Breakingthewall

What do you mean?

Yeah, I meditate and try to be in a state of silence and openness all the time. Of course it's not easy, the inertias are powerful, but working in it. I try to look deep inside myself, because I know what I'm looking for is there. reality, life, the unlimited. I realized many times, so now it's like uncomplete don't realize it. It is a work in which you have to be discerning, since you have to see what limits you, where the obstacle is. I see those ideas that I mentioned above as obstacles

You can be in a state of total silence, with zero attachment to the few thoughts that arise, and you are still limited. The only thought could be: well, I know that infinity is right here, let's see if it opens. and more silence. You can stay like this for an hour, and it won't open. There is total calm, you are completely present, but you are limited, you are still there, the center of the experience, silent but solid. You have to open up, it's something organic, like a plant that opens. It is an act of surrender and from what I see it only happens sometimes and is short-lived because there is a strong pressure from the self. When it happens, infinity opens, what you are manifests. That is spirituality, letting go of the self, being the unlimited. getting it 1 minute every day is a challenge. Your life changes completely, you know what reality is and you look for it. I guess there will come a time when it will be easy.

Limited Invented You don't need the solipsism for that. Reality is infinite, you are the universe, but within you there are infinite universes. and within it, infinite universes. That's what infinity means. They are all the same, infinite, the infinite is always the same but exists infinitely. Every person you see is an infinite universe that contains the infinite. and all the infinite, in its unimaginable infinity, is synchronized in a perfect, exact way. It is more than the mind can even intuit. You can only realize the nature of infinity, but its perfect structure is unfathomable, it is infinite. Solipsism is a finite perspective, so impossible. Finite isn't real, since infinity is.

That is so if you have reached the point in , with respect to reality, any idea has the same meaning: none. Only direct reality now is, words are unnecessary, they are obstacles, barriers. but this does not mean that you have broken the layer of ice that this moment creates. Other ice layer is the appearance of succession of events, of temporality. and after this there are more layers, non conceptual layers, until you completely open yourself. This means breaking all limits. You have broken the first limit, now you have to learn to observe yourself, to look deep into yourself. It is a very fascinating, addictive game. At some point, reality opens up, and you see yourself looking into infinity, and you realize that you are that. the great abyss , and that endless abyss lives.

What happened is what always happens in human communities. When many people organize there must be a leader. Being a leader is exhausting, completely absorbing, but there are always people willing to be one. These people have special characteristics, and a very noticeable one is the desire for power. This desire is extremely strong, and completely corrupting. This is where war always seems to arise. This is how human society works. But apart from that, Osho's idea was human freedom. a very good ideal, unfortunately humans are the way they are and utopias are difficult, perhaps impossible.

You have realized the obvious: everything is now, there is only this, the now. that is what you are. shocking, it can produce a feeling of being trapped. It's always now, this. This is the reality. but something fundamental is missing: completely opening this. There is the true awakening. Realizing that the mental is illusion and that reality is experience is a step, but the difficult thing is to open this experience completely, like a closed flower that opens. In it is infinite life vibrating, it has no bottom.

that is not like that. Leo is a genius, but he is not perfect. Leo's path in spirituality does not end here, it is beginning. We'll see where it goes, how it evolves.

Seems that people in the first world have chased enough mirages of happiness and have realized their unreality. I think that more and more people will want to get rid of the fear that it means to be a social human, and even further, get rid of the fear of suffering and death. More and more people will see that human life as it is happening is based on evasion, fear and the need to fit in, and many realized that this is a trap. they will want to truly delve into what life is, to see the infinity in the face, the real thing. Humans have to stop to be a race of suffering bastards full of fear and hate, sad, dark, isolated, addicted, and open the life that is in them, be free.

Yes and no, or at least I see it different. Yes, what you are is the infinity, the totally, right here and now, beneath this superficial hologram that is this experience is the total depth, the infinite, what we really are, but there is a fundamental nuance: the self that is having an experience is not that. The self is not going to experience infinite experiences, only this one, because it is this experience. Without the self, without the experience, the substance remains, the infinite without dimension, the total void that contains everything. In it is everything, all the infinite experiences happening infinitely. So is this me, breakingthewall, Razard, going to disappear? It is extremely difficult to see this, to separate it from the experience, to grasp what the self is, the center, the guy who is always there, and see its unreality, it is nothing, it is non-existent. Letting it go is generosity, since it is the only thing you have, but when you let it go, you receive everything. What you are is the infinite ocean of existence. This is not an experiencer, not a subject, or a receiver, or an actor who acts by will and creates. There is no creation, nothing can be created, everything is, without cause. emerges from the limitless abyss. life, its glorious substance, permeates the entirety of infinity, The total emptiness is alive because it is infinity. If you limit it seeing it as an actor, a creator, you are again there, and you are observing the infinity, not being that, so your vision is corrupted, deceived (I don't mean your vision now, but any vision), because it's a you being the center again

He answers the question of whether he is God and is creating the universe with his will, yes, and no, there is no will. I agree, will is an attribute of the ego, it implies a center with a will. that is not god, it is the self. Reality creates itself, it is an emergent of the fact of the absence of limits. His unimaginable greatness and perfection are God being. When Leo says: I am God dreaming reality, he refers to the ego. When Leo at the beginning says that he realizes that reality is a singularity of infinite love and he is about to merge with it but he doesn't because it would be the end of the universe, well, to me that seems like an ego death. and I would say that Leo has never had a total ego death. But me yes. I have disappeared and there has only been infinity, I have been that is total purity. the perfect total joy, what I always was, infinite, without a trace of the individual. completely free. that is the objective of spirituality, no other. being able to abandon the ego, the greed, open yourself, open this appearance of an individual, and let the infinite explode. total glory, there is nothing beyond this. It is total enlightenment. Hallelujah. There are no more states to search for, you are all the states, you are infinite. You are omniscient because you know everything. and everything is your being. In that everything is contained, the totality of what exists is. It's the unfathomable depth. You are that, be able to open yourself to that is the work what we are doing. Anything else are bullshit.

Well but if you have to admit that reality exists and that there are perfect forms existing in perfect synchronicity. This ultimate reality is what we are, and we can open ourselves to it. The self that you say is illusory is the center of this experience that remembers and projects, but if it disappears, reality remains.This reality is what we seek, what we want to open ourselves to. We could call it the higher self in the sense that it is what we are, although it is not a self because it is not concrete or defined, but this is just semantics. The important thing is the openness to the unlimited, this is undoubtedly and real.

Ralston's response is very weak and very paternalistic, without any interest in understanding Leo and treating him like a stupid inferior. Most spiritual teachers have narcissism as their main motivation, and Ralston seems no exception. What Leo says can be understood from different angles, although from my point of view it denotes several weak points. conceptualization and unresolved karma, search for the absolute as an evasion to not face the challenge of this life, escapism,.just my opinion reading those lines. but repeating that: be careful, the drug is bad, like a grandmother, for me denotes a condescending attitude.

I don't know if I misunderstood but Leo tells Ralston that he doesn't want to do mashamadi for his family and his girlfriend, but not because they will be sad when he disappears, but because they will disappear, like the entire cosmos, when doing mashamadi.

You are not going to experience another experience, only this one, because you are this experience. When this experience disappears, you disappear. What remains is the substance, the infinity alive. Infinity is not going to do anything, everything is now. It is infinite and cannot be understood, because our mind is finite. To understand it you have to leave your finite mind and become infinite, that is, practice spirituality and not mental masturbation.

Maybe, but if it seems limited, it is. It's like a rat maze, there's only one way out. Maybe the labyrinth is imaginary, but you are still in it. I am not talking about states of bliss, but total openness to the infinite. It is not something like I am happy, but I am joy without limit, perfect, pure. joy is just the consequence of the absence of limit, of the opening to the great vastness, to the infinite. The limits block what we are, perhaps only apparently, it is the same. Breaking those limits is very difficult but it is possible, it is a difficult game, very subtle. I myself am blocking what I want to allow to open, but once you get it once, the next one is easier, and then another, etc. For now, a moment , even 2 minutes, is enough. It is a state that forces you to want to get out of it, to return to your cage, since you are used to that, but the cage little by little is seen for what it is: a cage. It is not tolerable to live in it. We'll see if i can live looking into the face of infinity all the time.

I think we can have limited fun. But in my experience, everything limited never is enough. And let's see, maybe if we could be in unlimited state , mystical total perfection, for days, not just for 5 minutes, some deep understanding that I can't imagine could happen. Something is totally clear to me, I'm going to the unlimited, the limited is shit for me, I'm not interested in that mental frequency, it's always frustrating, like you are searching something without pause . What you are searching is the unlimited.

The objective of spirituality is not to understand things, it is to open yourself to the source, to the infinite, to joy, to life. For that it can be useful to understand things, but the objective is openness. Understanding things is nonsense if you can't understand all things. Why do you want to understand some, if there are infinitely more that you don't understand? With your finite mind you can understand finite things, so zero in comparison with infinity. If you open to infinity, you understand everything, because understanding=being. Understanding is infinite joy, infinite life. That's it. So at the end you can do two things: One, be in a limited state, where you use the conceptual mind to understand limited things. . Two, be in unlimited state, open to infinity. Then you don't use the mind, because you are unlimited, so being is mixed with knowing, and with everything else. There is just openess to infinity, the real thing, the joy. This joy is total understanding. In the state 1, you can't bring the total joy. The state 1 closes the total joy with it's structures. In. The state 2 you can't bring the structures, because the state 2 break all of them. In short, the obvious: all that you think in the limited state, is limited, so the unlimited can't be here. And all that you are in the unlimited state is unlimited. In the exactly moment that is limited, you are in the limited state. Could be said that reality is unlimited, so the limited state is just an appearance, so all the structured understanding is just an appearance. The limited mind doesn't like to admit this, doesn't like to admit that is just a shape without any meaning. Is it possible to have unlimited understanding? Yes, totally, but what I see for now is that it's impossible to bring to the limited, to the structured mind, because if you do, it's not the unlimited, its false by definition.

The goal of this is not to know things, it is to open yourself to the infinite. The mental structures, the insights, are within the infinite, they cannot contain it. Its only usefulness is to promote openness. Ultimately, the mind must be empty of content, of structure, since all of that is limiting. Once you open yourself to infinity, there is nothing you can bring from there to the conceptual world, since the conceptual world is a construction within infinity. Yes but what he says means anything? Meaning is an illusion, in fact, when it's said that reality is illusion means that meaning is illusion. Reality is existence, life, creation. You are a creation of existence and same time the existence. If you want to position yourself as a creation, then use the structured mind. If you want to open yourself to total existence, then you must let it go. Everything you think about existence is irrelevant, except if it helps you open to the state of pure existence.

First, his addiction to knowing things. He is glorifying the concept, enclosing reality in words. To be awake is to know that you are God, you are creating reality and others are not real. All of these are constructions of the mind, structures that the rational mind creates, that are within reality, and it wants to enclose reality within them. He does this because he cannot let go of the center of experience, the self, the creator of structures. To do so, you have to abandon all structures, open yourself to the infinite that you are. If you are creating structures, then the opening is not real, it is just a psychedelic trip where there is a partial opening mixed with structures twisted by the substance. To become infinite you must let go of everything, and everything means letting go of yourself completely, so let go all the definitions. How could you ask to someone: are you aware that you are god, and you are love? What means god for that person? And love? They are just words. But one thing is sure, when you say "you are god" you are deceived. God isn't"you" . You, the self, is the center of the experience, created by the experience, the one who thinks. Is inside of the reality, but he thinks that is the center of the infinity, the one who is always there, creating the experience, inventing the others and playing a game. So, a subject. The infinity is not a subject, a subject is created in the infinity. That way of thinking, I'm god, I'm imagining, etc, is greed. Everything for me, for the center, to make the ego immortal and powerful. Awakening is the opposite, that's why almost nobody likes, is generosity, drop yourself in the void, give up your need to understand, to be a center, to remain, to know, to exist, and infinite reality, the limitless ocean of existence, is revealed. You are that, and by realizing that, you see clearly that everything you think means absolutely nothing, because the you who thinks means nothing.

I don't know if Ralston is enlightened or not, but I see clearly how leo is attached to the mental grips, to the structures. That surely leads to deception. It is also a sad to see what this forum has become, religious people, believers, who have adopted Leo's ideas and who defend them against non-believers. True spirituality is breaking all structures, not adopting others based on your insights in psychedelic trips, or worse, on the insights of another.

Leo is not trying to understand the reality in a philosophical level, if it were, would be obvious. This yes, there is a distortion. I don't know exactly what because his explanation is vague now. Maybe the thing is just that he's no being totally honest Id say it's impossible, I listen the realization of others just as a couriosity. here and now is the reality alive, the only source of understanding. But I see a lot here that the people adopt the Leo's ideas and they think that they are their own realizations.

I see clearly that barrier and I think: Leo is trapped, deceived. delirious.l but on the other hand I look at reality, at myself, and I am able to open myself, to realize the infinite, but I do not understand anything, neither how reality appears as it does nor why, sometimes but not permanently and I don't trust of my insight about the cosmos. But I think that it must be possible to go deeper and understand it. to be in states of total openness, without mind, in which understanding of the cosmos occurs. why not? He says that's what he's aiming for, that he delves into non-conceptual understanding to a level that no one else does, and maybe you can have a limited mind, somehow still trapped in the mental bubble but still reach very deep levels with psychedelics. This is not my case, I only look for openness, not understanding, understanding limits me, it traps me, but maybe this can change I will read the conversation with Ralston, interesting, thanks for sharing

That's just your belief. Mine is that reality is totally free.

The feeling of a barrier I would say is his attachment to concepts. It seems that he puts the concept above him, not below him, like a tool that they really are. He deifies the concept a bit, that's why it's difficult to understand him, there are rigidities, straight lines, limits.