Breakingthewall

Mmmm in this don't seems that you changed your perspective. Sounds like experiences. But in your previous message seems that you had understood .

Not in my case. Have you ever realize what you are?

Exactly. you have completely understood the matter, or so it seems. a pleasure to see it. I would like to better understand the matter of "the others", but I am seeing it. Everything is a reflection of me. There are no others, but same time...there are other reflections Could you explain how and when this change of perspective occurred in you?

Spirituality is about to understand what you are. almost no one in the world does. it's possible to do. It's absolutely crazy, shocking.

the others are a fucking illusion man. there are no others. what i am s a bottomless well. everything inside the well is illusion. there is only one, me, the well. I'm not talking to anyone ????. I woke up at dawn and I see it absolutely clearly. Be careful realizing this, it's very surprising. But I'm talking with anyone? Uff this is very difficult to understand. Now i lost it. In the moment that you think in the others, others become real. Crazy

No, 20 mg each one. I hope i never going to need to do that again

I'm biased, but to certain point. At the end everything is direct experience and that's it. But i prefer do good business that be a homeless eaten by the rats

Yes, I'd rather be lying on a bed with a feather duvet than on a nails mattress of fakir being naked in the winter night. This shows that I'm not awake

it is a very complicated matter. I do not understand. Let's say the entire reality is my direct experience. it is absolute, there can be nothing outside of it. This is obvious. you can never get out of your direct experience. if you did, and entered into my direct experience, that would become your direct experience. so for you your direct experience is absolute, nothing exists outside of it and never will. So, where is now what is not in your direct experience? The only answer would be: it does not exist If I am now talking to my girlfriend, what is she? it is part of my direct experience. is her real? Yes, as part of my direct experience. does she have a conscience? Her consciousness is not now in my direct experience, therefore she doesn't have it. It may be that she was my direct experience and I have forgotten it, so I am seeing a version of myself from the past, but now it has no existence outside of my experience. It's always me, it's always my experience. outside of it there is no existence

The sun is something that is inside you. Open your eyes, take a walk down the street. you will see a psychedelic trip. everything is in you. everything is created by you from the infinite that you are.

Osho or sadhguru don't try to make you to realize what you are. they try to make you happier, more functional, a better person. It's a good goal, but it's very different

Leo gura is the only person in the world who teaches how to realize what you are. without psychedelics it is practically impossible to realize. What's more, without 5 meo dmt, it's almost impossible to do. really, it is a very complicated matter, the person is a giant barrier, you can read all the books on spirituality 1000 times that you will not succeed. you need magic

@Rahra maybe, but without psychedelics it would have been impossible for me to realize this. it's a complete change of perspective, like turning a sock inside out. The difficulty is in how we are designed: as a perceiver that receives information from the outside. this makes all our mental pathways work that way. They can tell you a thousand times that spirituality is looking inside yourself that you will not understand. there is only inside. outside is not a possibility. the outside is the illusion. you are absolute. from here, begins the true understanding of what we are.

this is what people think spirituality is. Almost no one understands that spirituality is the understanding of reality. From his point of view, everything he says is justified, and many people will share his pov, especially if they hear leo say things about alien rats. only few will see the total sincerity in him. It's like a cutting line, most will stand aside, a few will understand

The problem with Leo and his teachings is that no one understands him, and everything is misinterpreted. Those who follow him the most are people interested in improving their lives, not in the truth. Well, it's just that almost everyone is interested in that. very few actually do not even understand that it is a possibility. They just want to suffer less and be happier. That's what we humans are, petty little animals. but hey, at least there is one person in the world who teaches this. If one day you understand it, you will be extremely surprised.

No problems with that.

there are people who do not need healing but who want to delve into reality. healing is very social, all the wounds come from the other. There comes a time when there is no other or wounds, it is time to go deep. So yes, I would say there are two categories of spirituality.

God is not alone, it is unfathomable, it loves himself, he dances with himself infinitely. and there is always more to dig deeper, it never ends. the others are aspects of god, facets of god. everything apparent is that. everything is illusion but truly, everything is real. God is not a video projector that makes movies because it is bored. God is the infinite dancing with itself. His dance has love as its end, making love, and everything that exists comes from it. This is not a story that God creates for fun. It is a wonderful, intricate, cosmic dance, consisting of love flowing, intertwining, creating art.

You talk about different things, that's why you don't agree. Some speak of healing, for which the group is useful, and other of transcendence and God, for which the group is an obstacle.

@halfknots interesting. maybe do a test. I will surely do it in the future. For vaping I use 100ml flasks, with a cork with a metal stem inside for aspiration. quite effective

really? how is that? Although for me for now 5 meo is more than enough. It's amazing what this substance can do, I intend to go as deep as possible with it.

Yeah, I think from now on I can really go deeper every time. This time I have really understood. what I am. I am aware right now. If it weren't for the fact that I have a work trip tomorrow, I would continue. Another thing that I have learned: from now on my trips will be at night. the day is a great distraction

most people think so. from that point of view, the psychedelic experience is false, since it distorts reality. they consider themselves receivers who try to capture the external objective reality in the most precise way possible. they are completely wrong. there is no outside. reality is them. As long as they cannot see this, all they will do is widen the gap of their error. Until you realize that reality, you are deceived. When you realize that you are the reality and there is not outside, the real exploration starts

imo experiences are not false or true, they are experiences and that's it. It could be said that they are all true. the matter is: infinity. How far can you be open to infinity? Do psychedelics help you to this, to dissolve the limits? for this you need understanding. what you understand is not true or false in a conceptual sense, it is useful to dissolve the limits or it is not. deep understanding is not conceptual, it is the understanding of yourself from yourself, there is no doubt of its veracity because it opens you up.

it depends enormously. When I was 15 years old I smoked and everything was wonderful, later an unpleasant mental paranoia, ideas and more ideas about anything, so I quit, now I take two puffs and it may be that I stay mentally, or that there is an opening. more and more the second, but not consistent, fluctuates with staying in the mind analyzing, which is sterile and unpleasant. I guess it basically depends on your level of purity