reality aka god. is the absolute total infinite. This is awakening, to realize the now, the direct experience without outside, of unfathomable depth. Every time you think in terms of "outside" you are fragmenting yourself, getting into the dream, into deception. you can say: yes, well, that's very good, but the others really have a conscience. ok, you have to realize that your direct experience is thinking about others and what they are have conscience. they are just something within your direct experience, a concept. Is the concept right or wrong? it is indifferent about the reality that it is a concept within your direct experience, and nothing more than that. Different quality. Reality and idea inside the reality

He just kicked you out as a moderator, but you look better in street clothes than in uniform. @RebornConsciousness Sorry if I was stupid before, but what I wanted to say is that the nuances that are discussed are difficult to capture. For me, Leo is correct, and I am grateful that there is someone who is. this matter is extremely subtle, if you want to understand it, you have to have a very open mind. The people he kicked out were really just repeating the same thing over and over again and their comments were destructive and almost never constructive.

It could be said that there is only one certainty: existence exists, and I am. the rest is speculation. You can't know if your car will be in the garage or if the universe will collapse into a black hole in 5 minutes. but you can look within yourself and see that all these are ideas that are within you, that you are the existence that exists and that you are unfathomable

It is quite simple since there is a qualitative difference: pure reason is within your direct experience, therefore reason cannot encompass or define direct experience, it can try making a small sketch that does not mean anything. direct experience is the highest, nothing is above because nothing else exists. therefore your direct experience is the absolute truth

conceptually it is obvious that your pov is not the only one that exists since existence is eternal. If my pov were the only thing, eternity would be a guy with the phone on a terrace with a cafe. in eternity infinite povs have happened. where are they? they are here, now, since infinity is the case. but on the other hand, the absolute reality is me now and everything else is just ideas. that others exist is one idea, that others do not exist is another idea. the unfathomable infinite reality is this current moment and nothing else exists, neither existed nor will exist. that is the absolute truth and anything else is missing the point and fragmenting your mind. we can do it as an exercise in speculation, but it has no value. The truth is this, now.

The thing is that I will never in the eternity of existence leave my point of view, so my pov is the absolute. Inside my pov are the others. do they have the other povs? if they have it, it has to be my pov. How? I don't know, it's irrelevant. The reality is that I am reality and outside of me there is nothing. maybe the others are me in the future, or in the past, or just images. all these are just thoughts. the others are real when I imagine them and disappear when I stop imagining them. think: yes, but they exist when I don't think about them, it's just a thought. It is necessary to differentiate between real and concept. the others are concept, the reality is me. We could focus in the real and go deep or in the concept and walk around. Is the concept false? No, it's just a concept. Are the others real? Conceptually, I'd say yes, but it's jus a concept, it worth nothing in the realizing of the absolute truth.

That is so because your understanding is that of a monkey trying to understand a computer. the normal thing is that you start hitting it while you scream

Yeah, I'd say its correct. The world illusion is to point to something that is deceptive, different from what it seems. you cannot say that a stone is illusion because it really is a mental creation. it is still a stone. but the fact that it seems something foreign to you is an illusion

Of course, life is full of wonders, music, landscapes, magic, power, beauty. That's the first symptom that you are getting deep, but there is more. the ecstasy of existence is normal when you get out of the ego. this is the sober state. once you're here is when the psychedelic game gets interesting.

Yes but the illusion is inside you. In the moment that you think "outside" you are lost, fragmented.