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  1. Posted

    44 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    The entire fucking Universe is an example of sublime balance.

    Surrender to it and realize that all is as it should be.

    but leo isnt desire part of what is and should be surrendered to? thats what im doing here any way. when i started this thread i had a desire to share my thoughts and as im typing r now i have a desire to reply to u. so ultimately i am fully surrendered to what is and i understand that this is how it should be but then what else should i do? desire still exists and its moving me and i dont have a desire to resist my original desire haha so i just let it take control. i should suppress my desire? is that what ur saying? b cuz other wise we agree and theres no resistance here just an expression of my self probably due to being unfulfilled and due to the current patterns of my psyche

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    3 hours ago, tenta said:

    People do want to question it, because there's enough of a motivation to do that due to the points above and you can cling to hierarchy but if you look at evolution you'll see it's been heading towards more equality. I was not saying to get rid of hierarchy, but to get rid of some and keep but change some, which would get around the drawback of having to detox on a collective level and go with the more extreme solution you're proposing. Also you must have miss-typed because you said questioning structures to death, won't get us to question structures to death.

    i would love to hear more about this equality cuz i dont really see it in action. i believe r now less than 1% of ppl control more than 99% of the money and resources like extreme alpha chimps so hows that more equal? literally 99% of people r hamsters stuck in wheels labouring for those 1% and even worse they fail to see it. how sad! things r not always explicit and obvious u have to have a keen eye and a clear perception to connect the dots. r now we r even more enslaved than the labour that built the pyramids. human beings will look at us thousands of years later they will think of how marvellous these things weve created so far r and be amazed at this simple yet cunning trick. a trick made by changing the outfit and stripping u from the inside without u even noticing and rather with ur own will and support. its already way inhumane but were used to it so it goes unnoticed. i assume u think uve questioned hierarchy to death? sounds like u could go further

    3 hours ago, tenta said:

    You didn't elaborate on what you mean by a more individualized and sophisticated system (that leads to less fulfillment of desires like money, caused by rebelling against hierarchy) but unjust hierarchies are actually not advantaged, a more flexible and open minded system (in a company for example) can out compete one that is too greedy or hierarchical and so lead to more money than otherwise. There are natural hierarchies but what I'm talking about is man-made ones, which are irrationally putting lower IQ people at the top. 

    i think were running around in circles hear and what i said above should be enough 

  4. Posted

    1 hour ago, tenta said:

    The problem is that people defending hierarchy are more specifically:

    - simply defending abusive bosses or abusive people who are higher up in a hierarchy in general

    - denying how much hierarchies have put the most sadistic, unwise, tyrannical people at the top

    - denying that the motivation within hierarchy is wanting control over another person's life or power (there are other motivations obviously)

    - denying that what leads to climbing a hierarchy isn't a quality that they find desireable, like being conformist

    i agree all these points basically boil down to the essential two points ive mentioned earlier which r desire and programming and the solution imo is to question all structures to death but that of course takes decades of dedicated work but any way it seems like uve missed my point that even questioning all structures to death wont get us there b cuz delusion has gone way too far by now and its out of control. we actually dont want to question the hierarchy b cuz we both want it and need it so unless some thing breaks down that cycle like enormous suffering or fulfillment for instance we wont likely even desire to question it deeply enough in the first place. dont forget that even if we question it we will still be addicted to it so we will need time to detoxify too and dealing with addiction is extremely difficult on an individual level so imagine how much more difficult it would be on a massive collective level. so its not only that there r ppl who r defending the hierarchy but that i am and u r one of them unwillingly

    1 hour ago, tenta said:

    That would contradict being that enlightened

    corruption runs very deep it affects every one no matter how developed or enlightened they r of course to various degrees. its all about maintaining a certain level of control over reality and thats not an easy thing to let go of even for the most enlightened partly thats b cuz thats how the hierarchy is designed when ur on top u have certain responsibilities that u have to maintain and by letting go of control u will suck at ur job and u will get replaced soon enough by the hierarchy it self so now u can see how tricky it is to tear down or even just try to manipulate a working system

    2 hours ago, tenta said:

    The solution you're proposing isn't realistic nor would be progress, it would bring us back to an earlier time

    But here is a solution: encourage more people to rebel against unjust hierarchies and question them instead of conforming to them, because those conforming are also crucial to keeping it going. Elect good leaders that will change things and make progress when it comes to reducing abuse of power.

    i didnt propose a solution b cuz i dont believe there is any i barely shared my conclusions after thinking about the subject for my self so this conclusion is exclusive to me

    again it seems like uve missed my point its not that simple cuz theres deeper mechanisms at work here its not just about the abuse of power from the bigger picture. rebelling against the hierarchy will not simply bring a more just hierarchy but will instead merely make it more sophisticated and individualised version of it with each individual having to fulfill a certain role in that hierarchy and the more individualised and sophisticated a system is the further it gets from fulfilling the core desire of the human being which in turn makes the system harder to maintain b cuz it will tend to get corrupted easily by some thing like money which fulfills the core desire more easily and more effectively so thats where bribery and lobbying outdo morality and eventually the ppl with more money will be able to manipulate the system so u can see that its probably a dead end. this is not exclusive to money b cuz corruption works on many different levels including psychological which is the most tricky part of every hierarchy b cuz for example ppl with higher iq will manipulate ppl with lower iq both consciously and unconsciously b cuz we r easily deluded by what we cant perceive... and so on and so on 

  5. Posted · Edited by The observer

    @Leo Gura ok leo gotcha but i still believe it doesnt have to be black or white either im a devil or a angel specially with learning perhaps theres some traps which r unavoidable but there may be others that we can avoid by observing others thats why im the observer haha. of course that takes a lot of consciousness to pull off so in the end i guess ur probably right

  6. Posted · Edited by The observer

    1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

    If this was true, you'd be a slave right now living under a tyranical king. Or even more likely you'd be dead.

    Equality comes in many, many degrees. 10,000 years of human history is nothing but a record of the successes of equality over inequality. See the big picture. Evolution moves towards greater unity and love.

    i hear u leo but i think the greater unity and love r not necessarily one certain way specially not so much sophisticated like they r today they could be very simple like im proposing but the problem is that in the bigger picture there can not be equality without inequality u see what i mean leo? b cuz right now we r not more equal than before simply b cuz of the diminishing of inequality but instead b cuz our equality is built on skewing some other equalities like the natural balance by pollution for instance and by invading other countries and destroying theyre equality u see what im saying? all of the rights that some of us enjoy today r on the expense of other beings lacking them and gods judgement or balance is coming back at us to bite us in the ass and perhaps this whole covid-19 thing is one example of balance.

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    1 hour ago, VerballyHazardous said:

    Life will even out as living condition improves. Once the lower desires are fulfilled, higher one will need to be fulfilled too. The type of "utopia" you are describing is just a romantized version of purple. A true utopia is when people are fulfilled physically and spiritually, then they can express themselves with love and passion, that mean more science, more love, less animalistic behaviors.

    what im proposing is that after questioning the hierarchy of needs it becomes clear that all needs do in fact stem from one and only one need which is the need to survive whatever that means. so in our current society survival means that u have to be creative for instance b cuz otherwise others will outdo u in this aspect and u will fail to make it for long but if there was no competition then the desire to be creative would go away b cuz it would become useless and the whole process would be pointless as ur already fulfilled cuz its easy to survive and no one is going to kill u. also what im saying is that desire stems from the lack of fulfillment of that essential need so the idea of love and passion that ur talking about gets replaced by self love which makes the society im describing perhaps even beige to be more precise. and from this pov the form of love ur talking about is exactly the obstacle to create the utopian society b cuz it creates an illusory cycle that allows for competition and this environment encourages and creates all sorts of desires which all in the end aim at surviving u the only difference is that without that cycle there will be no ego and therefore no identity to survive. imagine a society where every one is enlightened and does not fear death. one last thing is that fear stems from unfulfilled needs consider that the more desires u have the more insecure u r on the inside and the purpose of those desires is to make up for that insecurity by creating an illusion of control which makes u believe that u r safe and that ur survival is maintained.

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    what i find interesting is the many ppl who tried through out history to solve the problems of poverty and hierarchical structures of society and what amuses me is that no one of them so far succeeded in that mission despite dying hard for it. here i will present a view for why its not possible to end this mess. warning this insight is derived from watching porn haha. so i was enjoying watching two ppl having sex on my screen and it hit me wht the hell is going on here? y r these ppl doing wht their doing? and then suddenly the dots connected them selves and it became clear to me how every thing work

    all animals strive to survive naturally but humans in particular have created many sophisticated systems for how survival and well being are supposed to be achieved. porn industry is one of those systems and so is every other business career religion institution etc.. so every human being is under the illusion of his particular system and is striving to climb up to the top of his system b cuz that is the narrative that he gets fed with from birth and as long as hes staying where he is or moving up wards it feels good and it feeds back positively in to his motivation to climb up and demand more while people who are moving down wards feel bad about their selves and that feeds back in to their motivation so they go down even more and the hierarchy is all about competition and deception so the more competitive and deceptive u are the higher ur chances will get.

    any way so ppl start from some where but they dont have enough power until they are at the top. all right so ur at the top enjoying all the pros spending money enjoying sex etc.. u will want to maintain that structure b cuz it serves ur ego haha and even if ur the most enlightenment master u will still not give up ur powers b cuz power corrupted u b cuz corruption is inevitable. and even if u want to be brave and noble the rest of the hierarchy some times even the poor will resist and fight u so u will end up murdering them or them murdering u.

    and all of that is only the beginning now lets move on to y the illusion that moves ppl exists to begin with or in other words y ppl submit to the hierarchy in the first place. and here i think there r two components desire and programming. programming is basically the ideas u have and all the things u believe in and how u view ur self and the world around u. desire is a lack of fulfilment and once it is fulfilled the only thing that remains is the programming. one question that comes to mind is that can desire ever be completely fulfilled? i would say no. there can only be windows of fulfilment here and there and then a sense of lack will grow back again. but it can be diminished to the lowest levels ie necessary physiological desires for survival and security. now imagine that u and every other human being can have all ur desires fulfilled constantly and without lag u will still have the old programming and patterns that u cant get rid of immediately and unless uve done tons of work for decades it is not likely that u will be able to let go of ur patterns addictions etc.. so ur patterns will fight for maintaining the hierarchy. ppl low on the hierarchy will still enjoy moving up and ppl high will still enjoy putting others down so it wont make sense y to even try to get rid of the hierarchy b cuz it serves a certain psychological function that has to be worked through 

    also imagine a world where no one has to do any thing but survive him self and only him self. assume that every one is peaceful and will leave u survive for ur self this will mean the end of life as u know it. no more hollywood no more money no more status no more porn no more government no more any thing. u will have to hunt or grow ur own food and build ur own house u will have to design ur own car etc u see where this is going. human beings will have to reduce their selves to animals to achieve the utopian society. other wise it will remain just an ideal dream.

    conclusion its literally impossible to end poverty and transcend hierarchical structures so its more practical to do wht u can do to better ur life and be grateful for all the illusions of life

  10. Posted

    this human is me the individual meat bag who is typing

    needs means that its a deep abandoned and repressed desire for me that now it mutated in to a need

    to be loved means to be accepted for who i am unconditionally and not be judged ridiculed or rejected some thing that i never had and now i hate every one all people are evil

  12. Posted

    2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    It's a natural part of China's development.

    Racism and genocide can only be overcome by growing through it.

    leo i love u and i understand the radical acceptance u have but is it really necessary to go through every trap for us to learn it? isnt it possible to learn by learning? one of ur best videos is called learning = observation so thats one way to learn about the world without committing every single mistake and crime there is. lets be real here do we really have to be so cruel? we shouldnt blame every thing on lack of development some times i feel its more about stubbornness.

  13. Posted · Edited by The observer

    apparently hes busy r now driving his green lamborghini or something with his 4 wifes b cuz ? is not ? flying out to lala land oh yes kiddo watch out cuz u wont know when the apocalypse comes and jed please hand me the zen stick i wanna ❤️ and ? yes kiddo its not a joke ?

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    5 minutes ago, Victor Mgazi said:

    Yes, that could also be it. Because every time I engage with reality such as this feeling then and only then does it subside.

    then perhaps theres a subtle judgement about these things in ur mind. i would investigate there b cuz that judgement could become an obstacle on ur integration process. make sure u love every thing and not demonise any part of urself. journaling can help too. gd luck mr. Victor 

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    idk i watched it. the people who r being called out on simply seem like ordinary chimps that arent aware of their devilry. the whole thing seems more like self deception than a conspiracy. also the fact that u quoted "two years of blood, sweat, and tears by a team of woke professionals. It’s been independently produced and funded and is available on many different platforms for free for anyone to watch" makes it sound pretty much like brainwashing and using a mind manipulating technique to add more credibility to the video. i mean y would it matter to me how much work has been put in to this? the truth is irrelevant of how much effort is claimed to be put in it. and in fact that makes it even more suspicious to me that its just another way of mind controlling and pushing agendas that the average chimp human uses. it was an interesting watch in deed but still it was a waste of time i would have preferred to watch some leo video instead at least he teaches u how to be critical and gives u tools to go around that unlike this video which teaches u how to reject everything mainstream just b cuz its controlled by a certain group of people. also this conspiracy theory lacks big picture thinking which leo does not. in the end this whole called out on manipulation process will create effects that the "conspirers" cant predict so its kinda pointless to label them as conspirers cuz theyre just ignorant deluded chimps who happen to have power over certain things that most people dont. ill leave it at that even though i have more to say cuz i got tired.

  25. Posted · Edited by The observer

    some times it can be time consuming especially when journaling electronically especially on phone other than that its one of the most effective practices to deeply understand your self and your shadows. i prefer journaling right after meditation as my mind becomes more still and focused and as meditation tends to bring out deeper stuff to the surface

    @Commodent interesting thing that comes to mind is that have you tried journaling about that? i try to initiate curiosity before starting to journal and it always works. this going meta thing could go on to infinity.