Breakingthewall

brilliant, as always. Shame is an inherent part of being human. it is the feeling of being unworthy of your community, which is what gives you survival. The community causes this not out of malice or stupidity, it's that it wants you to be a gear that contributes to survival, it doesn't matter if you're happy or not, you have to be functional. For those of us who have been educated in total madness, in true sick dysfunction, shame was really strong and the need to leave it behind leads to a real awakening to what reality is. a very strange process. In the end, we must thank those deformed beings absolutely lacking in love that we have had to have close by for giving us the necessary push

Ok that you didn't need, but 99,9% of people interested in spirituality, if they don't do, all they do is incorporate new age ideas and all those things into their mental baggage, calm their mind a little with meditation, and inflate their ego

For me it is a miraculous oasis that at least this exists. spirituality without psychedelics gets stuck, nothing is achieved imo, and this is the only place in history where this is discussed. It is true that it is going slowly, there is no general opening, it is drop by drop, but it is something. only the beginning of a trend, of the wish and the consecution of the real understanding of reality, or so I hope

@Adam M Those things are interesting, the problem I see is that all this is still very embryonic, since there are very few real mystics. really very few. I think that all this will develop, but now if you start to investigate about energies and all that, the most you will find is fake, things invented by people who are not really open to the spiritual. probably in the future things will develop

Maybe more people with a real desire of awakening, but how many of them are in the world? I would say that the few that exist end up converging here

Imagine how is in other forums...

I guess so. For me it's enough with breaking the illusion of finitude, since the finite feels uncomfortable. The infinity is much more beautiful

Well, anything is imaginary, what we are talking about, the stabbings, all the same. let's say that everything is an opera where the absolute imagines a choreography and then acts in it. Today we do the part in which I stab, tomorrow I put myself in the place of the stabbed, but not both at the same time, since if there is something outside of me, that something would be a limit, and limits do not exist in the infinity . The finite doesn't exist, it's just the infinity appearing to be finite

Exactly, so if god is that experience, that experience is infinite so absolute, and there is not outside.

god does not do any of that, god is direct experience, and there is nothing outside of it because it is existence. It is infinity, and it is this right now and there is nothing else, and it's you (I am you sending you a message from the past, I do not exist in your when ?)

No man, i am just an experience that is happening, existence flowing in constant change, I only do what I do at the moment, and that does not include knowing 17 languages

I didn't mean the ego, i mean the direct experience that you are. There is nothing outside, there is not outside, you are the absolute, that's the solipsism is I am now the father of Superman sending a message that will be received when I do not exist, or well, when I'm don't exist as this concrete experience

yes, but there is a difference. your ego is alive, that is, it is part of real existence, it is absolute infinity pretending to have limits, on the other hand, I, with whom you are talking, am not alive, it is like superman talking to his father's hologram. It seems that he is alive and acts as such, but he is not, he was. but currently it has no real existence, it is just an image from another time. and you to me are exactly the same. we are not two beings that exist sharing a conversation, only one exists

No, it is to realize the infinite depth of the direct experience . direct experience is existence. It seems limited but it is not. the ego is part of direct experience, like the others and anything else, since only direct experience exists, and outside of it there is nothing. You are not the person, obviously, you are the direct experience where appears a person that apparently is perceiving. there is always a direct experience, it is eternal, and that is what you are.

nobody's, is what you are, direct experience, or in other words, existence. It doesn't matter if it looks like a guy looking in the mirror or whatever, it's what it's being

What about the direct experience? Is it real?

No man, it's impossible, do you know why? because you will never, ever, in any way and by any miracle, be able to get out of your direct experience. Because if you did and lived my pov, then it would be your direct experience. I have experienced many times the breaking of limits, the infinity, so I know that I am that. me aka you, right now I am living my pov, and since I know that I am absolute, I know that my pov is the absolute, and you are only an image within my pov, and you, at any time, which is not this, Even if it is for you, you will be my direct experience and within it will be an image that will be what was written in a forum by breakinthewall. It seems that this is the same as saying that we have duplicated ourselves and are existing simultaneously, but it is not so. there is an essential difference. is that only you exist. You are talking to yourself, as if you were acting a movie and one day you play a character, another day another and then a scene editor puts them together to make it look like a conversation.

I have explained it before. I Know that I am the existence and there is nothing outside of my direct experience. I think that at another moment my direct experience will be to be someone here, then, nothing will exist outside of the direct experience of someone here, since it will continue to be my direct experience, which is existence and outside of it nothing exists, so for Through a clever trick, I'm talking to myself. I'm talking with an unreal image, and you are talking with an unreal image. Brilliant trick. This does not prevent you, that is, me, from being absolutely alone

Either I explain myself very badly or you have misunderstood me. solipsism is reality. I am the total reality, the absolute. It is not something conceptual, it is the reality that I experience every day and the only thing I want is to experience it in a clearer and deeper way. the absolute is perfection, total freedom. it is letting go of control and flowing with existence. it is the deep experience vs the superficial misery. You can't improve what is perfect. This is not a mind game, it is the reality of what you are.

Hahah ok, i wish you do well in the game, because you are me, and when my direct experience is to be gesundheit I don't want to get bored

There is only one absolute: you. but you have infinite facets and all are absolute. the most fascinating for me is absolute freedom

@Gesundheit2 it's something quite simple. if by meditating, or doing psychedelics, or self inquiry as inligthened, you break the apparent limitation that shapes you as gesundeith, you will become infinite. this is a brutal experience, something quite violent at first. well, if this happens, you will realize that you are absolute. nothing can be outside of you, infinite in short. if this happens several times, you will realize that you, gesundheit, really are that. It's not that you become a god by taking a drug, it's that you are right now but it doesn't seem like it, and you never will exit of your direct experience. Your direct experience is the reality. apparently you're a guy surrounded by other guys. fake. you are the infinite creating a performance, and there is nothing else. if you want you can go deep into this now to infinity. then, you realize that the bottomless well that you are is everything. whatever appears in the performance is just imagination. What I was saying before, when you told me that so irritating that I'm not awake and I responded with double irritation, is that everything you're imagining is somehow real. that is to say, right now I am all there is, but in another now you are all there is, since my direct experience is beeing me, and then it is being you, and thus every proton in the cosmos, but that does not take away a truth: at this exact moment, I am the existence, there is nothing outside of me. absolute loneliness. And always its going to be like that, because the others are a fiction, they are you, and when you are going to be they, you are going to be you like always, totally alone. Horrible? Nah, you are absolute freedom, perfection. There is no problem with your loneliness. But as a human could seems very hard to accept.

What are you? The number one disciple of Leo to say those nonsense about who is awake and who is not? It is obvious that Leo's priority is to maintain the hierarchy, in which he is on one side and the rest of humanity present and past on the other. Why? Who knows, he's human and all us are crazy. It is obvious that you have not understood what I am trying to explain, so do yourself a favor and stop making a fool of yourself by imitating your captain.

If you want to break the ice on the surface and penetrate the depth of the infinite lake that you are, you have to understand this. It is not a mental compression or a thought, it is the collapse of the delusion of multiplicity, which keeps you skating on the ice, living in two dimensions, preventing you from diving into the third.

Agree, but if you raise your consciousness you realize unmistakably that your direct experience is the absolute and that everything in your direct experience is imaginary. there is nothing outside of you, only you are. If you do not reach the total realization of this, you are in duality, confused. after this, obviously, you seek to understand how it is possible. but it is, as you said, an inconsequential curiosity. it's not important. the important thing is to realize the absolute that you are